Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-06 Thread joel jaeggli
On 2010-07-03 12:45, Alan Bryant wrote: On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Mikemike-na...@tiedyenetworks.com wrote: Mikrotik is great at lower end stuff where you have ethernet interfaces. Real POS OC-3 however, ain't in it's repertory and would not be what I would choose to route at those

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-05 Thread Jonathon Exley
In terms of FOSS routing platforms, I think Vyatta has a better user interface than Mikrotik. IMHO if the CLI is awkward then there a higher risk of misconfiguration. I haven't used either enough to comment about stability. Jonathon. This email and attachments: are confidential; may be protected

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-05 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.07.05 17:26, Jonathon Exley wrote: In terms of FOSS routing platforms, I think Vyatta has a better user interface than Mikrotik. IMHO if the CLI is awkward then there a higher risk of misconfiguration. I haven't used either enough to comment about stability. ...not that I'd like to

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-04 Thread Butch Evans
On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 19:29 -0700, Mike wrote: Yeah, that's what the brochure says anyways, I have been in the ISP business since early 1993. I have used a LOT of Cisco gear in the past 17 years. I am fully aware of it's functionality and it limits.

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-04 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sat, 3 Jul 2010, Alan Bryant wrote: Does anyone know of a solution to connect a POS OC-3 to a router running Mikrotik's RouterOS? I have searched google extensively with varying phrases and nothing helpful comes out of it. I don't know much about Mikrotik, but there are OC-3 interfaces

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-04 Thread Rubens Kuhl
If your routing platform doesn't have POS OC-3, you can use a converter to map Ethernet services to it and keep using the platform you've been using. You lose a little on efficiency and failure detection, but turning BFD on might help: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Routing/BFD I've worked

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-04 Thread Tim McKee
You can always use a Gig-E - OC3c/STM1 media converter. I've used one from RAD just to provide OC3c access speeds for some over Cisco 75xx routers which don't support POS interfaces. Works great. Tim McKee On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 16:07 -0500, Butch Evans wrote: On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 12:22

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-04 Thread Michael Sokolov
OK, I'll bite and add my 2 Russian kopecks to the Cisco vs. Linux router thread. To make it clear where I'm coming from, I see the networking world from the viewpoint of non-Ethernet WAN interfaces. A world consisting of nothing but Ethernet is too bland and boring for me to live in, and I

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-04 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010, Michael Sokolov wrote: OK, I'll bite and add my 2 Russian kopecks to the Cisco vs. Linux router thread. It's ok. I'll trade you Russian for Australian currency. I don't know which is going to be better in the long run. With non-Ethernet WAN interfaces one really needs an

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-04 Thread Michael Sokolov
Adrian Chadd adr...@creative.net.au wrote: FreeBSD netgraph. It's clean, it's generalised, it's just not very well documented. [...] Have a chat to the FreeBSD community. There's a powerpc port. Shoehorn FreeBSD into it somehow, help tidy up the code to do whateveer you need and start

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 7/3/10 10:43 AM, Alan Bryant wrote: I haven't seen much traffic on this list about Mikrotik or RouterOS, but I thought it was worth a shot as a last ditch effort to get this going. Does anyone know of a solution to connect a POS OC-3 to a router running Mikrotik's RouterOS? I have

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Mike
Alan Bryant wrote: I haven't seen much traffic on this list about Mikrotik or RouterOS, but I thought it was worth a shot as a last ditch effort to get this going. Does anyone know of a solution to connect a POS OC-3 to a router running Mikrotik's RouterOS? I have searched google extensively

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 7/3/10 12:22 PM, Mike wrote: Alan Bryant wrote: I haven't seen much traffic on this list about Mikrotik or RouterOS, but I thought it was worth a shot as a last ditch effort to get this going. Does anyone know of a solution to connect a POS OC-3 to a router running Mikrotik's RouterOS? I

