RE: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video)

2012-03-30 Thread Dylan Bouterse
, March 29, 2012 7:18 PM To: Oliver Garraux Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video) On Mar 29, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Oliver Garraux wrote: Also keep in mind this is unlicensed gear (think unprotected airspace). Nothing stops everyone else in town from throwing one up

Re: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video)

2012-03-30 Thread Greg Ihnen
and you won't see that benefit. So if you're thinking that's going to help between competitors it won't. Greg Dylan -Original Message- From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 7:18 PM To: Oliver Garraux Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: airFiber (text

RE: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video)

2012-03-30 Thread Mark Gauvin
Subject: Re: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video) On Mar 29, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Oliver Garraux wrote: Also keep in mind this is unlicensed gear (think unprotected airspace). Nothing stops everyone else in town from throwing one up and soon you're drowning in a high noise floor

Re: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video)

2012-03-29 Thread Gordon Cook
On Mar 29, 2012, at 1:58 PM, Josh Baird wrote: Anyhow, check the video out on ubnt.com for an introduction and technical overview - it's worth watching. The claim is a huge decline in the cost of backhaul bandwidth for wisps between 10 and 100 times. I have just finished the preparation of

Re: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video)

2012-03-29 Thread Greg Ihnen
Respectfully, the claim isn't a decline in the cost of backhaul bandwidth between 10 and 100 times, the claim is Operators will be able to get 10 to 100 times more data throughput for the same dollar. which granted is a very good thing, but it does not imply how much more money one would have

Re: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video)

2012-03-29 Thread Oliver Garraux
Also keep in mind this is unlicensed gear (think unprotected airspace). Nothing stops everyone else in town from throwing one up and soon you're drowning in a high noise floor and it goes slow or doesn't work at all. Like what's happened to 2.4GHz and 5.8GHz in a lot of places. There's few

Re: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video)

2012-03-29 Thread Anurag Bhatia
Probably it will be a good alternate to FSO based laswer links for backhual. Probably cheaper more reliable solution then hanging lasers between towers for backhaul? On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 1:03 AM, Oliver Garraux oli...@g.garraux.netwrote: Also keep in mind this is unlicensed gear (think

Re: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video)

2012-03-29 Thread Jonathan Lassoff
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Oliver Garraux oli...@g.garraux.net wrote: I was at Ubiquiti's conference.  I don't disagree with what you're saying.  Ubiquiti's take on it seemed to be that 24 Ghz would likely never be used to the extent that 2.4 / 5.8 is.  They are seeing 24 Ghz as only

Re: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video)

2012-03-29 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 3/29/12 21:53 , Jonathan Lassoff wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Oliver Garraux oli...@g.garraux.net wrote: I was at Ubiquiti's conference. I don't disagree with what you're saying. Ubiquiti's take on it seemed to be that 24 Ghz would likely never be used to the extent that 2.4 /

Re: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video)

2012-03-29 Thread Jonathan Lassoff
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Joel jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote: Cost will continue to drop, fact of the matter is the beam width is rather narrow and they attenuate rather well so you can have a fair number of them deployed without co-channel interference. if you pack a tower full of

Re: airFiber (text of the 8 minute video)

2012-03-29 Thread Owen DeLong
On Mar 29, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Oliver Garraux wrote: Also keep in mind this is unlicensed gear (think unprotected airspace). Nothing stops everyone else in town from throwing one up and soon you're drowning in a high noise floor and it goes slow or doesn't work at all. Like what's happened