Re: [neonixie-l] Erratic Harrison clock

2014-03-17 Thread Nick
Being fair, this clock was designed a long long time ago when stuff directly connected to the mains was not so frowned upon - Mike is a professional engineer and his page is covered with notes recommending that isolation transformers are used - he readily admits that today, he would never

Re: [neonixie-l] Erratic Harrison clock

2014-03-17 Thread Adam Jacobs
I can tell you that if you want to advance one of these clocks in your house hours at a time by remote control, all you need to do is work some CW in the basement. :D -Adam On 3/17/2014 2:38 AM, Nick wrote: Being fair, this clock was designed a long long time ago when stuff directly

Re: [neonixie-l] Erratic Harrison clock

2014-03-17 Thread threeneurons
Actually, there's a Microchip app note, that describes the very same technique. Personally, I don't like using it. I have a lot of respect for Mike Harrison. He's a real sharp guy, and I'm really thankful for his website ! As Nick mentioned, this is a really old design, and Mike just probably

Re: [neonixie-l] Erratic Harrison clock

2014-03-17 Thread Mike Harrison
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 07:44:03 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: Actually, there's a Microchip app note, that describes the very same technique. Personally, I don't like using it. I have a lot of respect for Mike Harrison. He's a real sharp guy, and I'm really thankful for his website ! As Nick mentioned,

Re: [neonixie-l] Erratic Harrison clock

2014-03-17 Thread Nick
On Monday, 17 March 2014 14:35:21 UTC, Adam Jacobs wrote: I can tell you that if you want to advance one of these clocks in your house hours at a time by remote control, all you need to do is work some CW in the basement. :D Now that the mains (in the UK at least) has no guaranteed

Re: [neonixie-l] Erratic Harrison clock

2014-03-17 Thread threeneurons
Yeah, toobs. I really screwed the pooch on that one, too. Didn't buy enough, when the prices where low. :o( ~1990, I started using the HC05 microcontroller. The evaluation board, which could be used as an emulator/debugger/programmer cost $500, and I thought that was a bargain price ! I had

Re: [neonixie-l] Erratic Harrison clock

2014-03-17 Thread chuck richards
Let us not forget the Dallas/Maxim DS32KHZN/DIP TXCO. That puts out a fairly accurate 32.768 kHz, guaranteed within +/- 2 ppm. For much greater accuracy, I've devised a programmable pulse-remover which shaves off a predetermined amount of pulses each hour. This, because every one of those TCXOs

Re: [neonixie-l] Erratic Harrison clock

2014-03-17 Thread Nick
On Monday, 17 March 2014 15:46:33 UTC, Chuck wrote: ... For much greater accuracy, I've devised a programmable pulse-remover which shaves off a predetermined amount of pulses each hour. This, because every one of those TCXOs I've encountered tends to run a bit fast. Essentially this

Re: [neonixie-l] Erratic Harrison clock

2014-03-17 Thread chuck richards
The way the pulse-remover works is at the end of each hour it gets triggered, which shuts off the 32.768 kHz pulses from getting to the first divider stage of the clock. A binary counter then counts out the removed pulses which are entered on an 8-bit dip switch. At the end of the counting, a

[neonixie-l] Re: Erratic Harrison clock

2014-03-17 Thread Mark Moulding
What could make one of the Mike Harrison Nixie clocks run erratically? It's basically running fast, but it also does this erratically- sometimes it looks like the seconds are counting at the proper speed, but then they will speed up...? I build clocks using an 8051, synchronized to the power

[neonixie-l] Re: Erratic Harrison clock

2014-03-17 Thread Nick
On Monday, 17 March 2014 17:29:15 UTC, Mark Moulding wrote: Microchip recommends just this type of circuit for direct off-the-line embedded products.) Just because Microchip discuss it (AN521 http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/AppNotes/00521c.pdf

[neonixie-l] Re: Erratic Harrison clock

2014-03-17 Thread gregeb...@hotmail.com
If you suspect line-noise, plug a noisy device into the socket next to the suspect clock and turn it on/off rapidly for a few minutes to see if the clock gains time. If your clock is susceptible to line-noise, it will gain time. I found that my Weller WTCPN soldering station is REALLY noisy;

[neonixie-l] EMCO HV modules

2014-03-17 Thread Terry S
Has anyone tried the EMCO AG series of HV modules in a nixie clock yet? Terry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [neonixie-l] EMCO HV modules

2014-03-17 Thread David Forbes
On 3/17/2014 12:56 PM, Terry S wrote: Has anyone tried the EMCO AG series of HV modules in a nixie clock yet? Terry Terry, Those modules do not put out enough power for a nixie clock. 7.5 mA at 200V is enough to run three tubes at most. They might work in a watch, but you'd need a 4.5V

Re: [neonixie-l] Erratic Harrison clock

2014-03-17 Thread David Forbes
On 3/17/2014 3:34 PM, Blitzen wrote: Thanks guys, I guess...I was hoping there might be a solution or something in particular to check. What I don't get is that this is the third of these that I've made, and the other two had no problems at all. In fact, I took this one and plugged it in next to

Re: [neonixie-l] EMCO HV modules

2014-03-17 Thread Terry S
Hi David, Yeah, I'm aware that it wouldn't work in a direct drive clock, seems like it might in a mux'd clock. Or maybe use a pair of them... Just wondered if anyone has experience with them. I've requested samples. No pricing info yet. Terry On Monday, March 17, 2014 3:06:09 PM UTC-5,