Re: [neonixie-l] Re: LIXIE DISPLAYS

2017-06-21 Thread gregebert
On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 5:52:10 PM UTC-7, johnk wrote:
>
>  
> "In case you're wondering, I have thought of 3D printing a mechanical 
> gear-clock but I have not yet figured out how I want to put nixies in 
> it"
>  
> Well, how about using up a bunch of dud Nixies? Use ones with faulty 
> digits and just rotate [carousel arrangement] a working one into position 
> depending on the digit required.
>  
> :-)
>  
>  
> John K.
>
>
AHA!   That's what I could do with my IN-1'suntil now, the only 
useful purpose I could find for them was putting them into a microwave oven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYUMy0P560k
 

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: LIXIE DISPLAYS

2017-06-21 Thread JohnK

"In case you're wondering, I have thought of 3D printing a mechanical 
gear-clock but I have not yet figured out how I want to put nixies in 
it"

Well, how about using up a bunch of dud Nixies? Use ones with faulty digits and 
just rotate [carousel arrangement] a working one into position depending on the 
digit required.

:-)


John K.


  - Original Message - 
  From: gregebert 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 4:47 AM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: LIXIE DISPLAYS


  It was a set of 4 stepper relays. Emphasis on past tense; poor old clock was 
likely sent to the landfill about 12 years ago. I abandoned it in my previous 
cubicle.
  Even though it was the first clock I ever designed, the sentimental value was 
drowned-out by it's unreliability.



  The actuator was fine, made a nice ka-chunk.  I got a lot of curious looks 
from nearby cube-mates when the time rolled-over at the top-of-the-hour.


  Many attempts to clean the contacts, but only got a few weeks of operation 
before failing again.
  Also, the bulb-connections were flaky. Apparently the vibration from the 
ka-chunking would jar a bulb loose.
  Or was it an irritated cube-neighbor that came by and kicked it a few times, 
in hopes of shutting it up? I'll never know.







  In case you're wondering, I have thought of 3D printing a mechanical 
gear-clock but I have not yet figured out how I want to put nixies in it

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: LIXIE DISPLAYS

2017-06-21 Thread gregebert
It *was* a set of 4 stepper relays. Emphasis on past tense; poor old clock 
was likely sent to the landfill about 12 years ago. I abandoned it in my 
previous cubicle.
Even though it was the first clock I ever designed, the sentimental value 
was drowned-out by it's unreliability.

The actuator was fine, made a nice ka-chunk.  I got a lot of curious looks 
from nearby cube-mates when the time rolled-over at the top-of-the-hour.

Many attempts to clean the contacts, but only got a few weeks of operation 
before failing again.
Also, the bulb-connections were flaky. Apparently the vibration from the 
ka-chunking would jar a bulb loose.
Or was it an irritated cube-neighbor that came by and kicked it a few 
times, in hopes of shutting it up? I'll never know.



In case you're wondering, I have thought of 3D printing a mechanical 
gear-clock but I have not yet figured out how I want to put nixies in 
it

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: LIXIE DISPLAYS

2017-06-21 Thread JohnK
There are "tricks" to cleaning ordinary relay contacts, but I am assuming that 
you mean the stepper relays here?
Stepper relays are usually exceedingly reliable right to the point where the 
contacting metal is worn away. There is a caveat though - the voltage needs to 
be high  (eg 48V)  and the current preferrably in the multi-mA plus region.  
Steppers don't have that awful problem of having enough contact pressure at the 
de-energised position [which pressure then affects the field required for the 
enrgised state]. Wiping too of course.
Unless you mean you had problems with the actuator?

[I can tell horror stories from the 60s and 70s].

John K
Australia

  - Original Message - 
  From: gregebert 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 11:05 PM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: LIXIE DISPLAYS


  Years ago I had a digital voltmeter that used these displays, and used 
stepper relays for the "logic".  I turned it into a clock.


  The displays were OK, I prefer nixies. Having LEDs, with the ability to 
control the brightness of individual digits would be a big improvement.
  There rearmost digits will be dimmer because they have to transmit thru more 
obstacles; making them progressively brighter should solve that issue.
  Also, the displays shown on the website were manufactured with much better 
materials and precision than what I had from ~1960.


  I eventually abandoned this clock because the relays were intermittent and 
would not respond to cleaning attempts.

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: A Couple of Oddities

2017-06-21 Thread JohnK
Have a look at Jeremy's beaut pages
http://www.tubecollector.org/exhibits.php?cat=33


John K
Australia.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Roddy Scott 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 1:55 AM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: A Couple of Oddities


  The VS10Gs are Ericsson and the CV2223s are mostly STC.

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[neonixie-l] Re: A Couple of Oddities

2017-06-21 Thread Roddy Scott
The VS10Gs are Ericsson and the CV2223s are mostly STC.

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[neonixie-l] A Couple of Oddities

2017-06-21 Thread Roddy Scott
Would any one have interest in some NOS VS10G / CV5290 Trochotrons or some 
CV2223 Nomotrons?

I have been offered a handful of each before they go for sale publicly.

I would not have a clue what to do with them,

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