RE: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

2015-04-16 Thread frnkblk
My second educated guess is that those initial (BPON) ONTs only supported
FastE client interface(s), and that Verizon's new (GPON) ONTs support GigE
client interfaces.

Frank

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Huff
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 10:11 AM
To: Joel Esler (jesler); Joe Klein
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

The earlier generation of ONT has 100MB Ethernet and MOCA. If you upgrade to
Quantum and order speeds  100MB you'll need an ONT with gig-E and switch
from MOCA to wired Ethernet. The MOCA standard specifies up to 175MB, but I
don't think MOCA vendors have made any adapters  100MB.




Matthew Huff | 1 Manhattanville Rd
Director of Operations   | Purchase, NY 10577
OTA Management LLC   | Phone: 914-460-4039
aim: matthewbhuff    | Fax:   914-694-5669

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Joel Esler
(jesler)
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 7:17 AM
To: Joe Klein
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

I don't believe Quantum has any changes relative to the external of the
house.  Fios has been capable of pushing those speeds with the old modem
for years.  The difference between the old modem and the new one is that the
wireless is 802.11n whereas the old one was only capable of g.

--
Joel Esler
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 13, 2015, at 11:20 PM, Joe Klein
jskl...@gmail.commailto:jskl...@gmail.com wrote:

Was in a meeting over 4 years ago, where the people from Verizon were
claiming they would be rolling out IPv6 for FIOS in the following years.
Still waiting.

Can anyone confirm or deny that Verizon FIOS requires an upgrade to the ONT
and router for its FiOS Quantum service in order to get IPv6?

Joe Klein
Inveniam viam aut faciam

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Matt Palmer
mpal...@hezmatt.orgmailto:mpal...@hezmatt.org wrote:

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:42:07PM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote:
On Apr 13, 2015, at 9:02 PM, Christopher Morrow 
morrowc.li...@gmail.commailto:morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Will Dean
w...@willscorner.netmailto:w...@willscorner.net
wrote:
Reddit started using CloudFlare late last year, so they should able to
serve content up over v6.

nice!

Sorry to rain on your parade:

dhcp-7f01:~ jared% host -t  www.reddit.comhttp://www.reddit.com.
www.reddit.comhttp://www.reddit.com has no  record

should be able to serve != are serving.

- Matt

--
If you are a trauma surgeon and someone dies on your table, [...] everyone
would know you did your best.  When someone does something truly stupid
with their system and it dies and you can't resuscitate it, you must be
incompetent or an idiot.  -- Julian Macassey, in the Monastery






RE: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

2015-04-16 Thread frnkblk
It's my educated guess that much of Verizon's initially FTTH deployment used
BPON, and that access gear didn't (and probably will never) support IPv6.
So to get IPv6 they need to move the customer to a GPON-enabled access
shelf, which apparently requires a new ONT because their initial ONTs were
BPON only.

Frank

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Justin M. Streiner
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 10:40 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

On Mon, 13 Apr 2015, Stephen Frost wrote:

 I'm still wondering when they're going to teach the Verizon FIOS people
 about the IPv6 goodness...

I've been barking up that three for nearly the past three years.  No 
definite answers thus far, other than the ONTs deployed in many customer 
locations might make IPv6 deployment a bit of a PITA, regardless of which 
model router you have on site.

Trying to get good answers on this from VZ sales/marketing contacts 
through $dayjob has not gotten much in the way of good answers either.

I have a v6 tunnel through Hurricane Electric that works very well, but it 
would be nice to go native.

jms




Re: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

2015-04-14 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb

 On 14 Apr 2015, at 01:59 , Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote:
 
 For those wondering, nearly 62% of VZ Wireless traffic is IPv6.

to a few select websites (not in term of overall traffic).

 http://www.worldipv6launch.org/measurements/



Re: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

2015-04-14 Thread Joel Esler (jesler)
So am I correct in assuming that unless you go 100Mb, and other than the N 
router to replace the G router, there isn’t anything beneficial?

