[neonixie-l] Help with upgrading my soldering iron
A few years back I invested in a Hozan HS-51. I've never used any other soldering station before so can't offer a comparison, but there are two things I LOVE about this unit, and absolutely nothing I dislike! 1. You can change the tips on the fly - quite literally hot-swappable! There is a pusher thingy that slides the tip out, and you can then pop the other tip in. Incredibly useful when you're soldering SMDs and then need to solder larger components to the board or do some cabling work. 2. The tips never die... I've used the same tips on all my projects since the Model 1 in 2009 and they just don't wear down. I leave the thing on for hours at a time. It sleeps at 200 degrees and wakes instantly when needed. And even the lead-free soldering I trialed in the Model 1, with 420-450 degree temperatures, didn't wreck the tips in the least. http://www.hozan.co.jp/E/catalog/Soldering/HS51.html But I don't know if Hozan is very common outside Japan, where it sells for around US$230. Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/597519ba-79bd-456a-b605-58071801fb25%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Help with upgrading my soldering iron
I used to use a Hakko 936ESD until last year, when I got a used Metcal from ebay. The 936 has a knob instead of those dumb buttons. but it's discontinued. The Hakko is fine, unless you need to change tips frequently. The Metcal is the best soldering iron you can get. On 2/16/14 11:12 AM, blkadder wrote: Greetings All, I am hoping you can help me make a decision. I have been using my Radio Shack 25w soldering iron for a few years now, and it is time to upgrade. I have been scouring boards and other Interwebz sites, and I think I have narrowed it down to two. Here are the ones I am looking at: Hakko FX888D digital soldering stationhttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AWUFVY8/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8colid=3VUV96XRTQWGXcoliid=I1NQBCOEOQSSAF Aoyue 968A SMD Digital Rework Stationhttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B006FA481G/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8colid=3VUV96XRTQWGXcoliid=I348QKU3RA8ENW I have been looking at the Hakko for a while now, but then I found the Aoyue setup for not a lot more money than the Hakko. I am curious if anyone out there has any experience with either of these, and maybe give me a bit of insight. If you have suggestions for something else, that would be okay too. Thanks for any insight you guys might be able to provide. Ron ...Semper Fidelis... -- David Forbes, Tucson AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/530244FA.3030908%40dakotacom.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Help with upgrading my soldering iron
For the price, a hakko is an excellent value, and lightyears better than a radio shack iron. Metcal are extremely expensive, I was never able to justify the cost when the hakko does so well. -Dan On Mon, 17 Feb 2014, David Forbes wrote: I used to use a Hakko 936ESD until last year, when I got a used Metcal from ebay. The 936 has a knob instead of those dumb buttons. but it's discontinued. The Hakko is fine, unless you need to change tips frequently. The Metcal is the best soldering iron you can get. On 2/16/14 11:12 AM, blkadder wrote: Greetings All, I am hoping you can help me make a decision. I have been using my Radio Shack 25w soldering iron for a few years now, and it is time to upgrade. I have been scouring boards and other Interwebz sites, and I think I have narrowed it down to two. Here are the ones I am looking at: Hakko FX888D digital soldering stationhttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AWUFVY8/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8colid=3VUV96XRTQWGXcoliid=I1NQBCOEOQSSAF Aoyue 968A SMD Digital Rework Stationhttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B006FA481G/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8colid=3VUV96XRTQWGXcoliid=I348QKU3RA8ENW I have been looking at the Hakko for a while now, but then I found the Aoyue setup for not a lot more money than the Hakko. I am curious if anyone out there has any experience with either of these, and maybe give me a bit of insight. If you have suggestions for something else, that would be okay too. Thanks for any insight you guys might be able to provide. Ron ...Semper Fidelis... -- David Forbes, Tucson AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/530244FA.3030908%40dakotacom.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/Pine.LNX.4.64.1402171022110.12811%40sasami.anime.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Help with upgrading my soldering iron
It really depends on what you're doing as far as if a metcal would be worth it or not... but I'm thinking that if you have to ask for recommendations then you don't need one. I'm a real fan of Weller soldering irons. I've had a blue handled Weller for nearly my whole life and it never steered me wrong. -Adam On 2/17/2014 10:23 AM, Dan Hollis wrote: For the price, a hakko is an excellent value, and lightyears better than a radio shack iron. Metcal are extremely expensive, I was never able to justify the cost when the hakko does so well. -Dan On Mon, 17 Feb 2014, David Forbes wrote: I used to use a Hakko 936ESD until last year, when I got a used Metcal from ebay. The 936 has a knob instead of those dumb buttons. but it's discontinued. The Hakko is fine, unless you need to change tips frequently. The Metcal is the best soldering iron you can get. On 2/16/14 11:12 AM, blkadder wrote: Greetings All, I am hoping you can help me make a decision. I have been using my Radio Shack 25w soldering iron for a few years now, and it is time to upgrade. I have been scouring boards and other Interwebz sites, and I think I have narrowed it down to two. Here are the ones I am looking at: Hakko FX888D digital soldering stationhttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AWUFVY8/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8colid=3VUV96XRTQWGXcoliid=I1NQBCOEOQSSAF Aoyue 968A SMD Digital Rework Stationhttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B006FA481G/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8colid=3VUV96XRTQWGXcoliid=I348QKU3RA8ENW I have been looking at the Hakko for a while now, but then I found the Aoyue setup for not a lot more money than the Hakko. I am curious if anyone out there has any experience with either of these, and maybe give me a bit of insight. If you have suggestions for something else, that would be okay too. Thanks for any insight you guys might be able to provide. Ron ...Semper Fidelis... -- David Forbes, Tucson AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/530244FA.3030908%40dakotacom.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/53025ACE.107%40gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [neonixie-l] Help with upgrading my soldering iron
