Re: [neonixie-l] Re: US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-30 Thread John Rehwinkel
The vast majority of line powered clocks use the grid frequency for timing, both analog and digital. It's great because I can set all the clocks and they all stay exactly in sync with one another. Oh, they still will. They'll just all be wrong. - John -- You received this message because

[neonixie-l] Re: now a full 7179 clock from the same seller, check out those tubes

2011-06-30 Thread Nick
On Jun 30, 8:53 am, JohnK yend...@internode.on.net wrote: Generally, old electrolytic caps that have just been allowed to sit can be re-formed and henceforth operate properly. That's a bit of a sweeping statement. Of the kit I've rebuilt, the electrolytics have typically dried out, and thus

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: now a full 7179 clock from the same seller, check out those tubes

2011-06-30 Thread Tidak Ada
Isn't it that electrocaps that ar strongly over rated in working voltage, wear out sooner as caps that are working close below the max voltage? This due to electrochemical degradation of the electrolytic dielectrum. Actualy the same as due to long storage. eric -Original Message- From:

[neonixie-l] Re: now a full 7179 clock from the same seller, check out those tubes

2011-06-30 Thread threeneurons
| I have had more trouble with 'modern' caps. ... | | Speaking of modern - a capacitor characteristic often overlooked in current | times is the manufacturer specified operating voltage RANGE. Using a cap | well below the marked voltage causes it to do two things; lose capacitance | and also

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: now a full 7179 clock from the same seller, check out those tubes

2011-06-30 Thread JohnK
Depends on def of 'old-timer' - I am 60 :-) The caps I mentioned caused probs in mid1990s . The life-vs-volts was available in the manufacturer data that the Lab used. Often very detailed spec sheets were sourced from the manufacturers. And capacitor purchases were in the millions - promoted

Re: [neonixie-l] old caps in old stuff

2011-06-30 Thread Adam Jacobs
This is a perspective that I'm very familiar with and it is a popular one on the Swan users list. I think it has to do with the preferred end-result: 1) A restoration or 2) A fix My first HF rig was a Swan 500c that was given to me broken about a year ago. My only previous experience with

[neonixie-l] Re: now a full 7179 clock from the same seller, check out those tubes

2011-06-30 Thread neutron spin
From what I have heard that electrolytic capacitor chemical ingredients are treated like the Holy Grail by the capacitor manufacturers. The formulations are protected since this can make or break a manufacturer. The voltage and capacitance of course is determined by the chemical composition of

[neonixie-l] Re: US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-30 Thread A.J. Franzman
On Jun 30, 1:01 am, JohnK yend...@internode.on.net wrote: - Original Message - Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: US power grid frequency tests. The vast majority of line powered clocks use the grid frequency for timing, All this talk of line frequency reminds me of when we attached a

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-30 Thread David Forbes
On 6/30/11 8:25 PM, A.J. Franzman wrote: All this talk of line frequency reminds me of when we attached a 'powerful' audio sig gen to the lecture room clock back in 1968. Got us 10 mins less boredom. I always wondered just how it was done, and the size of the hardware that would be required.

[neonixie-l] Looking for Clock kit for ZM1050 Tubes

2011-06-30 Thread amerenue04
Howdy Group! Didnt realize the yahoo group closed. Glad to be back here. I would like to make a clock using ZM1050 tubes, can anyone help with a kit of know of any that would work for sale. I also need for sockets for ZM1050 tubes. Thanks in advance! -- You received this message because you are

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-30 Thread Wayne de Geere III
You must be a real phone fan to know that proper ring generation is at 20Hz, I'm impressed! On 2011 Jun 30, at 20:34 , David Forbes wrote: I used to own an HP 201B audio signal generator. It was powerful enough to ring a telephone bell, providing 100V RMS at 20 Hz. -- You received this

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-30 Thread David Forbes
On 6/30/11 9:30 PM, Wayne de Geere III wrote: You must be a real phone fan to know that proper ring generation is at 20Hz, I'm impressed! On 2011 Jun 30, at 20:34 , David Forbes wrote: I used to own an HP 201B audio signal generator. It was powerful enough to ring a telephone bell,