--
Joel Esler
Open Source Manager
Threat Intelligence Team Lead
Talos Group


I reserve the right to be wrong


On Apr 14, 2015, at 11:11 AM, Matthew Huff mh...@ox.commailto:mh...@ox.com 
wrote:

The earlier generation of ONT has 100MB Ethernet and MOCA. If you upgrade to 
Quantum and order speeds  100MB you'll need an ONT with gig-E and switch from 
MOCA to wired Ethernet. The MOCA standard specifies up to 175MB, but I don't 
think MOCA vendors have made any adapters  100MB.




Matthew Huff | 1 Manhattanville Rd
Director of Operations   | Purchase, NY 10577
OTA Management LLC   | Phone: 914-460-4039
aim: matthewbhuff| Fax:   914-694-5669

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Joel Esler (jesler)
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 7:17 AM
To: Joe Klein
Cc: nanog@nanog.orgmailto:nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

I don't believe Quantum has any changes relative to the external of the house.  
Fios has been capable of pushing those speeds with the old modem for years.  
The difference between the old modem and the new one is that the wireless is 
802.11n whereas the old one was only capable of g.

--
Joel Esler
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 13, 2015, at 11:20 PM, Joe Klein 
jskl...@gmail.commailto:jskl...@gmail.commailto:jskl...@gmail.com wrote:

Was in a meeting over 4 years ago, where the people from Verizon were
claiming they would be rolling out IPv6 for FIOS in the following years.
Still waiting.

Can anyone confirm or deny that Verizon FIOS requires an upgrade to the ONT
and router for its FiOS Quantum service in order to get IPv6?

Joe Klein
Inveniam viam aut faciam

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Matt Palmer 
mpal...@hezmatt.orgmailto:mpal...@hezmatt.orgmailto:mpal...@hezmatt.org 
wrote:

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:42:07PM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote:
On Apr 13, 2015, at 9:02 PM, Christopher Morrow 
morrowc.li...@gmail.commailto:morrowc.li...@gmail.commailto:morrowc.li...@gmail.com
 wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Will Dean 
w...@willscorner.netmailto:w...@willscorner.netmailto:w...@willscorner.net
wrote:
Reddit started using CloudFlare late last year, so they should able to
serve content up over v6.

nice!

Sorry to rain on your parade:

dhcp-7f01:~ jared% host -t  
www.reddit.comhttp://www.reddit.comhttp://www.reddit.com.
www.reddit.comhttp://www.reddit.comhttp://www.reddit.com has no  record

should be able to serve != are serving.

- Matt

--
If you are a trauma surgeon and someone dies on your table, [...] everyone
would know you did your best.  When someone does something truly stupid
with their system and it dies and you can't resuscitate it, you must be
incompetent or an idiot.  -- Julian Macassey, in the Monastery





RE: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

2015-04-14 Thread Matthew Huff
The earlier generation of ONT has 100MB Ethernet and MOCA. If you upgrade to 
Quantum and order speeds  100MB you'll need an ONT with gig-E and switch from 
MOCA to wired Ethernet. The MOCA standard specifies up to 175MB, but I don't 
think MOCA vendors have made any adapters  100MB.




Matthew Huff | 1 Manhattanville Rd
Director of Operations   | Purchase, NY 10577
OTA Management LLC   | Phone: 914-460-4039
aim: matthewbhuff    | Fax:   914-694-5669

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Joel Esler (jesler)
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 7:17 AM
To: Joe Klein
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

I don't believe Quantum has any changes relative to the external of the house.  
Fios has been capable of pushing those speeds with the old modem for years.  
The difference between the old modem and the new one is that the wireless is 
802.11n whereas the old one was only capable of g.

--
Joel Esler
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 13, 2015, at 11:20 PM, Joe Klein 
jskl...@gmail.commailto:jskl...@gmail.com wrote:

Was in a meeting over 4 years ago, where the people from Verizon were
claiming they would be rolling out IPv6 for FIOS in the following years.
Still waiting.

Can anyone confirm or deny that Verizon FIOS requires an upgrade to the ONT
and router for its FiOS Quantum service in order to get IPv6?

