Re: netstat -s

2019-08-06 Thread Mike O'Connor
:On Jul 17, 2019, at 20:54, Randy Bush wrote: :> :> do folk use `netstat -s` to help diagnose on routers/switches? Yes, for sufficienly Unix-y routers/switches. :I have used netstat -s on hosts to look at error counters if a switch or router was suspect. :But that was a while ago (anyone

Re: netstat -s

2019-07-20 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Jul 20, 2019, at 6:14 PM, Joel Jaeggli wrote: > > On 7/17/19 17:54, Randy Bush wrote: > >> do folk use `netstat -s` to help diagnose on routers/switches? > > I suspect there's an unstated question here of should metrics reported > by netstat -s which includes metrics from the kernel

Re: netstat -s

2019-07-20 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 7/17/19 17:54, Randy Bush wrote: > do folk use `netstat -s` to help diagnose on routers/switches? I suspect there's an unstated question here of should metrics reported by netstat -s  which includes metrics from the kernel should include metrics derived from from the asic counters. I do /

Re: netstat -s

2019-07-20 Thread Radu-Adrian Feurdean
On Thu, Jul 18, 2019, at 02:55, Randy Bush wrote: > do folk use `netstat -s` to help diagnose on routers/switches? > > randy Before today, I've never heard on anyone using it on routers/switches. Only on servers. `netstat -s` not very often. `netstat` (all options included) - less ans less

Re: netstat -s

2019-07-19 Thread Carsten Bormann
On Jul 17, 2019, at 20:54, Randy Bush wrote: > > do folk use `netstat -s` to help diagnose on routers/switches? I have used netstat -s on hosts to look at error counters if a switch or router was suspect. But that was a while ago (anyone remember when NFS corrupted all your files if one of

Re: netstat -s

2019-07-19 Thread J. Hellenthal via NANOG
Personaly I think that circumstance weighs the benifits of the utilities used to diagnose a problem. Given any instance, you use the utilities available to you to see that problem through to completion of a proper result. The question in hand is very broad but particular to an instance that is

Re: netstat -s

2019-07-19 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 05:54:49PM -0700, Randy Bush wrote: > do folk use `netstat -s` to help diagnose on routers/switches? I (mostly) use it on firewalls, but yes, it's something I turn to fairly often (along with other incantations of netstat, plus lsof and other tools). ---rsk

Re: netstat -s

2019-07-18 Thread Joe Provo
On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 05:54:49PM -0700, Randy Bush wrote: > do folk use `netstat -s` to help diagnose on routers/switches? Sometimes - it depends on the problems and visibility/lack thereof provided by other methods. In the netstat family of flags, what I *really* miss is DEC's 'netstat

Re: netstat -s, but off topic a bit

2019-07-18 Thread James R Cutler
> Ideally folks should be subshells (unless you're on a strange system or > legacy system). > I have never thought of myself as subshell, even on a low carbohydrate system > netstat is now mostly obsolete. > Replacement for netstat is ss. > Replacement for netstat -r is ip route. >

Re: netstat -s

2019-07-18 Thread Brett Watson
> On Jul 17, 2019, at 6:54 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > > do folk use `netstat -s` to help diagnose on routers/switches? > indeed.

Re: netstat -s

2019-07-18 Thread Ross Tajvar
> but could you answer my question? Just seemed like there was some urgency so I was curious. On Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 5:57 PM Randy Bush wrote: > > Why do you want to know? > > why do you want to know why i want to know? :) > >

Re: netstat -s

2019-07-18 Thread Randy Bush
> Why do you want to know? why do you want to know why i want to know? :)

Re: netstat -s

2019-07-18 Thread Ross Tajvar
Why do you want to know? On Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 5:55 PM Randy Bush wrote: > > Ideally folks should be subshells (unless you're on a strange system or > > legacy system). > > > > netstat is now mostly obsolete. > > Replacement for netstat is ss. > > Replacement for netstat -r is ip route. > >

Re: netstat -s

2019-07-18 Thread Randy Bush
> Ideally folks should be subshells (unless you're on a strange system or > legacy system). > > netstat is now mostly obsolete.  > Replacement for netstat is ss.   > Replacement for  netstat -r is ip route. > Replacement for netstat -i is ip -s link. > Replacement for netstat -g is ip maddr. on

Re: netstat -s

2019-07-18 Thread Steven M. Miano
Ideally folks should be subshells (unless you're on a strange system or legacy system). netstat is now mostly obsolete.  Replacement for netstat is ss.   Replacement for  netstat -r is ip route. Replacement for netstat -i is ip -s link. Replacement for netstat -g is ip maddr.

Re: netstat -s

2019-07-18 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:43 AM Chris Cariffe wrote: > [netstat] -rn and -an fan here! > Rarely use them. "ip route show" and "lsof +c 15 -nP | grep TCP" are normally more useful. -- William Herrin b...@herrin.us https://bill.herrin.us/

Re: netstat -s

2019-07-18 Thread Chris Cariffe
-rn and -an fan here! On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 8:56 PM Randy Bush wrote: > do folk use `netstat -s` to help diagnose on routers/switches? > > randy >

Re: netstat -s

2019-07-18 Thread J. Hellenthal via NANOG
I know I have a few times after seeing SNMP bumps of errors but mainly just so I could get up to the moment error rates or stats. Other than that though it’s a very minor usage IMO -- J. Hellenthal The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about