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Alan Bryant
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Mike mike-na...@tiedyenetworks.com wrote: Mikrotik is great at lower end stuff where you have ethernet interfaces. Real POS OC-3 however, ain't in it's repertory and would not be what I would choose to route at those interfaces/speeds. However, if you must

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Christopher Young
a...@gtekcommunications.com Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 14:45:26 To: Mikemike-na...@tiedyenetworks.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Mike mike-na...@tiedyenetworks.com wrote: Mikrotik is great at lower end stuff where you have ethernet interfaces

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Mike
Alan Bryant wrote: I'm just trying to see what options there are and make the decision off of that. If Cisco or Juniper is the only way, then so be it. I just want to be sure. The real issue is that these legacy telco interfaces are just expensive, straight up, and being forced to use

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Butch Evans
On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 12:22 -0700, Mike wrote: Mikrotik is great at lower end stuff where you have ethernet interfaces. Real POS OC-3 however, ain't in it's repertory and would not be what I would choose to route at those interfaces/speeds.

RE: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Scott Berkman
I really wouldn't use the word legacy to describe SONET and OC-3's. -Scott -Original Message- From: Mike [mailto:mike-na...@tiedyenetworks.com] Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 4:11 PM To: Alan Bryant Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection Alan Bryant wrote: I'm

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Majdi S. Abbas
On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 07:32:48PM -0400, Scott Berkman wrote: I really wouldn't use the word legacy to describe SONET and OC-3's. It's around 25 years old (work started in 1985, first standards published in 1988) and we now have a ratified 100G Ethernet standard. Much of it is

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 7/3/2010 17:12, Majdi S. Abbas wrote: On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 07:32:48PM -0400, Scott Berkman wrote: I really wouldn't use the word legacy to describe SONET and OC-3's. It's around 25 years old (work started in 1985, first standards published in 1988) and we now have a ratified 100G

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Alan Bryant
Ok, scenario time. I've found a 7206VXR\NPE-G1 w/ 256MB RAM. It has the 3 onboard GigE ports and a PA-POS-1OC3 card in it that should be fine for our OC-3 connection. We need a total of 5 Ethernet ports, not necessarily all GigE. I found this card, PA-2FE-TX that would give us 2 10/100 ports.

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Chris Gotstein
Do you plan on getting full BGP routes from your upstream? If so, go with 1Gb of ram on the NPE G1. I believe that IOS 12.4.25c is the latest version for the 7200VXR series. It's stable, been running it for quite some time. Depending on what you will be doing with this router, will depend

RE: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Ray Burkholder
I believe that IOS 12.4.25c is the latest version for the 7200VXR series. It's stable, been running it for quite some time. Depending on what you will be doing with this router, will depend on what feature set you'll want. I typically use the Service Provider IOS with IPSEC, 3DES and

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 05:12:14PM -0700, Majdi S. Abbas wrote: On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 07:32:48PM -0400, Scott Berkman wrote: I really wouldn't use the word legacy to describe SONET and OC-3's. It's around 25 years old (work started in 1985, first standards published in 1988) and we

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Chris Gotstein
12.4 Service provider has IPv6 and OSPFv3. On 7/3/2010 8:09 PM, Ray Burkholder wrote: I believe that IOS 12.4.25c is the latest version for the 7200VXR series. It's stable, been running it for quite some time. Depending on what you will be doing with this router, will depend on what feature

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Mike
Butch Evans wrote: More functionality from a Cisco? You MUST be joking. MT (and ImageStream for that matter) can do WAY more than Cisco for a fraction of the price. Both will offer a much better firewall option, infinitely better QOS

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Randy Bush
The 15.0 series is available for the 7200VXR. However, unless I'm missing something, note that the Service Provider version doesn't have OSPFv3 for IPv6. is-is

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 7/3/2010 18:32, Scott Berkman wrote: I really wouldn't use the word legacy to describe SONET and OC-3's. The word legacy is applied to any product that has actually shipped