Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN

[Tim Burke]

I get that. We were in the same boat here in Houston up until getting space at 
Databank HOU2. Since all of the big content networks have presence there, only 
made sense. We were looking at all of the caching options available prior to 
doing that, however… and we’ll likely have to keep our Google stuff until 
either we go to D-FW, or Google comes to Houston.

On Apr 7, 2024, at 13:10, Aaron1  wrote:

 Yeah, to date I haven’t been in a place where peering is a reality, yet.  CDN 
providers sending servers to us has been our best option.

Aaron

On Apr 7, 2024, at 12:30 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:


I suppose that depends on the size (bits and miles) of the network and the cost 
of transport within it. In many areas, space + power + port is cheaper than 
transport.



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From: "Tim Burke" 
To: "Aaron Gould" 
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 10:00:05 PM
Subject: Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN

I have been trying to get _away_ from caching appliances on our network — other 
than Google, we are able to pick up most of the stuff that otherwise would be 
cacheable via private peering; so it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense for us 
to have appliances in the datacenter taking up space, power, and 100G ports, 
and increasing potential attack surface by having devices that we cannot 
control directly connected to edge routers.

> On Apr 4, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Aaron Gould  wrote:
>
> Anyone out there using Netskrt CDN?  I mean, installed in your network for 
> content delivery to your customers.  I understand Netskrt provides caching 
> for some well known online video streaming services... just wondering if 
> there are any network operators that have worked with Netskrt and deployed 
> their caching servers in your networks and what have you thought about it?  
> What Internet uplink savings are you seeing?
>
> Netskrt - https://www.netskrt.io/
>
>
> --
> -Aaron
>

Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN

[Aaron1]

Yeah, to date I haven’t been in a place where peering is a reality, yet.  CDN providers sending servers to us has been our best option.  AaronOn Apr 7, 2024, at 12:30 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:I suppose that depends on the size (bits and miles) of the network and the cost of transport within it. In many areas, space + power + port is cheaper than transport.-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe Brothers WISPFrom: "Tim Burke" To: "Aaron Gould" Cc: nanog@nanog.orgSent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 10:00:05 PMSubject: Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDNI have been trying to get _away_ from caching appliances on our network — other than Google, we are able to pick up most of the stuff that otherwise would be cacheable via private peering; so it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense for us to have appliances in the datacenter taking up space, power, and 100G ports, and increasing potential attack surface by having devices that we cannot control directly connected to edge routers.> On Apr 4, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Aaron Gould  wrote:> > Anyone out there using Netskrt CDN?  I mean, installed in your network for content delivery to your customers.  I understand Netskrt provides caching for some well known online video streaming services... just wondering if there are any network operators that have worked with Netskrt and deployed their caching servers in your networks and what have you thought about it?  What Internet uplink savings are you seeing?> > Netskrt - https://www.netskrt.io/> > > -- > -Aaron> 

Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN

[Mike Hammett]

I suppose that depends on the size (bits and miles) of the network and the cost 
of transport within it. In many areas, space + power + port is cheaper than 
transport. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

- Original Message -

From: "Tim Burke"  
To: "Aaron Gould"  
Cc: nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 10:00:05 PM 
Subject: Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN 

I have been trying to get _away_ from caching appliances on our network — other 
than Google, we are able to pick up most of the stuff that otherwise would be 
cacheable via private peering; so it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense for us 
to have appliances in the datacenter taking up space, power, and 100G ports, 
and increasing potential attack surface by having devices that we cannot 
control directly connected to edge routers. 

> On Apr 4, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Aaron Gould  wrote: 
> 
> Anyone out there using Netskrt CDN? I mean, installed in your network for 
> content delivery to your customers. I understand Netskrt provides caching for 
> some well known online video streaming services... just wondering if there 
> are any network operators that have worked with Netskrt and deployed their 
> caching servers in your networks and what have you thought about it? What 
> Internet uplink savings are you seeing? 
> 
> Netskrt - https://www.netskrt.io/ 
> 
> 
> -- 
> -Aaron 
> 

Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN

[Bryan Holloway]

Agreed ... it generally doesn't make sense to install caches where the 
content is just a few racks over.


But if you have a network that serves smaller population centers where 
CDNs are sparse or non-existent, then it gets the content closer to the 
eyeballs and saves considerably on transport bandwidth back to 
"civilization."



