Re: [nebula-dev] Future of Nebula

2013-04-12 Thread Edwin Park
So, I agree let's focus on revamping the widget catalog as a first step. Let me know if you need any help with this. As for the project organization, I'm not going to push hard to change this if you're happy with it, I just wanted to point out the tradeoff that is being made there. Basically we

Re: [nebula-dev] Future of Nebula

2013-04-09 Thread Wim Jongman
Thanks for the input and the offer for help Edwin. I agree with most of your ideas but I'm happy with the current state of our build and repo. Mickael? 2. Revamp the widget catalog. This is the first thing prospective users of Nebula will see, and it should convey accurate and useful

Re: [nebula-dev] Future of Nebula

2013-04-09 Thread Hallvard Trætteberg
Hi, Sorry my comments are a bit late (Easter holiday/Spring break). From the consumer perspective, I agree that a table summarizing the purpose, features and state of widgets is important. I think a table with the following contents would be a good start: - widget name - one-liner

Re: [nebula-dev] Future of Nebula

2013-04-09 Thread Wim Jongman
- This includes updating the documentation regularly, speaking at conferences, writing blogs, adding more widgets - Improve project management Don't missunderstand me, you are doing a great job Wim, but the last year there was fairly no action in Nebula. At least none that

Re: [nebula-dev] Future of Nebula

2013-04-09 Thread Wim Jongman
Hi Hallvard, Thanks for joining the discussion. On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Hallvard Trætteberg h...@idi.ntnu.no wrote: Hi, Sorry my comments are a bit late (Easter holiday/Spring break). From the consumer perspective, I agree that a table summarizing the purpose, features and state

Re: [nebula-dev] Future of Nebula

2013-04-08 Thread Dirk Fauth
Hi, sorry for the late reply, but here are my 2 cents. I have read all previous answers, but I'm not sure if I remember everything. :) I completely agree with your analysis Wim. What I think needs to be improved is: - we need to create a us ... a feeling that we all belong to a great

Re: [nebula-dev] Future of Nebula

2013-04-07 Thread Wim Jongman
@Mickael Incubation is actually a cool status, it makes things easier sometimes. For Nebula, I also don't think there is a big benefit in turning it into a released project. But there is no issue in being a release neither... I see where you come from but I think EMO will disagree. Being a

Re: [nebula-dev] Future of Nebula

2013-04-07 Thread Wim Jongman
@Edwin Thank you for your positive feedback Edwin. That is highly appreciated. Also, it is unclear what level of support can be expected of a particular widget. I think we could be clearer about this. It would be great if we could clearly identify on the web site a 'lead' for each widget.

Re: [nebula-dev] Future of Nebula

2013-04-07 Thread Wim Jongman
@Patrick It would also help, in that context, to maintain somewhere easily visible the status of each of the components. It is helpful to potential users to know whether it is alpha/beta/rc/production, as well as the level of current attention it is getting from committers. Yes, that is

[nebula-dev] Future of Nebula

2013-04-05 Thread Wim Jongman
Dear People, After a good year of serving as co-lead of Nebula it is time to reflect upon the status and future of the project. When I joined as co-lead there were a number of things that I wanted to help with. * make the project easier to consume * fix the build and continuous release * promote

Re: [nebula-dev] Future of Nebula

2013-04-05 Thread Mickael Istria
My analysis for this is the following: Widget authors are pretty much individualists. We have many widgets and many authors but there is not sense of a one product like you would have for other projects. Every widget is more or less self sustained. Hence there is no us. Most widgets are

Re: [nebula-dev] Future of Nebula

2013-04-05 Thread Edwin Park
Hi Wim, First off, I'd like to say you've done a tremendous job in leading Nebula and we all owe you a huge debt of gratitude for all you've done. I really appreciate your analysis of the situation and fostering discussion of these issues. Here is my view of the situation. I look at Nebula as a

Re: [nebula-dev] Future of Nebula

2013-04-05 Thread Rusk, Patrick
I agree with Edwin's suggestions to make Nebula simply an aggregator of sub-projects. It would also help, in that context, to maintain somewhere easily visible the status of each of the components. It is helpful to potential users to know whether it is alpha/beta/rc/production, as well as the