[neonixie-l] Re: 3000 tubes per year?

2011-07-12 Thread threeneurons
| Gentlemen- |    My name is Dylan Kehde Roelofs; I've been a scientific | glassblower for 20 years, and I believe I can answer | a few of your questions.. | | ... my website at www.incandescentsculpture.com | I've also got some stuff premiering at a show in |

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 3000 tubes per year?

2011-07-12 Thread David Forbes
(3) To minimize the electrical paths to the outside world, make the tubes biquinary: http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/045/z/ZM1030.pdf This way only 8 leads are needed, instead of 11 minimum, for a standard nixie. Good thinking! The glass wafers for 9 pin miniature tubes ought to be available

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 3000 tubes per year?

2011-07-12 Thread jb-electronics
Hi, (2) Laser cutting thin metals (0.015 to 0.080) will not impart much heat to the metal, and if its pure nickel, then any worry of the alloy being screwed up, is not an issue (?). Why not use wires, like in the old tubes? That worked, too. I.e. GA-1, GA-2, GN-1, ... (3) To minimize the

[neonixie-l] Re: 3000 tubes per year?

2011-07-10 Thread mjrippe
On Jul 10, 1:49 am, dylan roelofs doktorb...@gmail.com wrote:  The two books I refer to constantly for info are :Materials and Techniques for Electron tubes, by Walter Kohl, and -Materials and Processes of Electron Devices, by Max Knoll.  If you can find them, these two old manuals will teach

[neonixie-l] Re: 3000 tubes per year?

2011-07-09 Thread dylan roelofs
Hey All, I agree- a big pinch seal with 10 wires, and 2 'dead' wires for supports would be easiest. Pinch seals of that size are also tricky- the tube must be carefully pre-shaped for the seal; just heating the open end of a round tube causes it to slump down the middle as the glass thickens up

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 3000 tubes per year?

2011-07-08 Thread JohnK
@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 2:27 PM Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: 3000 tubes per year? Gentlemen- My name is Dylan Kehde Roelofs; I've been a scientific glassblower for 20 years, and I believe I can answer a few of your questions.. clip -- You received this message because you

[neonixie-l] Re: 3000 tubes per year?

2011-07-08 Thread Nick
On Jul 8, 5:57 am, dylan roelofs doktorb...@gmail.com wrote: Gentlemen-    My name is Dylan Kehde Roelofs; I've been a scientific glassblower for 20 years, and I believe I can answer a few of your questions.. ... Excellent summary from someone who actually knows what they are talking about -

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 3000 tubes per year?

2011-07-08 Thread jb-electronics
I concur, a remarkable summary, many thanks for that from me as well. Does anyone happen to know a book covering these topics? I would love to learn more about this. Regards Jens Am 08.07.2011 16:03, schrieb Nick: On Jul 8, 5:57 am, dylan roelofsdoktorb...@gmail.com wrote: Gentlemen-

[neonixie-l] Re: 3000 tubes per year?

2011-07-08 Thread James
How about a pinch seal with an inline row of wires? I've only ever made those with two wires, but I don't see why it would be that much more difficult to put 10+ wires through with an appropriate jig. Induction heating is easy, I built one of those a while back that I use for other things. As for

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 3000 tubes per year?

2011-07-08 Thread David Forbes
On 7/8/2011 2:20 PM, James wrote: How about a pinch seal with an inline row of wires? I've only ever made those with two wires, but I don't see why it would be that much more difficult to put 10+ wires through with an appropriate jig. Induction heating is easy, I built one of those a while back

[neonixie-l] Re: 3000 tubes per year?

2011-07-08 Thread James
On Jul 8, 2:34 pm, xdugef i...@xdugef.com wrote: I had an idea the other day which may not be possible because of the heat involved in the making of a nixie or because of the conditions inside the tube once it's filled with gas but it were possible to include an ic inside the tube then you

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 3000 tubes per year?

2011-07-07 Thread Adam Jacobs
1) The vacuum tubes that china (and sovtek) have resurrected are all power triodes. These are to fuel the desire in the music industry for tube amps (both for reproduction and for creation of music). It has long been known in the guitar industry that tube amps give a warmer sound that fuzzes

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 3000 tubes per year?

2011-07-07 Thread Quixotic Nixotic
On 7 Jul 2011, at 21:34, James wrote: I think a large Nixie tube could be produced at a similar price point and demand as some of the popular audio output tubes. I disagree. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to

[neonixie-l] Re: 3000 tubes per year?

2011-07-07 Thread neutron spin
First you must create a market through advertising your product Second..determine the potential sales from an in-depth marketing study Third...calculate the total gross sales in dollars (if possible) Fourth...go to Goldmanm Sachs or a venture capital firm and present your case along with capital

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 3000 tubes per year?

2011-07-07 Thread jb-electronics
I think we will have to forget about large volume productions. As others said it before, there simply is no market open for this kind of product. And honestly: do we want that? Every person on the world having a Nixie clock? I wouldn't like that ;-) But it also seems to me that it is quite

[neonixie-l] Re: 3000 tubes per year?

2011-07-07 Thread James
I'm not suggesting that $10 Z568M clones will be turning up any time soon, but just look at some of the stuff that comes out of China and similar places. I recently bought a brand new replacement CRT for my scope clock that came from there and it was only around 40 bucks. What uses a 3

[neonixie-l] Re: 3000 tubes per year?

2011-07-07 Thread dylan roelofs
Gentlemen- My name is Dylan Kehde Roelofs; I've been a scientific glassblower for 20 years, and I believe I can answer a few of your questions.. First, check out my website at www.incandescentsculpture.com - I haven't updated it for a few years, or put any of my new vacuum tubes on it, but I

[neonixie-l] Re: 3000 tubes per year?

2011-07-06 Thread figureloop
On Jul 5, 10:52 pm, David Forbes dfor...@dakotacom.net wrote: The total supply of the B7971 tubes was on the order of 10,000 tubes. That would be 2 or 3 years at your proposed production rate. That's interesting to know. But that tube had a very specific market too. Perhaps it was even just

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 3000 tubes per year?

2011-07-06 Thread jb-electronics
Hi, Was there ever a 60-80mm end-view Nixie made? Certainly, the CD46 / LD-669 with 74mm, followed by the Burroughs B-7011 with 72mm. And there might be some more, who knows. I feel that the nostalgic market driver would favor the vertical tube shape over end view tubes. Probably. I