Joe Klein
Inveniam viam aut faciam

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Matt Palmer 
mpal...@hezmatt.orgmailto:mpal...@hezmatt.org wrote:

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:42:07PM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote:
On Apr 13, 2015, at 9:02 PM, Christopher Morrow 
morrowc.li...@gmail.commailto:morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Will Dean 
w...@willscorner.netmailto:w...@willscorner.net
wrote:
Reddit started using CloudFlare late last year, so they should able to
serve content up over v6.

nice!

Sorry to rain on your parade:

dhcp-7f01:~ jared% host -t  www.reddit.comhttp://www.reddit.com.
www.reddit.comhttp://www.reddit.com has no  record

should be able to serve != are serving.

- Matt

--
If you are a trauma surgeon and someone dies on your table, [...] everyone
would know you did your best.  When someone does something truly stupid
with their system and it dies and you can't resuscitate it, you must be
incompetent or an idiot.  -- Julian Macassey, in the Monastery




Re: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

2015-04-14 Thread Joel Esler (jesler)
I don't believe Quantum has any changes relative to the external of the house.  
Fios has been capable of pushing those speeds with the old modem for years.  
The difference between the old modem and the new one is that the wireless is 
802.11n whereas the old one was only capable of g.

--
Joel Esler
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 13, 2015, at 11:20 PM, Joe Klein 
jskl...@gmail.commailto:jskl...@gmail.com wrote:

Was in a meeting over 4 years ago, where the people from Verizon were
claiming they would be rolling out IPv6 for FIOS in the following years.
Still waiting.

Can anyone confirm or deny that Verizon FIOS requires an upgrade to the ONT
and router for its FiOS Quantum service in order to get IPv6?

Joe Klein
Inveniam viam aut faciam

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Matt Palmer 
mpal...@hezmatt.orgmailto:mpal...@hezmatt.org wrote:

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:42:07PM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote:
On Apr 13, 2015, at 9:02 PM, Christopher Morrow 
morrowc.li...@gmail.commailto:morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Will Dean 
w...@willscorner.netmailto:w...@willscorner.net
wrote:
Reddit started using CloudFlare late last year, so they should able to
serve content up over v6.

nice!

Sorry to rain on your parade:

dhcp-7f01:~ jared% host -t  www.reddit.comhttp://www.reddit.com.
www.reddit.comhttp://www.reddit.com has no  record

should be able to serve != are serving.

- Matt

--
If you are a trauma surgeon and someone dies on your table, [...] everyone
would know you did your best.  When someone does something truly stupid
with their system and it dies and you can't resuscitate it, you must be
incompetent or an idiot.  -- Julian Macassey, in the Monastery




RE: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

2015-04-14 Thread Matthew Huff
It's much smaller J

Other than that, I don't know of anything else. I don't use their router anyway.



Matthew Huff | 1 Manhattanville Rd
Director of Operations   | Purchase, NY 10577
OTA Management LLC   | Phone: 914-460-4039
aim: matthewbhuff| Fax:   914-694-5669

From: Joel Esler (jesler) [mailto:jes...@cisco.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 11:38 AM
To: Matthew Huff
Cc: Joe Klein; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

So am I correct in assuming that unless you go 100Mb, and other than the N 
router to replace the G router, there isn't anything beneficial?

--
Joel Esler
Open Source Manager
Threat Intelligence Team Lead
Talos Group


I reserve the right to be wrong


On Apr 14, 2015, at 11:11 AM, Matthew Huff mh...@ox.commailto:mh...@ox.com 
wrote:

The earlier generation of ONT has 100MB Ethernet and MOCA. If you upgrade to 
Quantum and order speeds  100MB you'll need an ONT with gig-E and switch from 
MOCA to wired Ethernet. The MOCA standard specifies up to 175MB, but I don't 
think MOCA vendors have made any adapters  100MB.




