[neonixie-l] Help with upgrading my soldering iron

2014-02-17 Thread Oscilloclock
A few years back I invested in a Hozan HS-51. I've never used any other 
soldering station before so can't offer a comparison, but there are two things 
I LOVE about this unit, and absolutely nothing I dislike!

1. You can change the tips on the fly - quite literally hot-swappable! There is 
a pusher thingy that slides the tip out, and you can then pop the other tip in. 
Incredibly useful when you're soldering SMDs and then need to solder larger 
components to the board or do some cabling work.
2. The tips never die... I've used the same tips on all my projects since the 
Model 1 in 2009 and they just don't wear down. I leave the thing on for hours 
at a time. It sleeps at 200 degrees and wakes instantly when needed. And even 
the lead-free soldering I trialed in the Model 1, with 420-450 degree 
temperatures, didn't  wreck the tips in the least.

http://www.hozan.co.jp/E/catalog/Soldering/HS51.html

But I don't know if Hozan is very common outside Japan, where it sells for 
around US$230.

Aaron

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Re: [neonixie-l] Help with upgrading my soldering iron

2014-02-17 Thread David Forbes
I used to use a Hakko 936ESD until last year, when I got a used Metcal 
from ebay. The 936 has a knob instead of those dumb buttons. but it's 
discontinued.


The Hakko is fine, unless you need to change tips frequently.

The Metcal is the best soldering iron you can get.



On 2/16/14 11:12 AM, blkadder wrote:

Greetings All,

I am hoping you can help me make a decision.  I have been using my Radio
Shack 25w soldering iron for a few years now, and it is time to upgrade.  I
have been scouring boards and other Interwebz sites, and I think I have
narrowed it down to two.

Here are the ones I am looking at:

Hakko FX888D digital soldering 
stationhttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AWUFVY8/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8colid=3VUV96XRTQWGXcoliid=I1NQBCOEOQSSAF

Aoyue 968A SMD Digital Rework 
Stationhttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B006FA481G/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8colid=3VUV96XRTQWGXcoliid=I348QKU3RA8ENW

I have been looking at the Hakko for a while now, but then I found the
Aoyue setup for not a lot more money than the Hakko.  I am curious if
anyone out there has any experience with either of these, and maybe give me
a bit of insight.  If you have suggestions for something else, that would
be okay too.

Thanks for any insight you guys might be able to provide.

Ron

...Semper Fidelis...




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Re: [neonixie-l] Help with upgrading my soldering iron

2014-02-17 Thread Dan Hollis
For the price, a hakko is an excellent value, and lightyears better than a 
radio shack iron.


Metcal are extremely expensive, I was never able to justify the cost when 
the hakko does so well.


-Dan

On Mon, 17 Feb 2014, David Forbes wrote:

I used to use a Hakko 936ESD until last year, when I got a used Metcal from 
ebay. The 936 has a knob instead of those dumb buttons. but it's 
discontinued.


The Hakko is fine, unless you need to change tips frequently.

The Metcal is the best soldering iron you can get.



On 2/16/14 11:12 AM, blkadder wrote:

Greetings All,

I am hoping you can help me make a decision.  I have been using my Radio
Shack 25w soldering iron for a few years now, and it is time to upgrade.  I
have been scouring boards and other Interwebz sites, and I think I have
narrowed it down to two.

Here are the ones I am looking at:

Hakko FX888D digital soldering 
stationhttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AWUFVY8/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8colid=3VUV96XRTQWGXcoliid=I1NQBCOEOQSSAF


Aoyue 968A SMD Digital Rework 
Stationhttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B006FA481G/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8colid=3VUV96XRTQWGXcoliid=I348QKU3RA8ENW


I have been looking at the Hakko for a while now, but then I found the
Aoyue setup for not a lot more money than the Hakko.  I am curious if
anyone out there has any experience with either of these, and maybe give me
a bit of insight.  If you have suggestions for something else, that would
be okay too.

