[nazerene] * WHY DON'T I ALWAYS FEEL THE HOLY SPIRIT ?

2006-06-01 Thread Brother Bob...






 
WHY DON'T I ALWAYS "FEEL" 
THE HOLY SPIRIT ?

Dear brother bob,

I am confused about God taking his 
Holy Spirit away. I can not feel HIM at certain times, especially if I have gone 
astray. This is very scary. Yet I am assured that He never leaves us or forsakes 
us. 

After I take my eyes off him and am in 
pain and regret, it takes a while to feel HIS love for me again. Yet I do know 
He is there, but I feel like he is further away... separated by my wall of sin. 
Praying for forgiveness and repenting does not instantly put me back in his 
loving arms. This is so confusing...please explain.
Thanks. God bless you... 
F--

Dear F, 



Thanks for your question.. This is a really good one, 
because it cuts right to the heart of being a christian in everyday life, in all 
circumstances...

In the New Testament 
scheme of things, after Christ breathed on His disciples and said "Receive ye the Holy Ghost"(John 20: 21-23), the Holy 
Spirit was given to live inside us. Before this time, "the 
Spirit was not yet given"up to this point..and it was not given" because Jesus was not yet 
glorified"(John 7:38-39). Up until then, the Holy Spirit only rested upon 
people, for various types of spiritual service to God.

In Old Testament times, the Holy Spirit 
"rested upon" people, and then they prophesied or did other supernatural things, 
like Samson"s great strength. And they were able to do the will of God with 
supernatural power as long as the Spirit rested upon them.

In those times, a person's salvation was 
marked by God changing their name, the name being significant of a person's 
character, Gen 32:28 as an example. But their ability 
to do great things for God was connected to the Holy Spirit resting on them..and 
if they were disobedient to God or sinned, God took away the Holy Spirit from 
them. 

This removal of the Spirit, for 
example,caused Samson to bejust anordinaryman again, 
unable to do the powerful things that God was able to accomplish through him. 
Actually, it does not say that Samson all of a sudden became unsaved because of 
this, because he again seeks God's gift and help and God gives it to him 
again... showing that he still enjoyed God's favor and usefullness. Only his 
supernatural abilities were removed.

In some ways, there is a certain 
consistency between this and the new testament way of doing things if we are 
not experiencing the filling of the Holy Spirit, we are not able to do great 
things in the power of God either. But there the similarity ends, because the 
Holy Spirit comes to live inside of us, and takes up permanent residence in our 
hearts. He says He will 
never leave us or forsake us, (Heb 13:5) so He will not take His Spirit 
away from us, but we are just unable to enjoy the Spirit's blessings because of 
the convicting work of the Spirit as the result of our sin. As Paul 
says...

I am crucified with 
Christ: nevertheless I live;
yet not I, but 
Christ lives in me: 
and the life which I 
now live in the flesh 
I live by the faith 
of the Son of God,
who loved me, and gave himself for me.(Gal 2:20) 


Paul treats 
the indwelling of Christ as a present fact, and does not leave the door open to 
this being a temporary condition. Of course, committing a sin will temporarily 
disturb our Fellowship with God, we feel guilty, we feel that God no longer 
hears us, we feel we are worthless and get depressed and agitatedas it 
says...

But your iniquities 
have separated between you and your God, 
and your sins have 
hid his face from you, 
such that he will not hear.(Isa 
59:2) 


But still, the promise of God remains 
the same..WE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE..

And this is the 
record, that God has given to us eternal life, 
and this life is in 
his Son.He that hath the Son hath life;
and he that 
hath not the Son of God hath not life.
These things have 
I written unto you
that believe on 
the name of the Son of God; 
that ye may know that 
ye have eternal life, 
and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of 
God.(1 John 
5:11-13)


Eternal life is a possession, and 
eternal life goes on forever, by the very definition of "eternal"...So how can 
you have eternal life one day, and lose it the next day, and then get it back 
that day after that??This would be temporary life dependent on our 
fallen nature to maintain.This is not Biblical, and no where can you 
findverses in the New Testament to support this. Of course there are 
people who"appear" to be saved, and then in times of difficulty may fall 
away or turn theirbacks on God and His salvation. Butit is doubtful 
if these were ever really saved, as Jesus describes in the Parable of the Sower 
and the Soils. But this is another whole study.

If you have commited some sin, and the 
Holy Spirit is convicting you of it and you fell awful and like God has drawn 
away from you, the remedy is to confess that 

[nazerene] *WHY DON'T I ALWAYS FEEL THE HOLY SPIRIT ?

