Re: Dark Fiber in DC Metro

2024-03-05 Thread Ross Tajvar
DC is different from VA. E.g. Astound has a lot of fiber in DC, but not in VA. SummitIG has a lot of fiber between datacenters (i.e. not in DC), but not to non-datacenter premises. Can you be more specific about what you're looking for? On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 7:31 AM Theo Voss wrote: > Hi

Re: Dark Fiber in DC Metro

2024-03-04 Thread Mike Hammett
I would assume that's going to be highly dependent on which facilities you want it to be in. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Theo Voss" To: nanog@nanog.org Sent:

Re: dark fiber connection between 111 E 8th and Coresite NYC1 or NYC2

2020-10-30 Thread Mehmet Akcin
You can visit https://live.infrapedia.com (no login required anymore..) and see the providers On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 18:15 Eric Germann wrote: > Looking for a recommendation of a provider who can give us a dark fiber > cross connect or an L2 connection between the two in the subject for an AWS

Re: dark fiber connection between 111 E 8th and Coresite NYC1 or NYC2

2020-10-30 Thread Robert DeVita
You can probably order an extended XC from Digital realty between the two sites. Robert DeVita Founder & CEO Mejeticks c. 469-441-8864 e. radev...@mejeticks.com From: NANOG on behalf of Eric Germann Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 3:30:00 PM To: nanog@nanog.org

Re: Dark Fiber Providers - Domestic

2018-02-06 Thread Andrew Latham
Slight note that some states separate mineral rights under railroads. Example https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/current-and-former-owners-of-land-next-to-or-under-railroad-rights-of-way-may-be-eligible-for-cash-payments-from-a-class-action-settlement-166270626.html where the URL sums it up.

Re: Dark Fiber Providers - Domestic

2018-02-06 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:40 PM, Rod Beck wrote: > Who regulates and licenses dark fiber providers? Or does no one? Hi Rod, When they use public rights of way (alongside roads for example), dark fiber providers are regulated by the state corporation commission or

Re: Dark Fiber in Latin America

2015-02-13 Thread Alejandro Acosta
Hi Beavis, Just in case, there is a Lacnog mailing list.., the URL: https://mail.lacnic.net/mailman/listinfo/lacnog In case you don't get a response here you might want to try thee. Alejandro, El 2/13/2015 a las 11:32 AM, Beavis escribió: All, I'm looking for some general information of

RE: Dark Fiber in Latin America

2015-02-13 Thread Warsaw LATAM Operations Group
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 11:45:06 -0430 From: alejandroacostaal...@gmail.com To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Dark Fiber in Latin America Hi Beavis, Just in case, there is a Lacnog mailing list.., the URL: https://mail.lacnic.net/mailman/listinfo/lacnog In case you don't get

Re: Dark fiber usage info request - know-how pointers and experience sharing

2012-11-03 Thread Stefan
Thank you all who answered. I got a few good leads to follow, and information on operation gotchas. ***Stefan

Re: Dark fiber usage info request - know-how pointers and experience sharing

2012-11-02 Thread david peahi
In the USA the Federal School Lunch program has built out a parallel fiber network equal to or superior to telco fiber in many urban locations, under the E-Rate program. TheE-Rate backbone fiber is leased typically on a 10-20 year IRU basis. Sunesys is a provider of dark fiber, and their web site

Re: Dark fiber usage info request - know-how pointers and experience sharing

2012-11-02 Thread chip
Your people will need to come to grips with the fact that just being able to see light coming out the end of the fiber is no longer sufficient. Depending on the length you will have to deal with Chromatic Dispersion and compensation for that. People will need to understand that waves that are

RE: Dark fiber / transport in Virginia

2010-05-13 Thread Gary Gladney
You might try the cable operator Charter.com, I think believe they operate in that area. Gary -Original Message- From: Courtney, Mike [mailto:mcourt...@wlu.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:23 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Dark fiber / transport in Virginia All, I am interested in

Re: Dark fiber / transport in Virginia

2010-05-13 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Abovenet/Verizon has fibers in those paths. mehmet On 5/13/10 2:23 PM, Courtney, Mike mcourt...@wlu.edu wrote: All, I am interested in finding out about dark fiber / transport resources along I-81 or I-64 in the western part of Virginia. I¹d like to find a transport provider that could

Re: dark fiber

2010-02-11 Thread Deric Kwok
Can I have question? What is dark fiber? Thank you On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 5:08 PM, James Jones ja...@freedomnet.co.nz wrote: I am doing some researchis there a way to find out where there is dark fiber and who own's it?

Re: dark fiber

2010-02-11 Thread Craig Vuljanic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_fibre On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Deric Kwok deric.kwok2...@gmail.comwrote: Can I have question? What is dark fiber? Thank you On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 5:08 PM, James Jones ja...@freedomnet.co.nz wrote: I am doing some researchis there a

RE: dark fiber

2010-02-11 Thread Jess Cohen
Message- From: Deric Kwok [mailto:deric.kwok2...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:14 AM To: James Jones Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: dark fiber Can I have question? What is dark fiber? Thank you On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 5:08 PM, James Jones ja...@freedomnet.co.nz wrote: I

Re: dark fiber

2010-02-11 Thread steve pirk [egrep]
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 08:21, Jess Cohen j...@corenap.com wrote: GOOGLE: Dark fiber is optical fiber infrastructure (cabling and repeaters) that is currently in place but is not being used. Optical fiber conveys information in the form of light pulses so the dark means no light pulses are