On 4/7/24 05:00, Tim Burke wrote:

I have been trying to get _away_ from caching appliances on our network — other 
than Google, we are able to pick up most of the stuff that otherwise would be 
cacheable via private peering; so it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense for us 
to have appliances in the datacenter taking up space, power, and 100G ports, 
and increasing potential attack surface by having devices that we cannot 
control directly connected to edge routers.


On Apr 4, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Aaron Gould  wrote:

Anyone out there using Netskrt CDN?  I mean, installed in your network for 
content delivery to your customers.  I understand Netskrt provides caching for 
some well known online video streaming services... just wondering if there are 
any network operators that have worked with Netskrt and deployed their caching 
servers in your networks and what have you thought about it?  What Internet 
uplink savings are you seeing?

Netskrt - https://www.netskrt.io/


--
-Aaron

Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN

[Tim Burke]

I have been trying to get _away_ from caching appliances on our network — other 
than Google, we are able to pick up most of the stuff that otherwise would be 
cacheable via private peering; so it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense for us 
to have appliances in the datacenter taking up space, power, and 100G ports, 
and increasing potential attack surface by having devices that we cannot 
control directly connected to edge routers.

> On Apr 4, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Aaron Gould  wrote:
> 
> Anyone out there using Netskrt CDN?  I mean, installed in your network for 
> content delivery to your customers.  I understand Netskrt provides caching 
> for some well known online video streaming services... just wondering if 
> there are any network operators that have worked with Netskrt and deployed 
> their caching servers in your networks and what have you thought about it?  
> What Internet uplink savings are you seeing?
> 
> Netskrt - https://www.netskrt.io/
> 
> 
> -- 
> -Aaron
> 

RE: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN

[Dennis Burgess via NANOG]

They are not a CDN themselves, they partner with CDNs etc, and focusing on live 
video streams.  For FREE, you will peer with their device and they will send 
you one prefix.  That prefix will be used by CDNs if they have provisioned your 
IPs with NetSkrt.  Live streaming video will be grabbed from Amazon and 
delvered to the NetSkrt appliance once, and then all other streams within your 
netblock will be directed to that single IP on the NetSkrt device, therefore, 
you receive one stream from the internet, and the rest of the network will get 
that same stream from that box.

Again, I have several customers doing this, seeing that its FREE, all you have 
to do is give them information on the /30 that you will assign it, your BGP 
peering information and that’s about it.  Very simple.  Honestly, unless you 
have something that will deliver that transit, its really a no brainer to just 
install it and let it run.  As more services opt to use them, they will have 
more fill time as well though…

Dennis

From: NANOG  On Behalf Of 
Aaron Gould
Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2024 6:01 PM
To: John Stitt ; Eric Dugas 
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN


Thanks ... that svta caching sounds interesting.  i watched the presentation, 
but don't understand how it's used by ISP's that want to benefit from it.

-Aaron
On 4/4/2024 5:14 PM, John Stitt wrote:
The website says they are part of the Streaming Video Technology Alliance.

I wonder if this is a prepackaged Open Cache box.

https://opencaching.svta.org/

We also don’t appear to have had any traffic from them.  Not much on the 
peeringdb for the USA ASN either.

BGP.tools shows they have upstreams with each ASN, and are on Ohio IX with 
AS53471, but not really any peers anywhere.  Looks like Cogent and Zayo for 
upstreams and only peer I see is AS1239 (Sprint Wireline (Cogent))

John Stitt

From: NANOG 
<mailto:nanog-bounces+jstitt=hop-electric@nanog.org>
 On Behalf Of Aaron Gould
Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2024 4:36 PM
To: Eric Dugas <mailto:edu...@unknowndevice.ca>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN


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Thanks... they told me it was free.

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On 4/4/2024 4:12 PM, Eric Dugas wrote:
That name rang a bell so I looked up my emails.

They contacted me last year, they were claiming to be "working with some of the 
major streaming brands, such as Amazon Prime Video, to improve the quality of 
both VOD and live streaming while also reducing the load on ISP networks such 
as your own.".

Based on my quick research, they have a few registered ASNs (their peeringdb 
page<https://www.peeringdb.com/org/36226>) with a few netblocks but I get 0 
traffic from them (we're a sizable eyeball network). Their origin network might 
still not be ready but digging a little bit more, it seems they act as a 
third-party video caching solution and not as an origin CDN so in the end, 
they're really just trying to sell ISPs and other types of customers their 
caching solutions.

