RE: [neonixie-l] OT: audio levels

2019-04-17 Thread johnk
this OT discussion too. Regards, John K From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tomasz Kowalczyk Sent: Thursday, 18 April 2019 04:04 To: neonixie-l Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] OT: audio levels W dniu wtorek, 16 kwietnia 2019 15:57:35 UTC+2

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: audio levels

2019-04-17 Thread Tomasz Kowalczyk
W dniu wtorek, 16 kwietnia 2019 15:57:35 UTC+2 użytkownik johnk napisał: > > Well, how do I say this Thomas? > > It is NOT to be called Watts RMS ! > > They left the vital word out – it is Watts [RMS derived]. They left out > “derived”. > > > > The RMS volts and RMS amps that you mention when

RE: [neonixie-l] OT: audio levels

2019-04-16 Thread johnk
: [neonixie-l] OT: audio levels W dniu piątek, 29 marca 2019 08:46:37 UTC+1 użytkownik charles napisał: On 2019-03-28 10:09 p.m., johnk wrote: based on teh RMS output (.707 of the peak) That would be 0,707 (1/sqrt(2)) voltage output on a resistive load. RMS power of a sine wave is 0,5 times

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: audio levels

2019-04-16 Thread Tomasz Kowalczyk
W dniu piątek, 29 marca 2019 08:46:37 UTC+1 użytkownik charles napisał: > > On 2019-03-28 10:09 p.m., johnk wrote: > > the FTC in the States started cracking down and said that any power > claims had to be based on teh RMS output (.707 of the peak) using a sine > wave with Specified

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: audio levels

2019-04-16 Thread Tomasz Kowalczyk
W dniu piątek, 29 marca 2019 08:46:37 UTC+1 użytkownik charles napisał: > > On 2019-03-28 10:09 p.m., johnk wrote: > based on teh RMS output (.707 of the peak) > That would be 0,707 (1/sqrt(2)) voltage output on a resistive load. RMS power of a sine wave is 0,5 times peak power. I like to

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: audio levels

2019-03-29 Thread Charles MacDonald
On 2019-03-28 10:09 p.m., johnk wrote: An aside: now that we are talking audio, I would love to get an argument going about Watts RMS ! I say this: the watts specified for an amplifier output are intended to be average power and not rms power. Any takers? I do recall that the merchants

RE: [neonixie-l] OT: audio levels

2019-03-28 Thread johnk
s way. Even the respected name companies use the W RMS term. So, how can I be right? John K Australia -Original Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jb-electronics Sent: Friday, 29 March 2019 03:09 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subje

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: audio levels

2019-03-28 Thread jb-electronics
Hi David, hi John, Thank you very much for your help! I am not trying to build a professional VU meter; rather, what I want is to create a microcontroller-based LM3916 alternative. These are now obsolete LED bar driver ICs with a logarithmic output that are quite handy for building a simple

RE: [neonixie-l] OT: audio levels

2019-03-28 Thread johnk
Hey Jens... 1). Don't call it VU unless you match the actual ballistics of the ORIGINAL VU meter 2). Europe tends to use a PPM [quasi-peak] system. Peak Program Meter. 3). Consumer and pro levels are very different. They are often misunderstood and hence mounds of garbage appear on the web.

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: audio levels

2019-03-27 Thread David Forbes
Expect 0.1 to 1V peak-peak, depending on volume. On Wed, Mar 27, 2019, 6:11 PM jb-electronics wrote: > Hello Nixie friends, > > I am thinking of building a simple all-in-one VU meter using a > microcontroller to visualize the audio signal on a headphone line (say, > I feed the headphone output