Re: [naviserver-devel] Sourceforge again

2006-05-11 Thread Vlad Seryakov
I am not pushing, just expressed my frustration: in Feb more than a week, now almost a week. Let's see if this issue will popup again in couple of months. Zoran Vasiljevic wrote: On 11.05.2006, at 19:01, Vlad Seryakov wrote: But i would prefer naviserver be hosted on some third party system

Re: [naviserver-devel] Sourceforge again

2006-05-11 Thread Zoran Vasiljevic
On 11.05.2006, at 19:01, Vlad Seryakov wrote: But i would prefer naviserver be hosted on some third party system with full access and be able to run it as web server. We do not need a lot of things: simple web pages, tracker/forum, mailing list, wiki. Vlad, WHO is going to maintain that

Re: [naviserver-devel] Sourceforge again

2006-05-11 Thread Vlad Seryakov
It's not obvious? One, OVERHEAD. Two, people lose interest, go away, or just lack time. If those people happen to be the one's providing or maintaining the servers, Bad Things can happen. It's better to avoid those risks if you can. Yes, this is true, but being public, everybody can copy the

Re: [naviserver-devel] Sourceforge again

2006-05-11 Thread Bernd Eidenschink
> It's not obvious? One, OVERHEAD. Two, people lose interest, go away, > or just lack time. If those people happen to be the one's providing > or maintaining the servers, Bad Things can happen. It's better to > avoid those risks if you can. we had a similar talk when the naviserver fork was di

Re: [naviserver-devel] Sourceforge again

2006-05-11 Thread Stephen Deasey
On 5/11/06, Zoran Vasiljevic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11.05.2006, at 17:14, Andrew Piskorski wrote: > > In case it's useful, here's a list I wrote up a while back, it gives > the names of various version control Ubuntu packages, all easily > installable with apt-get. I planned to experime

Re: [naviserver-devel] Sourceforge again

2006-05-11 Thread Zoran Vasiljevic
On 11.05.2006, at 17:14, Andrew Piskorski wrote: In case it's useful, here's a list I wrote up a while back, it gives the names of various version control Ubuntu packages, all easily installable with apt-get. I planned to experiment with each of these, but haven't gotten around to it yet: I'

Re: [naviserver-devel] Sourceforge again

2006-05-11 Thread Andrew Piskorski
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 09:47:11AM -0400, Vlad Seryakov wrote: > What is the reason for NOT SELF-HOSTING Naviserver repository? It's not obvious? One, OVERHEAD. Two, people lose interest, go away, or just lack time. If those people happen to be the one's providing or maintaining the servers, Ba

Re: [naviserver-devel] Sourceforge again

2006-05-11 Thread Vlad Seryakov
What is the reason for NOT SELF-HOSTING Naviserver repository? Working with multiple hosting providers i can tell from my experience that their solutions are not better or more reliable than well-thought server setup that is installed in any datacenter. As SF shows, disk failure can bring down

Re: [naviserver-devel] Sourceforge again

2006-05-11 Thread Andrew Piskorski
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 07:48:37AM +0200, Bernd Eidenschink wrote: > > > Is it worth considering alternative server, subversion maybe? > > with subversion, do you think of just changing from CVS to the revision > control system "subversion" or to another server with CVS/subversion? > > Looks li

Re: [naviserver-devel] Sourceforge again

2006-05-10 Thread Bernd Eidenschink
Hi Vlad, > > Is it worth considering alternative server, subversion maybe? with subversion, do you think of just changing from CVS to the revision control system "subversion" or to another server with CVS/subversion? Looks like the subversion RCS had less outages on SF than CVS, but this might

Re: [naviserver-devel] Sourceforge again

2006-05-10 Thread Vlad Seryakov
I agree, it is more than just CVS, but it looks like my tolerance level is much lower than yours:-))) Zoran Vasiljevic wrote: On 10.05.2006, at 17:52, Vlad Seryakov wrote: Oh, i do not know, i am asking in general, hosting can be found or i can offer one of my servers that is in the data cen

Re: [naviserver-devel] Sourceforge again

2006-05-10 Thread Zoran Vasiljevic
On 10.05.2006, at 17:52, Vlad Seryakov wrote: Oh, i do not know, i am asking in general, hosting can be found or i can offer one of my servers that is in the data center. The repository alone is not the only issue, althogh this can be pretty ugly when you cannot checkout because SF is down. O

Re: [naviserver-devel] Sourceforge again

2006-05-10 Thread Vlad Seryakov
Oh, i do not know, i am asking in general, hosting can be found or i can offer one of my servers that is in the data center. Zoran Vasiljevic wrote: On 10.05.2006, at 17:43, Vlad Seryakov wrote: How do you feel about SF lately, this year i got impression it is was more down then up and get

Re: [naviserver-devel] Sourceforge again

2006-05-10 Thread Zoran Vasiljevic
On 10.05.2006, at 17:43, Vlad Seryakov wrote: How do you feel about SF lately, this year i got impression it is was more down then up and getting slower and slower. Is it worth considering alternative server, subversion maybe? Where is that? Does it also offer comparable services for free

[naviserver-devel] Sourceforge again

2006-05-10 Thread Vlad Seryakov
hi guys, How do you feel about SF lately, this year i got impression it is was more down then up and getting slower and slower. Is it worth considering alternative server, subversion maybe? -- Vlad Seryakov 571 262-8608 office [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.crystalballinc.com/vlad/