Eric

On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 4:00 PM Aaron Gould 
mailto:aar...@gvtc.com>> wrote:
Anyone out there using Netskrt CDN?  I mean, installed in your network
for content delivery to your customers.  I understand Netskrt provides
caching for some well known online video streaming services... just
wondering if there are any network operators that have worked with
Netskrt and deployed their caching servers in your networks and what
have you thought about it?  What Internet uplink savings are you seeing?

Netskrt - 
https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.netskrt.io=0BC8F4C2-155C-0006-865C-9ACE9122981D=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-4155aaa63fbecd5e029360686b5937e73940ca76


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Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN

[Aaron Gould]

I've had my dual-100g-connected Amazon ACEv2 caches for over a year 
now.  With my ~55,000 subs I saw every Thursday night for NFL/TNF usage 
at 15 gbps X2 (so 30 gbps total) and one day in late November 
(thanksgiving probably) I saw 25 gbps x2 (so 50 gbps) usage!


-Aaron

On 4/4/2024 6:08 PM, Paul Bradford wrote:
I have some on my network.  I don't think they populate content from 
their own cdn network, but it comes from Amazon.   interestingly for 
the NFL super bowl, while paramount+ streamed the game, on Amazon 
Prime Video you could "Watch super bowl on paramount+ Via Prime.". 
 that did actually drive users to using the netskrt caches.


They seem to work OK.  TNF in 6 months will tell us more.  :)



On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 6:14 PM John Stitt  wrote:

The website says they are part of the Streaming Video Technology
Alliance.

I wonder if this is a prepackaged Open Cache box.

https://opencaching.svta.org/

We also don’t appear to have had any traffic from them.  Not much
on the peeringdb for the USA ASN either.

BGP.tools shows they have upstreams with each ASN, and are on Ohio
IX with AS53471, but not really any peers anywhere.  Looks like
Cogent and Zayo for upstreams and only peer I see is AS1239
(Sprint Wireline (Cogent))

John Stitt

*From:*NANOG  *On
Behalf Of *Aaron Gould
*Sent:* Thursday, April 4, 2024 4:36 PM
*To:* Eric Dugas 
*Cc:* nanog@nanog.org
*Subject:* Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN




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Thanks... they told me it was free.

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On 4/4/2024 4:12 PM, Eric Dugas wrote:

That name rang a bell so I looked up my emails.

They contacted me last year, they were claiming to be "working
with some of the major streaming brands, such as Amazon Prime
Video, to improve the quality of both VOD and live streaming
while also reducing the load on ISP networks such as your own.".

Based on my quick research, they have a few registered ASNs
(their peeringdb page <https://www.peeringdb.com/org/36226>)
with a few netblocks but I get 0 traffic from them (we're a
sizable eyeball network). Their origin network might still not
be ready but digging a little bit more, it seems they act as a
third-party video caching solution and not as an origin CDN so
in the end, they're really just trying to sell ISPs and other
types of customers their caching solutions.


Eric

On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 4:00 PM Aaron Gould 
wrote:

Anyone out there using Netskrt CDN?  I mean, installed in
your network
for content delivery to your customers.  I understand
Netskrt provides
caching for some well known online video streaming
services... just
wondering if there are any network operators that have
worked with
Netskrt and deployed their caching servers in your
networks and what
have you thought about it?  What Internet uplink savings
are you seeing?

Netskrt - https://www.netskrt.io/


-- 
-Aaron


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Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN

[Mike Hammett]

It's free. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

- Original Message -

From: "Eric Dugas via NANOG"  
To: "Aaron Gould"  
Cc: nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2024 4:12:38 PM 
Subject: Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN 


That name rang a bell so I looked up my emails. 


They contacted me last year, they were claiming to be "working with some of the 
major streaming brands, such as Amazon Prime Video, to improve the quality of 
both VOD and live streaming while also reducing the load on ISP networks such 
as your own.". 


Based on my quick research, they have a few registered ASNs (their peeringdb 
page ) with a few netblocks but I get 0 traffic from them (we're a sizable 
eyeball network). Their origin network might still not be ready but digging a 
little bit more, it seems they act as a third-party video caching solution and 
not as an origin CDN so in the end, they're really just trying to sell ISPs and 
other types of customers their caching solutions. 