Thanks for any insight you guys might be able to provide.

Ron

...Semper Fidelis...




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Re: [neonixie-l] Help with upgrading my soldering iron

2014-02-17 Thread Adam Jacobs
It really depends on what you're doing as far as if a metcal would be 
worth it or not... but I'm thinking that if you have to ask for 
recommendations then you don't need one.
  I'm a real fan of Weller soldering irons. I've had a blue handled 
Weller for nearly my whole life and it never steered me wrong.


-Adam

On 2/17/2014 10:23 AM, Dan Hollis wrote:
For the price, a hakko is an excellent value, and lightyears better 
than a radio shack iron.


Metcal are extremely expensive, I was never able to justify the cost 
when the hakko does so well.


-Dan

On Mon, 17 Feb 2014, David Forbes wrote:

I used to use a Hakko 936ESD until last year, when I got a used 
Metcal from ebay. The 936 has a knob instead of those dumb buttons. 
but it's discontinued.


The Hakko is fine, unless you need to change tips frequently.

The Metcal is the best soldering iron you can get.



On 2/16/14 11:12 AM, blkadder wrote:

Greetings All,

I am hoping you can help me make a decision.  I have been using my 
Radio
Shack 25w soldering iron for a few years now, and it is time to 
upgrade.  I

have been scouring boards and other Interwebz sites, and I think I have
narrowed it down to two.

Here are the ones I am looking at:

Hakko FX888D digital soldering 
stationhttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AWUFVY8/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8colid=3VUV96XRTQWGXcoliid=I1NQBCOEOQSSAF


Aoyue 968A SMD Digital Rework 
Stationhttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B006FA481G/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8colid=3VUV96XRTQWGXcoliid=I348QKU3RA8ENW


I have been looking at the Hakko for a while now, but then I found the
Aoyue setup for not a lot more money than the Hakko.  I am curious if
anyone out there has any experience with either of these, and maybe 
give me
a bit of insight.  If you have suggestions for something else, that 
would

be okay too.

Thanks for any insight you guys might be able to provide.

Ron

...Semper Fidelis...




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RE: [neonixie-l] Help with upgrading my soldering iron

2014-02-17 Thread Tidak Ada
What I am missing so much in this discussion are the soldering stations from
Weller (Not the red ones) and Pace. 

eric

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Sent: maandag 17 februari 2014 19:54
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Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Help with upgrading my soldering iron

It really depends on what you're doing as far as if a metcal would be worth
it or not... but I'm thinking that if you have to ask for recommendations
then you don't need one.
   I'm a real fan of Weller soldering irons. I've had a blue handled Weller
for nearly my whole life and it never steered me wrong.

-Adam

On 2/17/2014 10:23 AM, Dan Hollis wrote:
 For the price, a hakko is an excellent value, and lightyears better 
 than a radio shack iron.

 Metcal are extremely expensive, I was never able to justify the cost 
 when the hakko does so well.

 -Dan

 On Mon, 17 Feb 2014, David Forbes wrote:

 I used to use a Hakko 936ESD until last year, when I got a used 
 Metcal from ebay. The 936 has a knob instead of those dumb buttons.
 but it's discontinued.

 The Hakko is fine, unless you need to change tips frequently.

 The Metcal is the best soldering iron you can get.



 On 2/16/14 11:12 AM, blkadder wrote:
 Greetings All,

 I am hoping you can help me make a decision.  I have been using my 
 Radio Shack 25w soldering iron for a few years now, and it is time 
 to upgrade.  I have been scouring boards and other Interwebz sites, 
 and I think I have narrowed it down to two.

