[neonixie-l] Re: RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread Michel
I just want to establish some serial communication between my computer and a PIC controller. Like David mentioned, RS232 is actually +/- 10V rather than +/- 5V. The levels directly from controller are obviously only 0V and 5V. Now I am thinking, for the Rx input this is not a problem because it

[neonixie-l] Re: RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread Terry Kennedy
On Aug 24, 3:52 am, Michel mic...@xiac.com wrote: I just want to establish some serial communication between my computer and a PIC controller. Like David mentioned, RS232 is actually +/- 10V rather than +/- 5V. Actually, the standard specifies an allowable voltage range from +/- 3V to 15V,

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread JohnK
of polarity, just a change to Gnd. John K. - Original Message - From: Michel mic...@xiac.com To: neonixie-l neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 5:22 PM Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: RS232 line driver I just want to establish some serial communication between my computer

[neonixie-l] Re: RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread Michel
This one will actually do the trick and is small enough! Thanks Nigel! Michel On Aug 24, 5:50 pm, Nigel Walker dogas...@googlemail.com wrote: If you don't mind surface mount, a MAX3313e is quite small and will do the job. Nigel. - Original Message - From: Michel

[neonixie-l] Re: RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread Mark Moulding
I am after a driver like the MAX232 that has 5V levels on one side; +/- 5 on the other side and only requires a +5V supply. The MAX232 however is a 16 pin device and I am looking for something smaller (8 pins). I only need one Rx and one Tx channel. If half-duplex will work, the DS275

[neonixie-l] Re: RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread fixitsan
I've seen a lot of projects using pics and PC's, with no interface IC, i think just some resistors. The PIC has a good output current from the serial port and most importantly, the later pics have a configureation bit for the UART to send inverted data. There's a few suggestions here

[neonixie-l] Re: RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread fixitsan
A few ideas here too http://www.scienceprog.com/alternatives-of-max232-in-low-budget-projects/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group,

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread Adam Jacobs
That is a neat part, too bad that it is no longer in production. Looks like Components Direct sells them individually. http://www.componentsdirect.com/maxim-ds275-pdip-8-package-rs-232-transceiver.html I'm not sure that I would start a new design for manufacture with them, though. -Adam On

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread Dalibor Farný
The best way is to use rs232 to uart converter ($3 or so on ebay), You just plug it into pc and directly connect to rxd and txd of your MCU. This is cheap and easy solution. The converter itself uses a max232 IC to change signals from rs232 to TTL. Dalibor Farný http://dalibor.farny.cz sent from

[neonixie-l] Re: RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread Michel
That is interesting, I have to check if my PIC has this inverter bit, didn't know about that. I like that 2 transistor solution from the scienceprog website as well. I actually thought about doing something like that but I wasn't sure if you can always assume Tx is negative when idle. My eye

[neonixie-l] Re: RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread Michel
Yes, I'll give it a shot. My PIC indeed has invertable USART ports so I'm going to hook it up just like that without transistors but just a few series resistors. The cable is only short. If it doesn't work (which I doubt), I can always use that $3 ebay interface that Dalibor was talking about. I