Re: [neonixie-l] Another Tube Hobby Failure

2019-04-07 Thread Bill Notfaded
You mean the smaller Taylor supply won't fit??? I'd find a way to squeezed John's in there. ;^} -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [neonixie-l] Another Tube Hobby Failure

2019-04-07 Thread gregebert
#1 Make sure you are purchasing new units from a reputable supplier; there are fake parts out there that are poor quality. Never re-use salvaged electrolytics. #2 Heat will shorten the life of any electrolytic; it only takes a few well-placed vent holes to keep things cool. #3 Not all

Re: [neonixie-l] Another Tube Hobby Failure

2019-04-07 Thread Roger Brinkman
This is the Multilayer Ceramic Capacitor I had in mind in my suggestion earlier in the thread, datasheet impedance looks suitable, and I suspect its life will be much longer than an electrolytic. Even though it’s an SMD part, it should be able to easily be soldered in place of the electro. I’m

Re: [neonixie-l] Another Tube Hobby Failure

2019-04-07 Thread MichaelB
I used a Lelon (the new Xicon) 1uf 350V 85° C vs. the 1uf 250V that's recommended. On Saturday, April 6, 2019 at 6:59:51 PM UTC-7, Terry Bowman wrote: > > > On Apr 6, 2019, at 9:36 PM, MichaelB > > wrote: > > I used a higher voltage capacity electrolytic this time, maybe I’ll > this'll give me

Re: [neonixie-l] Another Tube Hobby Failure

2019-04-07 Thread MichaelB
ithic solid > caps. One I fixed had only 2uF though iirc. A pity that opamp capacitor > multipliers don’t store energy J . > > > > John K > > Australia > > *From:* neoni...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > neoni...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *MichaelB > *Sent

Re: [neonixie-l] Another Tube Hobby Failure

2019-04-07 Thread MichaelB
I've actually thought about wiring in a Taylor supply, but space is a bit of an issue -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [neonixie-l] Another Tube Hobby Failure

2019-04-07 Thread Paul Andrews
The short lifetime ratings of electrolytics have always worried me. 8,000 hours? That’s about 1 year, though that is at rated operating conditions. This article discusses dressing of lifespan:

Re: [neonixie-l] Another Tube Hobby Failure

2019-04-07 Thread David Pye
Couldn't you wire in a small HV PSU module instead, and bypass the circuitry for that one? Not sure that it would necessarily have a better lifespan (depending on who made it...) David On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 at 05:31, MichaelB wrote: > You've described my experience with this clock to a "T". If I

RE: [neonixie-l] Another Tube Hobby Failure

2019-04-06 Thread johnk
. John K Australia From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MichaelB Sent: Sunday, 7 April 2019 11:06 To: neonixie-l Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Another Tube Hobby Failure HI Nick, I know you have mentioned that before, but I really don’t think

Re: [neonixie-l] Another Tube Hobby Failure

2019-04-06 Thread MichaelB
You've described my experience with this clock to a "T". If I hadn't made a custom enclosure around these electronics and its 'unique' tube spacing, I would abandon it in a heartbeat and substitute NixiChron electronics, but this would basically require building a whole new enclosure. It was my

[neonixie-l] Another Tube Hobby Failure

2019-04-06 Thread Nick
There's a number of anomalies here. The 7805 has no reverse bias diode and no 100n output cap to prevent oscillation (read the data sheet). Is the 7805 running hot? Some 7805 variants require these, some don't. R6 has about 180V across it - is it rated for that? There may be RF oscillation on

Re: [neonixie-l] Another Tube Hobby Failure

2019-04-06 Thread Roger Brinkman
I have one of these clocks too and it fails every three years or so on average. It’s all down to C6. Sometimes just F1 fails and other times the inductor L1 goes short circuit as well. The Equivalent Series Resistance (ESR) of C6 goes through the roof, causing it to effectively be a capacitor

Re: [neonixie-l] Another Tube Hobby Failure

2019-04-06 Thread Mac Doktor
> On Apr 6, 2019, at 9:36 PM, MichaelB wrote: > > I used a higher voltage capacity electrolytic this time, maybe I’ll this'll > give me another year or so :-). Are you using 85°C or 105°C? > and I will try your idea of adding a heat sink to the VREG, since heat seems > to be the culprit

Re: [neonixie-l] Another Tube Hobby Failure

2019-04-06 Thread MichaelB
HI Nick, I know you have mentioned that before, but I really don’t think anything else is wrong. As I said I have another one of these with 566M tubes and it has worked flawlessly for 8+ years. Those electronics are in a similar enclosure with less ventilation. And this is the second set of

Re: [neonixie-l] Another Tube Hobby Failure

2019-04-06 Thread Nicholas Stock
Something else is awry there Michael. I have a friend with a TubeHobby IN18 that i built for him that’s been running for well over 6 years now with no issues. The only modification i ever made was putting an extra heatsink on the regulator as what was there (board plane) didn’t seem sufficient

[neonixie-l] Another Tube Hobby Failure

2019-04-06 Thread MichaelB
This makes 4 times now this clock has failed over the past 10 years or so. This is a stock clock with IN-18's. I have another set of these electronics that has never failed, but then again, I had changed the tube board to accommodate the Z566M tube. Different current demands? It has worked like