Re: Assigning /64 but using /127 (was Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too)

2017-12-28 Thread Owen DeLong

> On Dec 28, 2017, at 10:34 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.pa...@consulintel.es> 
> wrote:
> 
> This may be useful:
> 
> https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-690/
> 
> Regards,
> Jordi
> 
> -Mensaje original-
> De: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> en nombre de Octavio Alvarez 
> <octalna...@alvarezp.org>
> Responder a: <octalna...@alvarezp.org>
> Fecha: jueves, 28 de diciembre de 2017, 19:31
> Para: Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com>
> CC: <nanog@nanog.org>
> Asunto: Re: Assigning /64 but using /127 (was Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too)
> 
>On 12/28/2017 11:39 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2017, at 09:23 , Octavio Alvarez <octalna...@alvarezp.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 12/20/2017 12:23 PM, Mike wrote:
>>>> On 12/17/2017 08:31 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>>>> Call this the 'shavings', in IPv4 for example, when you assign a P2P
>>>> link with a /30, you are using 2 and wasting 2 addresses. But in IPv6,
>>>> due to ping-pong and just so many technical manuals and other advices,
>>>> you are told to "just use a /64' for your point to points.
>>> 
>>> Isn't it a /127 nowadays, per RFC 6547 and RFC 6164? I guess the
>>> exception would be if a router does not support it.
>>> 
>> Best practice used most places is to assign a /64 and put a /127 on the 
>> interfaces.
>> 
> 
>Thanks for the info. Is this documented somewhere? Is there a
>disadvantage in letting many P2P links use different /127 networks
>within the same /64?

Primarily human factors.

Owen

> 
>Best regards,
>Octavio.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Assigning /64 but using /127 (was Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too)

2017-12-28 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
This may be useful:

https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-690/

Regards,
Jordi

-Mensaje original-
De: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> en nombre de Octavio Alvarez 
<octalna...@alvarezp.org>
Responder a: <octalna...@alvarezp.org>
Fecha: jueves, 28 de diciembre de 2017, 19:31
Para: Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com>
CC: <nanog@nanog.org>
Asunto: Re: Assigning /64 but using /127 (was Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too)

On 12/28/2017 11:39 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2017, at 09:23 , Octavio Alvarez <octalna...@alvarezp.org> 
wrote:
>>
>> On 12/20/2017 12:23 PM, Mike wrote:
>>> On 12/17/2017 08:31 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>>> Call this the 'shavings', in IPv4 for example, when you assign a P2P
>>> link with a /30, you are using 2 and wasting 2 addresses. But in IPv6,
>>> due to ping-pong and just so many technical manuals and other advices,
>>> you are told to "just use a /64' for your point to points.
>>
>> Isn't it a /127 nowadays, per RFC 6547 and RFC 6164? I guess the
>> exception would be if a router does not support it.
>>
> Best practice used most places is to assign a /64 and put a /127 on the 
interfaces.
> 

Thanks for the info. Is this documented somewhere? Is there a
disadvantage in letting many P2P links use different /127 networks
within the same /64?

Best regards,
Octavio.




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Re: Assigning /64 but using /127 (was Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too)

2017-12-28 Thread Octavio Alvarez
On 12/28/2017 11:39 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2017, at 09:23 , Octavio Alvarez  wrote:
>>
>> On 12/20/2017 12:23 PM, Mike wrote:
>>> On 12/17/2017 08:31 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>>> Call this the 'shavings', in IPv4 for example, when you assign a P2P
>>> link with a /30, you are using 2 and wasting 2 addresses. But in IPv6,
>>> due to ping-pong and just so many technical manuals and other advices,
>>> you are told to "just use a /64' for your point to points.
>>
>> Isn't it a /127 nowadays, per RFC 6547 and RFC 6164? I guess the
>> exception would be if a router does not support it.
>>
> Best practice used most places is to assign a /64 and put a /127 on the 
> interfaces.
> 

Thanks for the info. Is this documented somewhere? Is there a
disadvantage in letting many P2P links use different /127 networks
within the same /64?

Best regards,
Octavio.