Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Stuck with a stuck dekatron

2022-02-23 Thread Tidak Ada
Thanks John, that is useful information! Yes, you confirm my fear. Fortunately I bought the tube as am collecting item, Eric Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone > Op 23 feb. 2022 om 23:21 heeft Jon het volgende > geschreven: > > To Eric's question on the N3... > > These are also rather

[neonixie-l] Re: Stuck with a stuck dekatron

2022-02-23 Thread Jon
To Eric's question on the N3... These are also rather tricky tubes. My experience is similar to Martin's - unfortunately many examples of N3 are non-functional in that they won't even strike a glow - outgassed or similar. I fear that if you can't raise a glow with a violet ray unit or plasma

[neonixie-l] Re: Stuck with a stuck dekatron

2022-02-23 Thread Jon
The sticking on K10 specifically is a peculiarity of the 6167 in my experience. I believe it's distinct from the sleeping sickness effect that Martin describes as that is essentially random in which cathodes are affected (and as he says, working the tube, possibly at elevated current, in both

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Stuck with a stuck dekatron

2022-02-23 Thread gregebert
When I had initial problems with my A101, I increased the steering voltage by using a larger cathode resistor and it's worked flawlessly ever since. I couldn't tell from posted scope trace what the measurement was. Also, you want to have overlapping waveforms, with no dead-time, to ensure the

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: Stuck with a stuck dekatron

2022-02-23 Thread Tidak Ada
Hi Martin, No, I was not aware, despite Giorgio is a friend of me…. Thanks for your tip and experience Eric Van: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] Namens Dekatron42 Verzonden: woensdag 23 februari 2022 13:06 Aan: neonixie-l Onderwerp: Re:

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Stuck with a stuck dekatron

2022-02-23 Thread Dekatron42
Regarding the Pressler N3, I hope you have seen the datasheet here: http://lampes-et-tubes.info/cd/N3.pdf Out of the bunch that I own of these only a few are running (and maybe half are out-gassed and some have mechanical faults like loose welds and pins rumbling around inside the envelope)

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: Stuck with a stuck dekatron

2022-02-23 Thread Tidak Ada
Hi all, Unfortunately no further info here. A guess is it a kind of cathode poisoning?? Did you already contact the TCA [ tubecollectorsassociat...@groups.io ]. They are based in the USA, so the chance is greater there is info to find. I have the same problem with a rare Pressler

[neonixie-l] Re: Stuck with a stuck dekatron

2022-02-23 Thread Dekatron42
I see this a lot in some Dekatron types/brands that have been stored for a long time, some brands have fared better while being stored compared to others and some very´seldom experience this problem. I usually just increase the current either by raising the Anode voltage or decreasing the