Matthew Huff | 1 Manhattanville Rd
Director of Operations   | Purchase, NY 10577
OTA Management LLC   | Phone: 914-460-4039
aim: matthewbhuff| Fax:   914-694-5669

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Joel Esler (jesler)
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 7:17 AM
To: Joe Klein
Cc: nanog@nanog.orgmailto:nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

I don't believe Quantum has any changes relative to the external of the house.  
Fios has been capable of pushing those speeds with the old modem for years.  
The difference between the old modem and the new one is that the wireless is 
802.11n whereas the old one was only capable of g.

--
Joel Esler
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 13, 2015, at 11:20 PM, Joe Klein 
jskl...@gmail.commailto:jskl...@gmail.commailto:jskl...@gmail.com wrote:

Was in a meeting over 4 years ago, where the people from Verizon were
claiming they would be rolling out IPv6 for FIOS in the following years.
Still waiting.

Can anyone confirm or deny that Verizon FIOS requires an upgrade to the ONT
and router for its FiOS Quantum service in order to get IPv6?

Joe Klein
Inveniam viam aut faciam

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Matt Palmer 
mpal...@hezmatt.orgmailto:mpal...@hezmatt.orgmailto:mpal...@hezmatt.org 
wrote:

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:42:07PM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote:
On Apr 13, 2015, at 9:02 PM, Christopher Morrow 
morrowc.li...@gmail.commailto:morrowc.li...@gmail.commailto:morrowc.li...@gmail.com
 wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Will Dean 
w...@willscorner.netmailto:w...@willscorner.netmailto:w...@willscorner.net
wrote:
Reddit started using CloudFlare late last year, so they should able to
serve content up over v6.

nice!

Sorry to rain on your parade:

dhcp-7f01:~ jared% host -t  
www.reddit.comhttp://www.reddit.comhttp://www.reddit.com.
www.reddit.comhttp://www.reddit.comhttp://www.reddit.com has no  record

should be able to serve != are serving.

- Matt

--
If you are a trauma surgeon and someone dies on your table, [...] everyone
would know you did your best.  When someone does something truly stupid
with their system and it dies and you can't resuscitate it, you must be
incompetent or an idiot.  -- Julian Macassey, in the Monastery




Re: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

2015-04-13 Thread James Downs

 On Apr 13, 2015, at 14:20, Ca By cb.li...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Amazon, Twitter, Ebay, and Reddit -- please consider this your
 personal invitation to introduce IPv6 to your service.

Skype doesn’t appear to have any IPv6 infrastructure.

-j

Re: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

2015-04-13 Thread Owen DeLong
Now if only T-Mobile would launch IPv6 for I-Devices!!

No, blaming Apple for not implementing your chosen transition mechanism is not 
a valid excuse.

Owen

 On Apr 13, 2015, at 2:20 PM, Ca By cb.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Good news (that i have not personally verified)  !
 
 Verizon, T-Mobile, Sprint, and ATT all launched the Samsung Galaxy S6 with
 IPv6 on by default.
 
 Given the growth and importance of mobile to Internet, it is great to see
 this progress from the mobile carriers.
 
 Just for those keeping score, of the top 10 Alexa website for the USA,
 these major websites prefer IPv6 or prefer NAT44 / NAT64 from the mobile
 networks
 
 1.  Google -- prefers IPv6
 2.  Facebook -- prefers  IPv6
 3.  Youtube -- prefers  IPv6
 4.  Amazon -- prefers NAT -- :(
 5.  Yahoo!  -- prefers IPv6
 6.  Wikipedia -- prefers IPv6
 7.  Twitter -- prefers NAT -- :(
 8.  Ebay -- prefers NAT -- :(
 9.  Linkedin -- prefers IPv6
 10.  Reddit -- prefers NAT -- :(
 
 Dear Amazon, Twitter, Ebay, and Reddit -- please consider this your
 personal invitation to introduce IPv6 to your service.



Re: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

2015-04-13 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Ca By cb.li...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Amazon, Twitter, Ebay, and Reddit -- please consider this your
 personal invitation to introduce IPv6 to your service.

good news! it's only really 3 places that need update, since reddit is
(still?) an amazon aws customer.


Re: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

2015-04-13 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Ca By cb.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good news (that i have not personally verified)  !

 Verizon

This is not new for VZW, they've been defaulting to IPv6 since my
first Galaxy Nexus (2011).