Eric 


On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 4:00 PM Aaron Gould < aar...@gvtc.com > wrote: 


Anyone out there using Netskrt CDN? I mean, installed in your network 
for content delivery to your customers. I understand Netskrt provides 
caching for some well known online video streaming services... just 
wondering if there are any network operators that have worked with 
Netskrt and deployed their caching servers in your networks and what 
have you thought about it? What Internet uplink savings are you seeing? 

Netskrt - https://www.netskrt.io/ 


-- 
-Aaron 

Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN

[Paul Bradford]

I have some on my network.  I don't think they populate content from their
own cdn network, but it comes from Amazon.   interestingly for the NFL
super bowl, while paramount+ streamed the game, on Amazon Prime Video you
could "Watch super bowl on paramount+ Via Prime.".  that did actually drive
users to using the netskrt caches.

They seem to work OK.  TNF in 6 months will tell us more.  :)



On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 6:14 PM John Stitt  wrote:

> The website says they are part of the Streaming Video Technology Alliance.
>
>
>
> I wonder if this is a prepackaged Open Cache box.
>
>
>
> https://opencaching.svta.org/
>
>
>
> We also don’t appear to have had any traffic from them.  Not much on the
> peeringdb for the USA ASN either.
>
>
>
> BGP.tools shows they have upstreams with each ASN, and are on Ohio IX with
> AS53471, but not really any peers anywhere.  Looks like Cogent and Zayo for
> upstreams and only peer I see is AS1239 (Sprint Wireline (Cogent))
>
>
>
> John Stitt
>
>
>
> *From:* NANOG  *On
> Behalf Of *Aaron Gould
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 4, 2024 4:36 PM
> *To:* Eric Dugas 
> *Cc:* nanog@nanog.org
> *Subject:* Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN
>
>
>
> You don't often get email from aar...@gvtc.com. Learn why this is
> important <https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification>
>
> Thanks... they told me it was free.
>
> -Aaron
>
> On 4/4/2024 4:12 PM, Eric Dugas wrote:
>
> That name rang a bell so I looked up my emails.
>
>
>
> They contacted me last year, they were claiming to be "working with some
> of the major streaming brands, such as Amazon Prime Video, to improve the
> quality of both VOD and live streaming while also reducing the load on ISP
> networks such as your own.".
>
>
>
> Based on my quick research, they have a few registered ASNs (their peeringdb
> page <https://www.peeringdb.com/org/36226>) with a few netblocks but I
> get 0 traffic from them (we're a sizable eyeball network). Their origin
> network might still not be ready but digging a little bit more, it seems
> they act as a third-party video caching solution and not as an origin CDN
> so in the end, they're really just trying to sell ISPs and other types of
> customers their caching solutions.
>
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 4:00 PM Aaron Gould  wrote:
>
> Anyone out there using Netskrt CDN?  I mean, installed in your network
> for content delivery to your customers.  I understand Netskrt provides
> caching for some well known online video streaming services... just
> wondering if there are any network operators that have worked with
> Netskrt and deployed their caching servers in your networks and what
> have you thought about it?  What Internet uplink savings are you seeing?
>
> Netskrt - https://www.netskrt.io/
>
>
> --
> -Aaron
>
> --
>
> -Aaron
>
>
>
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Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Right now, Amazon Prime is sponsoring the
  deployment of the caches. They deploy in your network and requests
  from your IPs (v4 or v6) are redirected to your on-net caches. For
  on-demand content, it's loaded nightly (as best they can predict)
  and for live (like TNF), it's a one-to-many HLS media server for
  participating content.

On 4/4/24 3:36 PM, Aaron Gould wrote:


  
  Thanks... they told me it was free.
  -Aaron
  
  On 4/4/2024 4:12 PM, Eric Dugas
wrote:
  
  

That name rang a bell so I looked up my emails.
  
  
  They contacted me last year, they were claiming to be
"working with some of the major streaming brands, such as
Amazon Prime Video, to improve the quality of both VOD and
live streaming while also reducing the load on ISP networks
such as your own.".
  
  
  Based on my quick research, they have a few
registered ASNs (their peeringdb page) with a few
netblocks but I get 0 traffic from them (we're a sizable
eyeball network). Their origin network might still not be
ready but digging a little bit more, it seems they act as a
third-party video caching solution and not as an origin CDN
so in the end, they're really just trying to sell ISPs and
other types of customers their caching solutions.
  