 Here are the ones I am looking at:

 Hakko FX888D digital soldering
 stationhttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AWUFVY8/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl
 ?_encoding=UTF8colid=3VUV96XRTQWGXcoliid=I1NQBCOEOQSSAF

 Aoyue 968A SMD Digital Rework
 Stationhttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B006FA481G/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl
 ?_encoding=UTF8colid=3VUV96XRTQWGXcoliid=I348QKU3RA8ENW

 I have been looking at the Hakko for a while now, but then I found 
 the Aoyue setup for not a lot more money than the Hakko.  I am 
 curious if anyone out there has any experience with either of these, 
 and maybe give me a bit of insight.  If you have suggestions for 
 something else, that would be okay too.

 Thanks for any insight you guys might be able to provide.

 Ron

 ...Semper Fidelis...



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Re: [neonixie-l] Help with upgrading my soldering iron

2014-02-17 Thread Dan Harboe Burer

OK, I can contribute with some Weller experience..

If you have enough money I can recommend the Weller WX2 station.. it is a 
heavy brute with two outputs..
It can power a 200W iron when only using one output.. or a nice allround 
iron or two (or a SMT tweezer) ;)
The tips are not cheap though... because when you swap the tip the heating 
element is a part of the tip!
IMHO it is a very versatile station.. it can solder anything from SMT to 
busbars..


And yes I actually have one here at home! (Also the 200W iron.. )

The WD1 predecessor I also can recommend..  the same tips are used as for 
the WX2. I sold mine to a friend who makes model ships (he solders anything 
from electronics to brass fittings for his ship) and he loves it..


Not cheap stations but I like them..

Oh, and they also switch off when not used and heat up (almost if not 
quite ) as fast as a Metcal...


I once had a Metcal too - and can also recommend those..
..
Pace.. I have a MBT desoldering station with built-in vacuumm pump.. it is a 
great tool too :)  A bit annoying with the screw to replace tip but OK it 
works.


Dan


-Oprindelig meddelelse- 
From: Tidak Ada

Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 9:28 PM
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [neonixie-l] Help with upgrading my soldering iron

What I am missing so much in this discussion are the soldering stations from
Weller (Not the red ones) and Pace.

eric

-Original Message-
From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Adam Jacobs
Sent: maandag 17 februari 2014 19:54
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Help with upgrading my soldering iron

It really depends on what you're doing as far as if a metcal would be worth
it or not... but I'm thinking that if you have to ask for recommendations
then you don't need one.
  I'm a real fan of Weller soldering irons. I've had a blue handled Weller
for nearly my whole life and it never steered me wrong.

-Adam

On 2/17/2014 10:23 AM, Dan Hollis wrote:

For the price, a hakko is an excellent value, and lightyears better
than a radio shack iron.

Metcal are extremely expensive, I was never able to justify the cost
when the hakko does so well.

-Dan

On Mon, 17 Feb 2014, David Forbes wrote:


I used to use a Hakko 936ESD until last year, when I got a used
Metcal from ebay. The 936 has a knob instead of those dumb buttons.
but it's discontinued.

The Hakko is fine, unless you need to change tips frequently.

The Metcal is the best soldering iron you can get.



On 2/16/14 11:12 AM, blkadder wrote:

Greetings All,

I am hoping you can help me make a decision.  I have been using my
Radio Shack 25w soldering iron for a few years now, and it is time
to upgrade.  I have been scouring boards and other Interwebz sites,
and I think I have narrowed it down to two.

Here are the ones I am looking at:

Hakko FX888D digital soldering
stationhttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AWUFVY8/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl
?_encoding=UTF8colid=3VUV96XRTQWGXcoliid=I1NQBCOEOQSSAF

Aoyue 968A SMD Digital Rework
Stationhttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B006FA481G/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl
?_encoding=UTF8colid=3VUV96XRTQWGXcoliid=I348QKU3RA8ENW

I have been looking at the Hakko for a while now, but then I found
the Aoyue setup for not a lot more money than the Hakko.  I am
curious if anyone out there has any experience with either of these,
and maybe give me a bit of insight.  If you have suggestions for
something else, that would be okay too.

Thanks for any insight you guys might be able to provide.

Ron

...Semper Fidelis...




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