Re: Scheduled outage -- Nationwide no driver license updates this weekend

[Justin Streiner]

Sounds like either the National Driver Register or NHTSA is single-homed to
Verizon, or the state DMVs each have a WAN circuit of some sort through
Verizon to where the National Driver Register system physically lives.  If
it's the latter, it sounds like a job that could be handled much more
effectively using site-to-site VPN tunnels, but I understand the realities
of being stuck in a long-term contract, policy mandates that dictate a
physical connection, or things along those lines.  Government agencies can
and sometimes do get funding for infrastructure upgrades and resiliency -
at least if they budget for it...

I'm sure the backstory here is both mundane and interesting.

Thank you
jms

On Sat, Feb 25, 2023 at 6:12 PM Sean Donelan  wrote:

> Verizon network maintenance will impact access to the “National Driver
> Register,” a system that motor vehicle offices around the country need to
> check before handing out a license.
>
> All 50 states and D.C. participate in the National Driver Register, a
> database maintained by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
> The register contains information about drivers who have had their driving
> privileges revoked, suspended or denied due to serious traffic violations,
> such as driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs, reckless driving
> or excessive speeding.
>
>
> The scheduled maintenance should be finished by Monday, in case you needed
> to update your driver's license or planned to do some reckless driving
> this weekend.
>

Re: Scheduled outage -- Nationwide no driver license updates this weekend

[Brian Knight via NANOG]

It seems to say more about fluctuating funding and IT management.I seem to recall an issue with the FAA’s NOTAM / TFR database a few weeks back, one that grounded all flights one fine morning. Wasn’t network-related, but the articles I read about the application’s architecture and fault-tolerance make it seem… lightweight. :) And I would guess that outage was far more impactful than this one is likely to be.-BrianOn Mar 1, 2023, at 9:45 AM, Jason Leschnik  wrote:Says a lot about the architecture of the application and redundancy. I'd love to know what the failover looks like in a worst-case scenario  On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 at 10:51, Aaron de Bruyn via NANOG  wrote:If we have downtime, we lose revenue, customers, sleep, etc...If the government does it, what are you going to do?  Get your license somewhere else?-AOn Sat Feb 25, 2023, 11:39 PM GMT, Christopher Morrow wrote:On Sat, Feb 25, 2023 at 6:12 PM Sean Donelan  wrote:Verizon network maintenance will impact access to the “National DriverRegister,” a system that motor vehicle offices around the country need tocheck before handing out a license.Wait, what year is it?how is a network maintenance on what seems like a fairly critical system goingto cause a total outage of said system?I think we time traveled back to 1990 here...All 50 states and D.C. participate in the National Driver Register, adatabase maintained by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.The register contains information about drivers who have had their drivingprivileges revoked, suspended or denied due to serious traffic violations,such as driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs, reckless drivingor excessive speeding.The scheduled maintenance should be finished by Monday, in case you neededto update your driver's license or planned to do some reckless drivingthis weekend.

Re: Scheduled outage -- Nationwide no driver license updates this weekend

[Jason Leschnik]

Says a lot about the architecture of the application and redundancy. I'd
love to know what the failover looks like in a worst-case scenario

On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 at 10:51, Aaron de Bruyn via NANOG 
wrote:

> If we have downtime, we lose revenue, customers, sleep, etc...
>
> If the government does it, what are you going to do? Get your license
> somewhere else?
>
> -A
>
> On Sat Feb 25, 2023, 11:39 PM GMT, Christopher Morrow
>  wrote:
>
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2023 at 6:12 PM Sean Donelan  wrote:
>
>
> Verizon network maintenance will impact access to the “National Driver
> Register,” a system that motor vehicle offices around the country need to
> check before handing out a license.
>
>
> Wait, what year is it?
> how is a network maintenance on what seems like a fairly critical system
> going
> to cause a total outage of said system?
>
> I think we time traveled back to 1990 here...
>
>
> All 50 states and D.C. participate in the National Driver Register, a
> database maintained by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
> The register contains information about drivers who have had their driving
> privileges revoked, suspended or denied due to serious traffic violations,
> such as driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs, reckless driving
> or excessive speeding.
>
>
> The scheduled maintenance should be finished by Monday, in case you needed
> to update your driver's license or planned to do some reckless driving
> this weekend.
>
>

Re: Scheduled outage -- Nationwide no driver license updates this weekend

[Henry Yen]

On Sat, Feb 25, 2023 at 06:11:55AM -0500, Sean Donelan wrote:
> [...] or planned to do some reckless driving this weekend.

wasn't planning to before, but surely will do so now, thanks!

-- 
Henry Yen   Aegis Information Systems, Inc.
Senior Systems Programmer   Hicksville, New York

Re: Scheduled outage -- Nationwide no driver license updates this weekend

[Aaron de Bruyn via NANOG]

If we have downtime, we lose revenue, customers, sleep, etc...

If the government does it, what are you going to do? Get your license somewhere 
else?

-A

On Sat Feb 25, 2023, 11:39 PM GMT, Christopher Morrow 
 wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2023 at 6:12 PM Sean Donelan  wrote:
>>
>> Verizon network maintenance will impact access to the “National Driver
>> Register,” a system that motor vehicle offices around the country need to
>> check before handing out a license.
>
> Wait, what year is it?
> how is a network maintenance on what seems like a fairly critical system going
> to cause a total outage of said system?
>
> I think we time traveled back to 1990 here...
>>
>> All 50 states and D.C. participate in the National Driver Register, a
>> database maintained by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
>> The register contains information about drivers who have had their driving
>> privileges revoked, suspended or denied due to serious traffic violations,
>> such as driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs, reckless driving
>> or excessive speeding.
>>
>>
>> The scheduled maintenance should be finished by Monday, in case you needed
>> to update your driver's license or planned to do some reckless driving
>> this weekend.

Re: Scheduled outage -- Nationwide no driver license updates this weekend

[Christopher Morrow]

On Sat, Feb 25, 2023 at 6:12 PM Sean Donelan  wrote:
>
> Verizon network maintenance will impact access to the “National Driver
> Register,” a system that motor vehicle offices around the country need to
> check before handing out a license.

Wait, what year is it?
how is a network maintenance on what seems like a fairly critical system going
to cause a total outage of said system?

I think we time traveled back to 1990 here...

>
> All 50 states and D.C. participate in the National Driver Register, a
> database maintained by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
> The register contains information about drivers who have had their driving
> privileges revoked, suspended or denied due to serious traffic violations,
> such as driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs, reckless driving
> or excessive speeding.
>
>
> The scheduled maintenance should be finished by Monday, in case you needed
> to update your driver's license or planned to do some reckless driving
> this weekend.