  Eric
  



  On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at
4:00 PM Aaron Gould 
wrote:
  
  Anyone
out there using Netskrt CDN?  I mean, installed in your
network 
for content delivery to your customers.  I understand
Netskrt provides 
caching for some well known online video streaming
services... just 
wondering if there are any network operators that have
worked with 
Netskrt and deployed their caching servers in your networks
and what 
have you thought about it?  What Internet uplink savings are
you seeing?

Netskrt - https://www.netskrt.io/


-- 
-Aaron

  

  
  -- 
-Aaron


  

Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN

[Aaron Gould]

Thanks ... that svta caching sounds interesting.  i watched the 
presentation, but don't understand how it's used by ISP's that want to 
benefit from it.


-Aaron

On 4/4/2024 5:14 PM, John Stitt wrote:


The website says they are part of the Streaming Video Technology Alliance.

I wonder if this is a prepackaged Open Cache box.

https://opencaching.svta.org/

We also don’t appear to have had any traffic from them.  Not much on 
the peeringdb for the USA ASN either.


BGP.tools shows they have upstreams with each ASN, and are on Ohio IX 
with AS53471, but not really any peers anywhere.  Looks like Cogent 
and Zayo for upstreams and only peer I see is AS1239 (Sprint Wireline 
(Cogent))


John Stitt

*From:*NANOG  *On 
Behalf Of *Aaron Gould

*Sent:* Thursday, April 4, 2024 4:36 PM
*To:* Eric Dugas 
*Cc:* nanog@nanog.org
*Subject:* Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN




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Thanks... they told me it was free.

-Aaron

On 4/4/2024 4:12 PM, Eric Dugas wrote:

That name rang a bell so I looked up my emails.

They contacted me last year, they were claiming to be "working
with some of the major streaming brands, such as Amazon Prime
Video, to improve the quality of both VOD and live streaming while
also reducing the load on ISP networks such as your own.".

Based on my quick research, they have a few registered ASNs (their
peeringdb page <https://www.peeringdb.com/org/36226>) with a few
netblocks but I get 0 traffic from them (we're a sizable eyeball
network). Their origin network might still not be ready but
digging a little bit more, it seems they act as a third-party
video caching solution and not as an origin CDN so in the end,
they're really just trying to sell ISPs and other types of
customers their caching solutions.


Eric

On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 4:00 PM Aaron Gould  wrote:

Anyone out there using Netskrt CDN?  I mean, installed in your
network
for content delivery to your customers.  I understand Netskrt
provides
caching for some well known online video streaming services...
just
wondering if there are any network operators that have worked
with
Netskrt and deployed their caching servers in your networks
and what
have you thought about it?  What Internet uplink savings are
you seeing?

Netskrt - https://www.netskrt.io/


-- 
-Aaron


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RE: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN

[John Stitt]

The website says they are part of the Streaming Video Technology Alliance.

I wonder if this is a prepackaged Open Cache box.

https://opencaching.svta.org/

We also don’t appear to have had any traffic from them.  Not much on the 
peeringdb for the USA ASN either.

BGP.tools shows they have upstreams with each ASN, and are on Ohio IX with 
AS53471, but not really any peers anywhere.  Looks like Cogent and Zayo for 
upstreams and only peer I see is AS1239 (Sprint Wireline (Cogent))

John Stitt

From: NANOG  On Behalf Of 
Aaron Gould
Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2024 4:36 PM
To: Eric Dugas 
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN

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On 4/4/2024 4:12 PM, Eric Dugas wrote:
That name rang a bell so I looked up my emails.

They contacted me last year, they were claiming to be "working with some of the 
major streaming brands, such as Amazon Prime Video, to improve the quality of 
both VOD and live streaming while also reducing the load on ISP networks such 
as your own.".

Based on my quick research, they have a few registered ASNs (their peeringdb 
page<https://www.peeringdb.com/org/36226>) with a few netblocks but I get 0 
traffic from them (we're a sizable eyeball network). Their origin network might 
still not be ready but digging a little bit more, it seems they act as a 
third-party video caching solution and not as an origin CDN so in the end, 
they're really just trying to sell ISPs and other types of customers their 
caching solutions.

Eric

On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 4:00 PM Aaron Gould 
mailto:aar...@gvtc.com>> wrote:
Anyone out there using Netskrt CDN?  I mean, installed in your network
for content delivery to your customers.  I understand Netskrt provides
caching for some well known online video streaming services... just
wondering if there are any network operators that have worked with
Netskrt and deployed their caching servers in your networks and what
have you thought about it?  What Internet uplink savings are you seeing?

