Re: ATT Microcell in Austin, TX

2020-02-18 Thread Brandon Martin
On 2/18/20 2:25 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Power goes out and the pole mounted nodes go out eventually. Where "eventually" seems to vary a LOT. I've observed hold up times as long as 8+ hours all the way down to "well, I guess there was a minor power glitch at the nearest power injection point

Re: ATT Microcell in Austin, TX

2020-02-18 Thread Matt Hoppes
This is already how much of the cable networks operate. Power goes out and the pole mounted nodes go out eventually. > On Feb 18, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Constantine A. Murenin > wrote: > >> On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 at 10:10, Darin Steffl wrote: > >> I believe that when this happens, they should

Re: ATT Microcell in Austin, TX

2020-02-18 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 at 10:10, Darin Steffl wrote: > I believe that when this happens, they should proactively block or limit > video and file download/upload traffic as much as possible to make sure > communications like calls and texts can go through with the highest success > rate possible.

Re: ATT Microcell in Austin, TX

2020-02-18 Thread Shane Ronan
Agreed, specifically talking about small/micro cells. Shane On Tue, Feb 18, 2020, 2:11 PM Jared Mauch wrote: > On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 02:05:15PM -0500, Shane Ronan wrote: > > I can tell you that most carriers have neither type, at least in the US. > > Most towers can survive a

Re: ATT Microcell in Austin, TX

2020-02-18 Thread Jared Mauch
On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 02:05:15PM -0500, Shane Ronan wrote: > I can tell you that most carriers have neither type, at least in the US. Most towers can survive a brown/blackout lasting a few minutes (usually enough to last the safety system cycling and the fuses blowing on a grounded

Re: ATT Microcell in Austin, TX

2020-02-18 Thread Shane Ronan
I can tell you that most carriers have neither type, at least in the US. Shane On Tue, Feb 18, 2020, 1:18 PM Stephen Satchell wrote: > There is power backup and then there is power backup. > > The former is a small power pack (batteries, supercapacitors, whatever) > that will allow the

Re: ATT Microcell in Austin, TX

2020-02-18 Thread Stephen Satchell
There is power backup and then there is power backup. The former is a small power pack (batteries, supercapacitors, whatever) that will allow the microcell to weather a short blackout or brownout. We are talking seconds, to bridge switching transits. To be useful in a deployment, such a

Re: ATT Microcell in Austin, TX

2020-02-18 Thread Ben Cannon
Most of the small or micro cells are there to add data capacity not necessary device count, which are two different things. However, where they are added to augment device count we will have problems if they are not backed up. As the tech shrinks and battery tech improves this will become

Re: ATT Microcell in Austin, TX

2020-02-18 Thread sronan
The feasibility of back hauling power from a central location is almost zero. Conduit can be direct buried and then fiber shot through it, this would be almost impossible with DC power cables. Keep in mind that WPS already provides priority to “priority” traffic. Shane Sent from my iPhone >

Re: ATT Microcell in Austin, TX

2020-02-18 Thread Tom Beecher
Net neutrality!* *Except if someone drives through a power pole. On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 11:11 AM Darin Steffl wrote: > Matt, > > You're correct that if most of these small cells goes offline during a > power outage, the remaining macro cells would not be able to handle the > load well. > >

Re: ATT Microcell in Austin, TX

2020-02-18 Thread Darin Steffl
Matt, You're correct that if most of these small cells goes offline during a power outage, the remaining macro cells would not be able to handle the load well. Data would be nearly useless and phone/texts may be sporadic. I believe that when this happens, they should proactively block or limit

Re: ATT Microcell in Austin, TX

2020-02-18 Thread Matt Erculiani
It will be interesting to see how this plays out as reliance on these small cells for capacity grows. I'd imagine demand for cellular bandwidth goes up during a power outage and not down. Is it reasonable to think that there could be a situation where cell capacity is not available during a time

Re: ATT Microcell in Austin, TX

2020-02-16 Thread Shane Ronan
This is a small cell. They are very common across all of the carriers. It is NOT intended to provide primary coverage for the area. It IS intended to provide additional capacity to the immediate area. Think of the large cell towers as providing blanket coverage, while small cells provide hot

Re: ATT Microcell in Austin, TX

2020-02-16 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Sun, 16 Feb 2020 16:57:24 -0600, Chris Boyd said: > Since people on here like to talk about the generatorn run time on cell > towers, I thought y’all might like to see an ATT microcell in downtown > Austin, > TX. No apparent generator or battery on it. > https://imgur.com/a/RY9Tg7h