Re: [neonixie-l] recommendation for anode resistor for 2x2 multiplexed IN-14s @166-170v?

2011-01-20 Thread Dieter Waechter
Ah, ok. Thanks David I have built a µC controlled muxing tester... will put all about it on my homepage soon. I can switch from direct drive with rated current to muxed, with higher current and compare the glow. That makes it easy to find out the muxing current for a tube to get approx the

[neonixie-l] Re: recommendation for anode resistor for 2x2 multiplexed IN-14s @166-170v?

2011-01-20 Thread will
On Jan 19, 11:04 pm, David Forbes dfor...@dakotacom.net wrote: On 1/19/11 9:42 PM, will wrote: I'm building a nixie clock based off of four IN-14 tubes (currently in the mail from Russia). I'm multiplexing the tubes in groups of two, if it matters much. I've read all around for

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: recommendation for anode resistor for 2x2 multiplexed IN-14s @166-170v?

2011-01-20 Thread David Forbes
On 1/20/11 10:30 AM, will wrote: Wait... sphere's nixie page says 170V and 33k. Is 180V 10k really reasonable? Also, is the purpose of the anode resistor not to decrease the voltage across the tube? Does the resistance of the tube decrease significantly when you energize it or something? What

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: recommendation for anode resistor for 2x2 multiplexed IN-14s @166-170v?

2011-01-20 Thread JohnK
Think of the tubes acting a bit like a zener diode. [Or old-time valve regulators eg VR105 ] Same principle as fluorescent light tubes too for that matter. [And the reason for the Ballast] John K. - Original Message - From: will ossumguyw...@gmail.com Does the resistance of

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: recommendation for anode resistor for 2x2 multiplexed IN-14s @166-170v?

2011-01-20 Thread Bill Lewis
On 1/20/2011 12:47 PM, JohnK wrote: Think of the tubes acting a bit like a zener diode. [Or old-time valve regulators eg VR105 ] They have a strike voltage, considerably higher than the sustaining voltage. Before they ionize and start to flow current, you need the B+ voltage at least that

[neonixie-l] Re: recommendation for anode resistor for 2x2 multiplexed IN-14s @166-170v?

2011-01-20 Thread will
Unfortunately, I've never used an old time valve regulator, a fluorescent light tube, or a zener diode. LOL. I feel so stupid when working with this kind of hardware... I'm now starting to think about it like this-if a higher value resistor is used, the current through the nixie decreases. This

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: recommendation for anode resistor for 2x2 multiplexed IN-14s @166-170v?

2011-01-20 Thread Bill Lewis
Read the initial blurb here, around page 6: http://www.neazoi.com/technology/logic/GE-lamps.pdf Bill On 1/20/2011 1:58 PM, will wrote: Unfortunately, I've never used an old time valve regulator, a fluorescent light tube, or a zener diode. LOL. I feel so stupid when working with this kind of

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: recommendation for anode resistor for 2x2 multiplexed IN-14s @166-170v?

2011-01-20 Thread Dieter Waechter
Yes, set it to 170VDC. Dieter Thanks... But again, what kind of voltage should I set the supply to? Many seemed to think that 170v was enough, but I guess not... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an

[neonixie-l] Re: recommendation for anode resistor for 2x2 multiplexed IN-14s @166-170v?

2011-01-20 Thread threeneurons
Thanks... But again, what kind of voltage should I set the supply to? Many seemed to think that 170v was enough, but I guess not... I'd go at least 180V, maybe even higher (190V-200V). For a couple of reasons. One, your muxing it. Nixies don't turn-ON instantaneously. There is some turn-ON

[neonixie-l] Re: recommendation for anode resistor for 2x2 multiplexed IN-14s @166-170v?

2011-01-20 Thread will
Good point... OK, looks like I might be increasing the voltage. Also, my A1A lamps came in the mail, I see now about the voltage holding effect. With a 100k ohm resistor it holds at about 60v, and with a 200k ohm it only drops to about 55. On Jan 20, 7:12 pm, threeneurons threeneur...@yahoo.com