Re: dark fiber

2010-02-10 Thread Charles N Wyble
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Jones wrote: I am doing some researchis there a way to find out where there is dark fiber and who own's it? In California I have had the best success with environmental impact reports from he public utility commission office. Your

Re: dark fiber

2010-02-10 Thread Jared Mauch
On Feb 10, 2010, at 5:08 PM, James Jones wrote: I am doing some researchis there a way to find out where there is dark fiber and who own's it? You may be better off asking nznog if it's local to you (or your email). - Jared

Re: dark fiber

2010-02-10 Thread James Jones
Sent from my iPhone On Feb 10, 2010, at 5:15 PM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote: On Feb 10, 2010, at 5:08 PM, James Jones wrote: I am doing some researchis there a way to find out where there is dark fiber and who own's it? You may be better off asking nznog if it's local

Re: dark fiber

2010-02-10 Thread Martin Hannigan
FCC filings are rich with this type information. http://www.fcc.gov On 2/10/10, James Jones ja...@freedomnet.co.nz wrote: I am doing some researchis there a way to find out where there is dark fiber and who own's it? -- Martin Hannigan

RE: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-06 Thread John van Oppen
: 206.973.8302 Main: 206.973.8300 Website: http://spectrumnetworks.us -Original Message- From: William Herrin [mailto:herrin-na...@dirtside.com] Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 5:11 PM To: ML Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:24 PM, ML

RE: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-04 Thread Martin, Paul
[mailto:kevin.ho...@gmail.com] Sent: 02 January 2010 23:36 To: Mike Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Mike mike-na...@tiedyenetworks.com wrote: I am looking at the possibility of leasing a ~70 mile run of fiber. I don't have access

RE: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-04 Thread Frank Bulk - iName.com
and to add, OTDR at several wavelengths, just in case you want to do xWDM in the future. Frank -Original Message- From: ML [mailto:m...@kenweb.org] Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 6:24 PM To: Mike Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations On 1/1/2010 5

Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-02 Thread Rene Avi
On 02.01.2010 13:22, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 12:35:15PM +0100, Rene Avi wrote: With regards to suggested EDFA amplification tricks and similar: If the requirement is not 15...@1g or 8...@10g/DWDM then I personally strongly disencourage the use of optical amps.

RE: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-02 Thread Carlos Alcantar
In my experience in leasing dark fiber strands over long distance the providers usually give the option for regen colo space. And in some cases they wanted to know full specs of the equipment you are going to be using so there is no questions if it will work or not. Carlos Alcantar Race

Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-02 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Sat, 2 Jan 2010, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Fri, 1 Jan 2010, Justin M. Streiner wrote: The first thing you need to do is test the fiber with an OTDR. If you don't have one, you can probably contract a local cabling company to test it for you. Why would you want an OTDR report on

Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-02 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 02/01/2010 18:37, Justin M. Streiner wrote: I'm a big believer in running my own tests when possible, and not just relying on $provider's word. It also allows me to verify what their engineering reports tell me about the condition of a span. +1 There's nothing like having hard data to

Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-02 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sat, 2 Jan 2010, Justin M. Streiner wrote: Some OTDRs (or, more correctly, fiber test sets that include OTDR capabilities) are multi-function devices that will show you the overall length (assuming the span is not broken somewhere in the middle), of the span, plus attenuation and

Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-02 Thread Kevin Hodle
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Mike mike-na...@tiedyenetworks.com wrote: I am looking at the possibility of leasing a ~70 mile run of fiber. I don't have access to any mid point section for regeneration purposes, and so I am wondering what the chances that a 120km rated SFP would be able to

Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-01 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Fri, 1 Jan 2010, Mike wrote: I am looking at the possibility of leasing a ~70 mile run of fiber. I don't have access to any mid point section for regeneration purposes, and so I am wondering what the chances that a 120km rated SFP would be able to light the path and provide stable

Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-01 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 02:52:33PM -0800, Mike wrote: I am looking at the possibility of leasing a ~70 mile run of fiber. I don't have access to any mid point section for regeneration purposes, and so I am wondering what the chances that a 120km rated SFP would be able to light the path and

Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-01 Thread Alexander Harrowell
On Friday 01 January 2010 23:19:30 Richard A Steenbergen wrote: On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 02:52:33PM -0800, Mike wrote: I am looking at the possibility of leasing a ~70 mile run of fiber. I don't have access to any mid point section for regeneration purposes, and so I am wondering what the

Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-01 Thread ML
On 1/1/2010 5:52 PM, Mike wrote: I am looking at the possibility of leasing a ~70 mile run of fiber. I don't have access to any mid point section for regeneration purposes, and so I am wondering what the chances that a 120km rated SFP would be able to light the path and provide stable

Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-01 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:24 PM, ML m...@kenweb.org wrote: Pardon my ignorance in this area but is too much to ask for OTDR data before signing contracts?  In addition to data on the make of the fiber if you wanted to do xWDM in the future. Yes, it's too much to ask. They won't splice your path

Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-01 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 02/01/2010 00:24, ML wrote: Pardon my ignorance in this area but is too much to ask for OTDR data before signing contracts? In addition to data on the make of the fiber if you wanted to do xWDM in the future. fibre grade / quality, absolutely. otdr is difficult, because fibre providers