-Jim P.


Re: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

2015-04-13 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Will Dean w...@willscorner.net wrote:

 Reddit started using CloudFlare late last year, so they should able to
 serve content up over v6.


nice!


Re: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

2015-04-13 Thread Jared Mauch

 On Apr 13, 2015, at 9:02 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Will Dean w...@willscorner.net wrote:
 
 Reddit started using CloudFlare late last year, so they should able to
 serve content up over v6.
 
 
 nice!

Sorry to rain on your parade:

dhcp-7f01:~ jared% host -t  www.reddit.com.
www.reddit.com has no  record




Re: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

2015-04-13 Thread Will Dean
Reddit started using CloudFlare late last year, so they should able to 
serve content up over v6.


http://www.reddit.com/r/blog/comments/2ftv08/hell_its_about_time_reddit_now_supports_fullsite/ckcoww2

(http://www.redditblog.com/2014/09/hell-its-about-time-reddit-now-supports.html)

Christopher Morrow mailto:morrowc.li...@gmail.com
April 13, 2015 at 5:22 PM

good news! it's only really 3 places that need update, since reddit is
(still?) an amazon aws customer.
Ca By mailto:cb.li...@gmail.com
April 13, 2015 at 5:20 PM
Good news (that i have not personally verified) !

Verizon, T-Mobile, Sprint, and ATT all launched the Samsung Galaxy S6 
with

IPv6 on by default.

Given the growth and importance of mobile to Internet, it is great to see
this progress from the mobile carriers.

Just for those keeping score, of the top 10 Alexa website for the USA,
these major websites prefer IPv6 or prefer NAT44 / NAT64 from the mobile
networks

1. Google -- prefers IPv6
2. Facebook -- prefers IPv6
3. Youtube -- prefers IPv6
4. Amazon -- prefers NAT -- :(
5. Yahoo! -- prefers IPv6
6. Wikipedia -- prefers IPv6
7. Twitter -- prefers NAT -- :(
8. Ebay -- prefers NAT -- :(
9. Linkedin -- prefers IPv6
10. Reddit -- prefers NAT -- :(

Dear Amazon, Twitter, Ebay, and Reddit -- please consider this your
personal invitation to introduce IPv6 to your service.


Re: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

2015-04-13 Thread Stephen Frost
* Jared Mauch (ja...@puck.nether.net) wrote:
 For those wondering, nearly 62% of VZ Wireless traffic is IPv6.
 
 http://www.worldipv6launch.org/measurements/

I'm still wondering when they're going to teach the Verizon FIOS people
about the IPv6 goodness...

Thanks,

Stephen


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Re: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

2015-04-13 Thread Matt Palmer
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:42:07PM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote:
  On Apr 13, 2015, at 9:02 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
  On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Will Dean w...@willscorner.net wrote:
  Reddit started using CloudFlare late last year, so they should able to
  serve content up over v6.
  
  nice!
 
 Sorry to rain on your parade:
 
 dhcp-7f01:~ jared% host -t  www.reddit.com.
 www.reddit.com has no  record

should be able to serve != are serving.

- Matt

-- 
If you are a trauma surgeon and someone dies on your table, [...] everyone
would know you did your best.  When someone does something truly stupid
with their system and it dies and you can't resuscitate it, you must be
incompetent or an idiot.  -- Julian Macassey, in the Monastery



Re: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

2015-04-13 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote:

 On Apr 13, 2015, at 9:02 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Will Dean w...@willscorner.net wrote:

 Reddit started using CloudFlare late last year, so they should able to
 serve content up over v6.


 nice!

 Sorry to rain on your parade:

 dhcp-7f01:~ jared% host -t  www.reddit.com.
 www.reddit.com has no  record

I think will meant that because:
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.reddit.com.IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.reddit.com. 300 IN  A   198.41.208.142
www.reddit.com. 300 IN  A   198.41.208.143
...lots more records...

and:
NetRange:   198.41.128.0 - 198.41.255.255
CIDR:   198.41.128.0/17
NetName:CLOUDFLARENET

that 'clearly' reddit could have cloudflare serve the endpoint from an
ipv6 address, and thus populate a  in reddit.com's domain.

maybe it's not that simple.


