Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-24 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Re: PDU recommendations Date: Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 09:32:00PM -0400 Quoting shawn wilson (ag4ve...@gmail.com): So, that's not a very good endorsement :) Idk why you'd use a fuse in a PDU. MCB units age. Especially with vibration. A 10A MCB becomes a 9A MCB after some miles

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-24 Thread Ryan - Lists
Does anyone on list have experience with the APC AP7920 switched rack PDU, or any of the horizontal rack mountables with management? We're looking at these for our remote sites. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2013, at 6:10 AM, Måns Nilsson mansa...@besserwisser.org wrote: Subject: Re: PDU

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-24 Thread Warren Bailey
:43 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Måns Nilsson mansa...@besserwisser.org Cc: North American Network Operators Group nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: PDU recommendations Does anyone on list have experience with the APC AP7920 switched rack PDU, or any of the horizontal rack mountables with management? We're

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-24 Thread Alain Hebert
mountables with management? We're looking at these for our remote sites. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2013, at 6:10 AM, Måns Nilsson mansa...@besserwisser.org wrote: Subject: Re: PDU recommendations Date: Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 09:32:00PM -0400 Quoting shawn wilson (ag4ve...@gmail.com): So

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-24 Thread shawn wilson
, Måns Nilsson mansa...@besserwisser.org wrote: Subject: Re: PDU recommendations Date: Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 09:32:00PM -0400 Quoting shawn wilson (ag4ve...@gmail.com): So, that's not a very good endorsement :) Idk why you'd use a fuse in a PDU. MCB units age. Especially with vibration

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-24 Thread Ryan - Lists
switched rack PDU, or any of the horizontal rack mountables with management? We're looking at these for our remote sites. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2013, at 6:10 AM, Måns Nilsson mansa...@besserwisser.org wrote: Subject: Re: PDU recommendations Date: Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 09:32:00PM

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-24 Thread Ricky Beam
On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 11:37:43 -0400, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote: However, I figured I'd see if there was a better brand / specific model recommendations for quality or bang / buck? On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 12:02:27 -0400, Michael Loftis mlof...@wgops.com wrote: (knock on wood) nothing

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-24 Thread Mark Keymer
I was wondering if anyone had experience with Geist's outlet monitoring product? I recently started using there basic PDU's and so far so good. But am wondering if anyone has feed back on Geist's outlet monitoring product. Mark Keymer

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-23 Thread Andrew D Kirch
On 6/23/2013 11:37 AM, shawn wilson wrote: We currently use Triplite stuff but they've got an issue where after a few minutes, they stop accepting new tcp connections. We're adding a new 30A circuit and I'm thinking of going with APC (ran them in the past and never had any issues). However, I

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-23 Thread Michael Loftis
Personally have gotten sick of dealing with basically every other vendors PDU out there but APC. APC PDUs may not have every whiz-bang feature but they work. SNMP or SSH pretty solid. You still probably want them on a closed management network but problems even in the wild 'net with port 22

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-23 Thread Nick Khamis
Hello Michael, does that mean you do not employ PDUs in your network? I.e., found a UPS with sufficient number of outlets in the back. With that in mind, could you make a recommendation for such a UPS-direct for a VM environment. Kind Regards, Nick.

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-23 Thread Michael Loftis
No, I only use APC anymore for PDUs. It's the others I've dealt with I don't like. There's quite a few I've never used but after the painfully expensive experiences I've had with Tripp-Lite, Bay tech, MGE (though I think they're part of Schneider or APC now), Liebert (which at the time looked

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-23 Thread tritran
APC is solid. Their newer line can provide outlet metering. WTI is also good...they support redundant circuits. I've seen Baytech died after just unplugging a server. --Original Message-- From: shawn wilson To: North American Network Operators Group Subject: PDU recommendations Sent:

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-23 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 23/06/2013 20:05, trit...@cox.net wrote: APC is solid. Their newer line can provide outlet metering. That's an improvement then. Raritan has had this feature for years, with visibility via SNMP. This was one of the reasons I dumped APC a couple of years ago. Nick

