Re: [neonixie-l] Large tubes - advice needed for not getting swindled on ebay

2010-11-03 Thread jb-electronics
Hello Steve, welcome to the expensive Nixie world :-) Seriously, the seller "geoffnel" is known to sell a LOT of Panaplex tubes, and I know he has a vast stock of NIB ZM1040 tubes. Why not email him directly (using the Ebay messaging system) and ask for a price of new ZM1040s? $50 for a Tes

Re: [neonixie-l] Large tubes - advice needed for not getting swindled on ebay

2010-11-03 Thread Shane Ellis
If this is your first, and you're looking to get your feet wet, why not try an easier, cheaper tube, like the IN-14. direct solder, or wire pins, no socket, side display, and much MUCH cheaper than IN-18s I'm new to this, but these are what I have been using. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Stev

Re: [neonixie-l] Large tubes - advice needed for not getting swindled on ebay

2010-11-03 Thread Michail1
Yup, the IN-18's are expensive. Almost an investment. I bought those and stock in microsoft as well. I think I did better on the IN-18s. Shopping on ebay is your lowest price. You can expect the $120 auction to go up, but not by to much since they are listed as "used". New set of 7 i

[neonixie-l] Large tubes - advice needed for not getting swindled on ebay

2010-11-03 Thread Steve Scorn
Dear group; As per most starter nixie clock builders; I've been looking at IN-18 size tubes, approx 40mm high, and my God they are expensive! I've found a listing for a Philips ZM1040 sold ex Russia on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ZM1040-TESLA-nixie-tube-red-1pc-/220690126115?pt=LH_DefaultDomai

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Keeping your clock accurate

2010-11-03 Thread Michail1
Adam, We are both in the same area (physically). Maybe collab on the WWVB might be in hand. I did suggest it, because he said Arduino, and I have found plenty of online code specific to WWVB and Arduino. But, like you, still a work in progress as it sits powerless in front of me. Also,

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Keeping your clock accurate

2010-11-03 Thread Adam Jacobs
I second this. For the same money (cheap) you're looking at far greater accuracy than most crystal designs. To me, being able to keep track of time while unplugged is a special design requirement that most clocks needn't have. If this is necessary, I usually go with a DS32khz & DS1307 & a button

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Keeping your clock accurate

2010-11-03 Thread Joe Croft
I solved this by having an rtc on my clock (for setting the initial time on reset) which I update it's time every 5 minutes with what is on my clock. That way, it only drifts when I loose power. I can almost have my cake and eat it too! -joe On Wednesday 03 November 2010 11:38:56 micha...@aol.

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Keeping your clock accurate

2010-11-03 Thread Michail1
Agreed. Unless your power goes out (often in my area). Michail In a message dated 11/3/2010 8:35:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, the...@gmail.com writes: The simplest and cheapest way to go is to use line frequency. Accurate within a couple of seconds over months and the cost of impli

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Keeping your clock accurate

2010-11-03 Thread Bill Esposito
The simplest and cheapest way to go is to use line frequency. Accurate within a couple of seconds over months and the cost of implimentation is: 1. AC 9V wall wart. 2. 6 diodes. 3. 7805 regulator to you +5V for your micro. connect the clock signal to your microcontroller and every time you see 60

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Keeping your clock accurate

2010-11-03 Thread Michail1
Frank/Steve, Another thought is adding a WWRB receiver. $13 from Digikey. This way you are always accurate (or at least self fixing all the time - and no need to worry about ever setting the time). I bought two of them, but, I have to admit. They aren't doing very good since I still ha

[neonixie-l] Re: Keeping your clock accurate

2010-11-03 Thread coggs
> Doesn't that give you an inaccuracy of +/- 5ms on your 60 seconds > measurement? Correct which means worst case you could drift +/- 7 secs/day which most would consider unreasonable. If you upped from 100hz to 1khz then you'd reduce it to +/1 .5 ms per minute which would get you +/-.7sec/day wo

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Keeping your clock accurate

2010-11-03 Thread Frank Bemelman
- Original Message - From: "coggs" To: "neonixie-l" Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 12:04 PM Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Keeping your clock accurate I used to use a 1 pulse/second signal from a GPS receiver for the calibration. I then wrote a calibration routine which would start a

[neonixie-l] Re: Keeping your clock accurate

2010-11-03 Thread coggs
Using a TXCO such as a DS1307 is by far the least muss and fuss. Stays accurate to within a second or two per month, which is really remarkable when you think about it. That said, any properly designed (ie stable) quartz crystal oscillator circuit should give you similar accuracy once it is calibr