Re: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

2015-04-13 Thread Jared Mauch

 On Apr 13, 2015, at 9:48 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 that 'clearly' reddit could have cloudflare serve the endpoint from an
 ipv6 address, and thus populate a  in reddit.com's domain.
 
 maybe it's not that simple.

Well, it usually really is but just like automation, ipv6 isn’t something that
many people have broad experiences with, and don’t cut+paste quite as well as
one would hope.  There are also *Way* too many people who memorize IP addresses
out there that have a harder time trying to store 128-bits in their memory vs
32-bits.

They also don’t want to lose track of where that IPv4 packet came from, so don’t
want a reverse proxy doing protocol tcp6 - tcp4 mucking for them.

eg: ATT wireless/mobility could have their proxy connect() to an ipv6 address vs
ipv4 which my phone transits when on their network and the qname returns .
This was my favorite thing when running a transparent proxy on my home network,
it could turn all the traffic from hosts that might not naturally think of doing
modprobe ipv6 and turned them into IPv6 requests.

For those wondering, nearly 62% of VZ Wireless traffic is IPv6.

http://www.worldipv6launch.org/measurements/

- Jared

Re: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

2015-04-13 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Stephen Frost sfr...@snowman.net wrote:


 I'm still wondering when they're going to teach the Verizon FIOS people
 about the IPv6 goodness...

dead horse tools
probably never as they are different operating companies with
different networks and network admins and monetary goals.
/dead horse tools


Re: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

2015-04-13 Thread Finn Herzfeld


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Re: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

2015-04-13 Thread Justin M. Streiner

On Mon, 13 Apr 2015, Stephen Frost wrote:


I'm still wondering when they're going to teach the Verizon FIOS people
about the IPv6 goodness...


I've been barking up that three for nearly the past three years.  No 
definite answers thus far, other than the ONTs deployed in many customer 
locations might make IPv6 deployment a bit of a PITA, regardless of which 
model router you have on site.


Trying to get good answers on this from VZ sales/marketing contacts 
through $dayjob has not gotten much in the way of good answers either.


I have a v6 tunnel through Hurricane Electric that works very well, but it 
would be nice to go native.


jms


Re: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

2015-04-13 Thread Jim Shankland

On 4/13/15 8:17 PM, Joe Klein wrote:

Was in a meeting over 4 years ago, where the people from Verizon were
claiming they would be rolling out IPv6 for FIOS in the following years.
Still waiting.

C
For those of us of a certain age, I'm wondering: what was the year when 
you first heard that the entire Internet was going to be switching over 
to IPv6 Real Soon Now?


I distinctly remember my first time (who ever forgets?). I'm a little 
hazy on the exact year, but I know it started with a 1.


Jim




Re: Galaxy S6 is IPv6 on all US National Mobile carriers

2015-04-13 Thread Joe Klein
Was in a meeting over 4 years ago, where the people from Verizon were
claiming they would be rolling out IPv6 for FIOS in the following years.
Still waiting.

Can anyone confirm or deny that Verizon FIOS requires an upgrade to the ONT
and router for its FiOS Quantum service in order to get IPv6?

Joe Klein
Inveniam viam aut faciam

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Matt Palmer mpal...@hezmatt.org wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:42:07PM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote:
   On Apr 13, 2015, at 9:02 PM, Christopher Morrow 
 morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Will Dean w...@willscorner.net
 wrote:
   Reddit started using CloudFlare late last year, so they should able to
   serve content up over v6.
  
   nice!
 
  Sorry to rain on your parade:
 
  dhcp-7f01:~ jared% host -t  www.reddit.com.
  www.reddit.com has no  record

 should be able to serve != are serving.

 - Matt

 --
 If you are a trauma surgeon and someone dies on your table, [...] everyone
 would know you did your best.  When someone does something truly stupid
 with their system and it dies and you can't resuscitate it, you must be
 incompetent or an idiot.  -- Julian Macassey, in the Monastery