2006-04-08 Thread Brother Bob...






 
WHY DON'T I ALWAYS "FEEL" 
THE HOLY SPIRIT ?

Dear brother bob,

I am confused about God taking his 
Holy Spirit away. I can not feel HIM at certain times, especially if I have gone 
astray. This is very scary. Yet I am assured that He never leaves us or forsakes 
us. 

After I take my eyes off him and am in 
pain and regret, it takes a while to feel HIS love for me again. Yet I do know 
He is there, but I feel like he is further away... separated by my wall of sin. 
Praying for forgiveness and repenting does not instantly put me back in his 
loving arms. This is so confusing...please explain.
Thanks. God bless you... 
F--

Dear F, 



Thanks for your question.. This is a really good one, 
because it cuts right to the heart of being a christian in everyday life, in all 
circumstances...

In the New Testament 
scheme of things, after Christ breathed on His disciples and said "Receive ye the Holy Ghost"(John 20: 21-23), the Holy 
Spirit was given to live inside us. Before this time, "the 
Spirit was not yet given"up to this point..and it was not given" because Jesus was not yet 
glorified"(John 7:38-39). Up until then, the Holy Spirit only rested upon 
people, for various types of spiritual service to God.

In Old Testament times, the Holy Spirit 
"rested upon" people, and then they prophesied or did other supernatural things, 
like Samson"s great strength. And they were able to do the will of God with 
supernatural power as long as the Spirit rested upon them.

In those times, a person's salvation was 
marked by God changing their name, the name being significant of a person's 
character, Gen 32:28 as an example. But their ability 
to do great things for God was connected to the Holy Spirit resting on them..and 
if they were disobedient to God or sinned, God took away the Holy Spirit from 
them. 

This removal of the Spirit, for 
example,caused Samson to bejust anordinaryman again, 
unable to do the powerful things that God was able to accomplish through him. 
Actually, it does not say that Samson all of a sudden became unsaved because of 
this, because he again seeks God's gift and help and God gives it to him 
again... showing that he still enjoyed God's favor and usefullness. Only his 
supernatural abilities were removed.

In some ways, there is a certain 
consistency between this and the new testament way of doing things if we are 
not experiencing the filling of the Holy Spirit, we are not able to do great 
things in the power of God either. But there the similarity ends, because the 
Holy Spirit comes to live inside of us, and takes up permanent residence in our 
hearts. He says He will 
never leave us or forsake us, (Heb 13:5) so He will not take His Spirit 
away from us, but we are just unable to enjoy the Spirit's blessings because of 
the convicting work of the Spirit as the result of our sin. As Paul 
says...

I am crucified with 
Christ: nevertheless I live;
yet not I, but 
Christ lives in me: 
and the life which I 
now live in the flesh 
I live by the faith 
of the Son of God,
who loved me, and gave himself for me.(Gal 2:20) 


Paul treats 
the indwelling of Christ as a present fact, and does not leave the door open to 
this being a temporary condition. Of course, committing a sin will temporarily 
disturb our Fellowship with God, we feel guilty, we feel that God no longer 
hears us, we feel we are worthless and get depressed and agitatedas it 
says...

But your iniquities 
have separated between you and your God, 
and your sins have 
hid his face from you, 
such that he will not hear.(Isa 
59:2) 


But still, the promise of God remains 
the same..WE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE..

And this is the 
record, that God has given to us eternal life, 
and this life is in 
his Son.He that hath the Son hath life;
and he that 
hath not the Son of God hath not life.
These things have 
I written unto you
that believe on 
the name of the Son of God; 
that ye may know that 
ye have eternal life, 
and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of 
God.(1 John 
5:11-13)


Eternal life is a possession, and 
eternal life goes on forever, by the very definition of "eternal"...So how can 
you have eternal life one day, and lose it the next day, and then get it back 
that day after that??This would be temporary life dependent on our 
fallen nature to maintain.This is not Biblical, and no where can you 
findverses in the New Testament to support this. Of course there are 
people who"appear" to be saved, and then in times of difficulty may fall 
away or turn theirbacks on God and His salvation. Butit is doubtful 
if these were ever really saved, as Jesus describes in the Parable of the Sower 
and the Soils. But this is another whole study.

If you have commited some sin, and the 
Holy Spirit is convicting you of it and you fell awful and like God has drawn 
away from you, the remedy is to confess that