Netskrt - https://www.netskrt.io/


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-Aaron

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Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN

[Aaron1]

Thanks… and does anyone know the benefit of Netskrt for ISPs that already have native Amazon ACEv2 servers installed?AaronOn Apr 4, 2024, at 4:50 PM, Jesse DuPont  wrote:

  

  
  
Right now, Amazon Prime is sponsoring the
  deployment of the caches. They deploy in your network and requests
  from your IPs (v4 or v6) are redirected to your on-net caches. For
  on-demand content, it's loaded nightly (as best they can predict)
  and for live (like TNF), it's a one-to-many HLS media server for
  participating content.

On 4/4/24 3:36 PM, Aaron Gould wrote:


  
  Thanks... they told me it was free.
  -Aaron
  
  On 4/4/2024 4:12 PM, Eric Dugas
wrote:
  
  

That name rang a bell so I looked up my emails.
  
  
  They contacted me last year, they were claiming to be
"working with some of the major streaming brands, such as
Amazon Prime Video, to improve the quality of both VOD and
live streaming while also reducing the load on ISP networks
such as your own.".
  
  
  Based on my quick research, they have a few
registered ASNs (their peeringdb page) with a few
netblocks but I get 0 traffic from them (we're a sizable
eyeball network). Their origin network might still not be
ready but digging a little bit more, it seems they act as a
third-party video caching solution and not as an origin CDN
so in the end, they're really just trying to sell ISPs and
other types of customers their caching solutions.
  

  Eric
  



  On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at
4:00 PM Aaron Gould 
wrote:
  
  Anyone
out there using Netskrt CDN?  I mean, installed in your
network 
for content delivery to your customers.  I understand
Netskrt provides 
caching for some well known online video streaming
services... just 
wondering if there are any network operators that have
worked with 
Netskrt and deployed their caching servers in your networks
and what 
have you thought about it?  What Internet uplink savings are
you seeing?

Netskrt - https://www.netskrt.io/


-- 
-Aaron

  

  
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-Aaron


  

Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN

[Aaron Gould]

Thanks... they told me it was free.

-Aaron

On 4/4/2024 4:12 PM, Eric Dugas wrote:

That name rang a bell so I looked up my emails.

They contacted me last year, they were claiming to be "working with 
some of the major streaming brands, such as Amazon Prime Video, to 
improve the quality of both VOD and live streaming while also reducing 
the load on ISP networks such as your own.".


Based on my quick research, they have a few registered ASNs (their 
peeringdb page ) with a few 
netblocks but I get 0 traffic from them (we're a sizable eyeball 
network). Their origin network might still not be ready but digging a 
little bit more, it seems they act as a third-party video caching 
solution and not as an origin CDN so in the end, they're really just 
trying to sell ISPs and other types of customers their caching solutions.


Eric

On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 4:00 PM Aaron Gould  wrote:

Anyone out there using Netskrt CDN?  I mean, installed in your
network
for content delivery to your customers.  I understand Netskrt
provides
caching for some well known online video streaming services... just
wondering if there are any network operators that have worked with
Netskrt and deployed their caching servers in your networks and what
have you thought about it?  What Internet uplink savings are you
seeing?

Netskrt - https://www.netskrt.io/


-- 
-Aaron



--
-Aaron

Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN

[Eric Dugas via NANOG]

That name rang a bell so I looked up my emails.

They contacted me last year, they were claiming to be "working with some of
the major streaming brands, such as Amazon Prime Video, to improve the
quality of both VOD and live streaming while also reducing the load on ISP
networks such as your own.".

Based on my quick research, they have a few registered ASNs (their peeringdb
page ) with a few netblocks but I get
0 traffic from them (we're a sizable eyeball network). Their origin network
might still not be ready but digging a little bit more, it seems they act
as a third-party video caching solution and not as an origin CDN so in the
end, they're really just trying to sell ISPs and other types of customers
their caching solutions.

Eric

On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 4:00 PM Aaron Gould  wrote:

> Anyone out there using Netskrt CDN?  I mean, installed in your network
> for content delivery to your customers.  I understand Netskrt provides
> caching for some well known online video streaming services... just
> wondering if there are any network operators that have worked with
> Netskrt and deployed their caching servers in your networks and what
> have you thought about it?  What Internet uplink savings are you seeing?
>
> Netskrt - https://www.netskrt.io/
>
>
> --
> -Aaron
>
>