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-23 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 6/23/13 12:08 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote: That's an improvement then. Raritan has had this feature for years, with visibility via SNMP. This was one of the reasons I dumped APC a couple of years ago. The APC metered-by-outlet series are relatively new. I figured it was inevitable when I

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-23 Thread Eric Clark
Raritan has a good line, the usual features, we use a lot of 2U, 208v,30A units with 20xc13 which is a good config these days Their central management software, while not perfect, is excellent for pdu control On Jun 23, 2013, at 8:37 AM, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote: We currently use

RE: PDU recommendations

2013-06-23 Thread Petter Bruland
Network Operators Group Subject: Re: PDU recommendations APC is solid. Their newer line can provide outlet metering. WTI is also good...they support redundant circuits. I've seen Baytech died after just unplugging a server. --Original Message-- From: shawn wilson To: North American Network

RE: PDU recommendations

2013-06-23 Thread shawn wilson
or TrippLite. -Petter From: trit...@cox.net [trit...@cox.net] Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 12:05 PM To: shawn wilson; North American Network Operators Group Subject: Re: PDU recommendations APC is solid. Their newer line can provide outlet metering

RE: PDU recommendations

2013-06-23 Thread Chris Dunn
Been at a place where they have hundreds of APC's in production, all monitored and reporting back. Hardly a lick of trouble. Love the fact you can reboot the management interface in the rare case there is a hang and it does not affect the status of the outlets. -ChrisD. -Original

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-23 Thread Nick Khamis
And now for the stupid question. Is there an APC UPS in a U form factor with sufficient outlets that can act kind of like a PDU, only better? PS If it has stonith capabilities ever better!!! Kind Regards, Nick.

RE: PDU recommendations

2013-06-23 Thread Trey Valenta
I'll also throw out recommendations for ServTech PDUs. They have an affordable line of PDUs with static transfer switches that are particularly attractive for all your single-power-supply devices. Chris Dunn chrisdu...@gmail.com wrote: Been at a place where they have hundreds of APC's in

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-23 Thread Blake Dunlap
Nick, he meant he was using APC PDUs, not APC UPSs with PDU functionality... APC is also the PDU vendor I would recommend. On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com wrote: And now for the stupid question. Is there an APC UPS in a U form factor with sufficient outlets

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-23 Thread Caruso, Anthony
I used an APC (I think) 1U PDU at a client a few years back. The bugger was it wasn't deep, so after the cabinet started getting really populated, the back outlets were a PITA. We started using the full-height back of the cabinet PDU strips (one on each side for A B power respectively) after

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-23 Thread tritran
Eaton have 1U UPS that provide the same runtime as a 2U APC. Are they any good? --Original Message-- From: Nick Khamis To: Chris Dunn Cc: North American Network Operators Group Subject: Re: PDU recommendations Sent: Jun 23, 2013 4:40 PM And now for the stupid question. Is there an APC

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-23 Thread Luke S. Crawford
I also have had good experience with (used) servertech/century/power tower (I think all the same brand) - very inexpensive; if you are in santa clara I have some spare 2u 16 port 208v (20a/c19) units. Here is something a buddy wrote up when we were wiring them to the user-accessable power

RE: PDU recommendations

2013-06-23 Thread Bill Breckenridge
[mailto:petter.brul...@allegiantair.com] Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 3:42 PM To: trit...@cox.net; shawn wilson; North American Network Operators Group Subject: RE: PDU recommendations We're replacing TrippLite with APC. Had two TrippLite SNMP/Web cards stop working at random times, and need to be reset

Re: PDU recommendations

2013-06-23 Thread shawn wilson
So, that's not a very good endorsement :) Idk why you'd use a fuse in a PDU. The management interface can be rebooted without taking anything down on the TrippLite but it's at a colo and it *shouldn't* time out like it does. I think of this like a vehicle computer - if it goes down, you might