On Nov 25, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Bill Woodcock wo...@pch.net wrote:
On Nov 25, 2014, at 10:47 AM, Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com wrote:
I know typically peering exchanges are made for peering traffic between
providers, but can you buy IP transit from a provider on an exchange? An
Yes, we could of course pay for some space and power with a shared hosting
provider, but buying a full rack and power for a single router seems silly.
The ideal person to buy the small amount of space and power from would be
the transport provider that is transporting us to Equinix, but in most
turned up - significant. I'd say that we now get 2/3 of
our inbound by peering, the rest via transit. Netflix is the obvious
reason...
- Original Message ---
Subject: Re: Buying IP Bandwidth Across a Peering Exchange
From: Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 30 Nov
Having run an exchange, I can speak to a couple of points.
1.An exchange is only as good as any other provider. If they don¹t have a
redundant design then you have more room for failure. Same can be said
about good staff behind it. If they know what they are doing and keep it
simple, then it
the
one you registered with them (Equnix filters the MAC, but doesn't apply a
60 minute port shut down penalty if you leak like TorIX does).
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Subject: Re: Buying IP Bandwidth Across a Peering Exchange
From: Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014
Hi Clayton,
Putting on my TorIX hat, I'll address what you've brought up:
1. We implemented port security because MAC ACL's were not effectively
blocking certain types of bad traffic, which was a problem with the
hardware in place at the time. As you are certainly aware, getting
vendors to
On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 09:51:47 PM Colton Conor
wrote:
Are exchanges really that unreliable compared to a
traditional cross connect?
Not necessarily.
It's just that when money is changing hands, folk tend to
find (passive) x-connects within the data centre to be far
more reliable
On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:34:14 PM Eric Van Tol
wrote:
It's been a while since I've checked the Equinix Customer
Agreement and Policies documents, but I know at one time
they required a physical presence in the in the IDC for
an Exchange cross-connect. This may have changed in the
On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 11:03:16 PM Bob Evans wrote:
I agree with Bill...going it on the cheap is risky. DOn't
consider it for primary. It may be good for backup. I
have sold small amounts of transit to non-ISP companies
on exchanges (100-200 meg). It's a good extra backup for
ISPs, if
Hi,
I’m pretty sure IX Reach can take you into an Equinix exchange, so it is
probably possible that they allow this kind of stuff to happen.
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On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 02:42:39 PM Ammar Zuberi
wrote:
I’m pretty sure IX Reach can take you into an Equinix
exchange, so it is probably possible that they allow
this kind of stuff to happen.
I meant in terms of a reseller model between the exchange
point and preferred service
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:34:14 -0500, Eric Van Tol said:
but I know at one time they required a physical presence in the in the IDC
for an Exchange cross-connect.
At the risk of being snarky, if somebody doesn't have a presence where do
you connect the other end of the cross-connect cable? :)
Well, we would have a BGP router in another town. Then get a wave from a
transport provider from the other town to the town that equinix or the
peering exchange was located at. The cross connect would go from the
transport providers Z location to the port on the exchange. I have
confirmed that
peering exchange was located at. The cross connect would go from the
transport providers Z location to the port on the exchange. I have
In which case the cross connect is between the target and Z, who *has*
a physical presence at the exchange
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Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com writes:
Some might ask why not get a cross connect to the provider. It is cheaper
to buy an port on the exchange (which includes the cross connect to the
exchange) than buy multiple cross connects. Plus we are planning on getting
a wave to the exchange,
On 11/25/14, 1:47 PM, Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com wrote:
I know typically peering exchanges are made for peering traffic between
providers, but can you buy IP transit from a provider on an exchange? An
example, buy a 10G port on an exchange, peer 5Gbps of traffic with
multiple
providers
On 25/11/2014 18:47, Colton Conor wrote:
Is this possible?
it depends. Some transit providers will decline to do this because it can
impact on their margin. Most IXPs don't have a problem with it, but some
do - although it's not clear how they can tell which packets are transit
and which are
On Nov 25, 2014, at 10:47 AM, Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com wrote:
I know typically peering exchanges are made for peering traffic between
providers, but can you buy IP transit from a provider on an exchange? An
example, buy a 10G port on an exchange, peer 5Gbps of traffic with multiple
I know a couple networks that offer to sell transit over exchanges that
permit it, but require that you take a private VLAN on the exchange.
Some exchanges offer private VLANs, others don't.
Regards,
Chris Rogers
+1.302.357.3696 x2110
http://inerail.net/
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Nick
: Buying IP Bandwidth Across a Peering Exchange
I know a couple networks that offer to sell transit over exchanges that permit
it, but require that you take a private VLAN on the exchange.
Some exchanges offer private VLANs, others don't.
Regards,
Chris Rogers
+1.302.357.3696 x2110
http://inerail.net/
The exchange in question is Equinix. Their sales team is leading me
to believe there are multiple exchange products. One where you can peer
with providers (Google, Netflix for example) and then one where you can
create virtual private layer 2 vlans between providers. Then there is also
the
I agree with Bill...going it on the cheap is risky. DOn't consider it for
primary. It may be good for backup. I have sold small amounts of transit
to non-ISP companies on exchanges (100-200 meg). It's a good extra backup
for ISPs, if you setup your local pref, MED and then prepend your AS an
extra
: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 2:51:47 PM
Subject: Re: Buying IP Bandwidth Across a Peering Exchange
The exchange in question is Equinix. Their sales team is leading me
to believe there are multiple exchange products. One where you can peer
with providers (Google, Netflix for example) and then one
Hi Conor,
I know this is possible since Hurricane Electric does it for IPv6 transit,
however, I'm not sure if it violates any exchange rules or if it's even a good
idea.
On 25 Nov 2014, at 10:47 pm, Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com wrote:
I know typically peering exchanges are made for
Plus we are planning on getting
a wave to the exchange, and not having any physical routers or switches at
the datacenter where the exchange/wave terminates at. Is this possible?
It's been a while since I've checked the Equinix Customer Agreement and
Policies documents, but I know at one time
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Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 2:51:47 PM
Subject: Re: Buying IP Bandwidth Across a Peering Exchange
The exchange in question is Equinix. Their sales team is leading me
to believe there are multiple exchange products. One where you can peer
Be careful joining an IX just to peer with Google (AS15169) and a few
others...especially if your exchange doesn’t have route servers established.
Some companies, such as NetFlix, have a truly open peering policy; establishing
a bilateral BGP session with them is super-straightforward.
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