What I am missing so much in this discussion are the soldering stations from Weller (Not the red ones) and Pace. eric -Original Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Adam Jacobs Sent: maandag 17 februari 2014 19:54 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Help with upgrading my soldering iron It really depends on what you're doing as far as if a metcal would be worth it or not... but I'm thinking that if you have to ask for recommendations then you don't need one. I'm a real fan of Weller soldering irons. I've had a blue handled Weller for nearly my whole life and it never steered me wrong. -Adam On 2/17/2014 10:23 AM, Dan Hollis wrote: For the price, a hakko is an excellent value, and lightyears better than a radio shack iron. Metcal are extremely expensive, I was never able to justify the cost when the hakko does so well. -Dan On Mon, 17 Feb 2014, David Forbes wrote: I used to use a Hakko 936ESD until last year, when I got a used Metcal from ebay. The 936 has a knob instead of those dumb buttons. but it's discontinued. The Hakko is fine, unless you need to change tips frequently. The Metcal is the best soldering iron you can get. On 2/16/14 11:12 AM, blkadder wrote: Greetings All, I am hoping you can help me make a decision. I have been using my Radio Shack 25w soldering iron for a few years now, and it is time to upgrade. I have been scouring boards and other Interwebz sites, and I think I have narrowed it down to two. Here are the ones I am looking at: Hakko FX888D digital soldering stationhttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AWUFVY8/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl ?_encoding=UTF8colid=3VUV96XRTQWGXcoliid=I1NQBCOEOQSSAF Aoyue 968A SMD Digital Rework Stationhttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B006FA481G/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl ?_encoding=UTF8colid=3VUV96XRTQWGXcoliid=I348QKU3RA8ENW I have been looking at the Hakko for a while now, but then I found the Aoyue setup for not a lot more money than the Hakko. I am curious if anyone out there has any experience with either of these, and maybe give me a bit of insight. If you have suggestions for something else, that would be okay too. Thanks for any insight you guys might be able to provide. Ron ...Semper Fidelis... -- David Forbes, Tucson AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/530244FA.3030908%40dakotacom.ne t. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/53025ACE.107%40gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/!%26!AAAYAPDddShx705MuX20yCpp0vvCgAAAEFY6tRk5vWNOvtkuTAej350BAA%3D%3D%40zeelandnet.nl. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Help with upgrading my soldering iron
OK, I can contribute with some Weller experience.. If you have enough money I can recommend the Weller WX2 station.. it is a heavy brute with two outputs.. It can power a 200W iron when only using one output.. or a nice allround iron or two (or a SMT tweezer) ;) The tips are not cheap though... because when you swap the tip the heating element is a part of the tip! IMHO it is a very versatile station.. it can solder anything from SMT to busbars.. And yes I actually have one here at home! (Also the 200W iron.. ) The WD1 predecessor I also can recommend.. the same tips are used as for the WX2. I sold mine to a friend who makes model ships (he solders anything from electronics to brass fittings for his ship) and he loves it.. Not cheap stations but I like them.. Oh, and they also switch off when not used and heat up (almost if not quite ) as fast as a Metcal... I once had a Metcal too - and can also recommend those.. .. Pace.. I have a MBT desoldering station with built-in vacuumm pump.. it is a great tool too :) A bit annoying with the screw to replace tip but OK it works. Dan -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Tidak Ada Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 9:28 PM To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [neonixie-l] Help with upgrading my soldering iron What I am missing so much in this discussion are the soldering stations from Weller (Not the red ones) and Pace. eric -Original Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Adam Jacobs Sent: maandag 17 februari 2014 19:54 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Help with upgrading my soldering iron It really depends on what you're doing as far as if a metcal would be worth it or not... but I'm thinking that if you have to ask for recommendations then you don't need one. I'm a real fan of Weller soldering irons. I've had a blue handled Weller for nearly my whole life and it never steered me wrong. -Adam On 2/17/2014 10:23 AM, Dan Hollis wrote: For the price, a hakko is an excellent value, and lightyears better than a radio shack iron. Metcal are extremely expensive, I was never able to justify the cost when the hakko does so well. -Dan On Mon, 17 Feb 2014, David Forbes wrote: I used to use a Hakko 936ESD until last year, when I got a used Metcal from ebay. The 936 has a knob instead of those dumb buttons. but it's discontinued. The Hakko is fine, unless you need to change tips frequently. The Metcal is the best soldering iron you can get. On 2/16/14 11:12 AM, blkadder wrote: Greetings All, I am hoping you can help me make a decision. I have been using my Radio Shack 25w soldering iron for a few years now, and it is time to upgrade. I have been scouring boards and other Interwebz sites, and I think I have narrowed it down to two. Here are the ones I am looking at: Hakko FX888D digital soldering stationhttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AWUFVY8/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl ?_encoding=UTF8colid=3VUV96XRTQWGXcoliid=I1NQBCOEOQSSAF Aoyue 968A SMD Digital Rework Stationhttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B006FA481G/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl ?_encoding=UTF8colid=3VUV96XRTQWGXcoliid=I348QKU3RA8ENW I have been looking at the Hakko for a while now, but then I found the Aoyue setup for not a lot more money than the Hakko. I am curious if anyone out there has any experience with either of these, and maybe give me a bit of insight. If you have suggestions for something else, that would be okay too. Thanks for any insight you guys might be able to provide. Ron ...Semper Fidelis... -- David Forbes, Tucson AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/530244FA.3030908%40dakotacom.ne t. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/53025ACE.107%40gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit