[neonixie-l] Re: Glowing Wires

2023-10-08 Thread Benoit Tourret
Fixed is a bit strong... let's say that you can try to de-unpoison, an 
other word for "poisonning" a tube.

Le dimanche 8 octobre 2023 à 19:45:25 UTC+2, Paul Andrews a écrit :

> And for some tubes, that’s all that lights up lol. I wasn’t aware this 
> could be fixed. Thanks Benoit and Dalibor. I might try this.
>
> On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 11:53:18 AM UTC-4 Greg P wrote:
>
>> Benoit and Dalibor,
>>
>> Thank you for your responses.  I will try your suggestions.
>>
>> On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 5:41:12 AM UTC-4 Dalibor wrote:
>>
>>> Exactly as Benoit said - just decrease the current through the digit so 
>>> the glow disappears. Keep it running for days in that configuration, and 
>>> make sure the glow on the lead doesn't come back. The sputtered metal from 
>>> the digit traps impurities from the gas and make a thin layer on the lead, 
>>> protecting it from glowing at rated current.
>>> It really takes time :-)
>>>
>>> On Friday, 6 October 2023 at 16:59:49 UTC+2 Benoit Tourret wrote:
>>>
 you can try to add a resistor on this cathode, this will reduce the 
 current, reduce the glow; if the unwanted glowing point disappears, the 
 internal oxydation will re-coat the lead. this will take time, but this is 
 the only way to isolate the lead without opening the tube...

 Le vendredi 6 octobre 2023 à 15:05:17 UTC+2, Greg P a écrit :

> I have a clock that has some glowing lead wires from the glass seal to 
> where it connects to the individual cathodes.  This doesn’t happen on 
> every 
> cathode in the tube. 
>
> I know this can happen if too much current is applied but these tubes 
> are running at the rated current or below when using PWM for dimming.
>
> So my question is; does anyone have an tricks to resolve this without 
> just changing out the tube?  Trying to avoid changing as these tubes 
> (Z570M) are hardwired to the PCB.
>
> Appreciate any help on this topic.
>
>
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: Glowing Wires

2023-10-08 Thread Paul Andrews
And for some tubes, that’s all that lights up lol. I wasn’t aware this 
could be fixed. Thanks Benoit and Dalibor. I might try this.

On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 11:53:18 AM UTC-4 Greg P wrote:

> Benoit and Dalibor,
>
> Thank you for your responses.  I will try your suggestions.
>
> On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 5:41:12 AM UTC-4 Dalibor wrote:
>
>> Exactly as Benoit said - just decrease the current through the digit so 
>> the glow disappears. Keep it running for days in that configuration, and 
>> make sure the glow on the lead doesn't come back. The sputtered metal from 
>> the digit traps impurities from the gas and make a thin layer on the lead, 
>> protecting it from glowing at rated current.
>> It really takes time :-)
>>
>> On Friday, 6 October 2023 at 16:59:49 UTC+2 Benoit Tourret wrote:
>>
>>> you can try to add a resistor on this cathode, this will reduce the 
>>> current, reduce the glow; if the unwanted glowing point disappears, the 
>>> internal oxydation will re-coat the lead. this will take time, but this is 
>>> the only way to isolate the lead without opening the tube...
>>>
>>> Le vendredi 6 octobre 2023 à 15:05:17 UTC+2, Greg P a écrit :
>>>
 I have a clock that has some glowing lead wires from the glass seal to 
 where it connects to the individual cathodes.  This doesn’t happen on 
 every 
 cathode in the tube. 

 I know this can happen if too much current is applied but these tubes 
 are running at the rated current or below when using PWM for dimming.

 So my question is; does anyone have an tricks to resolve this without 
 just changing out the tube?  Trying to avoid changing as these tubes 
 (Z570M) are hardwired to the PCB.

 Appreciate any help on this topic.




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[neonixie-l] Re: Glowing Wires

2023-10-07 Thread 'Greg P' via neonixie-l
Benoit and Dalibor,

Thank you for your responses.  I will try your suggestions.

On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 5:41:12 AM UTC-4 Dalibor wrote:

> Exactly as Benoit said - just decrease the current through the digit so 
> the glow disappears. Keep it running for days in that configuration, and 
> make sure the glow on the lead doesn't come back. The sputtered metal from 
> the digit traps impurities from the gas and make a thin layer on the lead, 
> protecting it from glowing at rated current.
> It really takes time :-)
>
> On Friday, 6 October 2023 at 16:59:49 UTC+2 Benoit Tourret wrote:
>
>> you can try to add a resistor on this cathode, this will reduce the 
>> current, reduce the glow; if the unwanted glowing point disappears, the 
>> internal oxydation will re-coat the lead. this will take time, but this is 
>> the only way to isolate the lead without opening the tube...
>>
>> Le vendredi 6 octobre 2023 à 15:05:17 UTC+2, Greg P a écrit :
>>
>>> I have a clock that has some glowing lead wires from the glass seal to 
>>> where it connects to the individual cathodes.  This doesn’t happen on every 
>>> cathode in the tube. 
>>>
>>> I know this can happen if too much current is applied but these tubes 
>>> are running at the rated current or below when using PWM for dimming.
>>>
>>> So my question is; does anyone have an tricks to resolve this without 
>>> just changing out the tube?  Trying to avoid changing as these tubes 
>>> (Z570M) are hardwired to the PCB.
>>>
>>> Appreciate any help on this topic.
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[neonixie-l] Re: Glowing Wires

2023-10-07 Thread Dalibor
Exactly as Benoit said - just decrease the current through the digit so the 
glow disappears. Keep it running for days in that configuration, and make 
sure the glow on the lead doesn't come back. The sputtered metal from the 
digit traps impurities from the gas and make a thin layer on the lead, 
protecting it from glowing at rated current.
It really takes time :-)

On Friday, 6 October 2023 at 16:59:49 UTC+2 Benoit Tourret wrote:

> you can try to add a resistor on this cathode, this will reduce the 
> current, reduce the glow; if the unwanted glowing point disappears, the 
> internal oxydation will re-coat the lead. this will take time, but this is 
> the only way to isolate the lead without opening the tube...
>
> Le vendredi 6 octobre 2023 à 15:05:17 UTC+2, Greg P a écrit :
>
>> I have a clock that has some glowing lead wires from the glass seal to 
>> where it connects to the individual cathodes.  This doesn’t happen on every 
>> cathode in the tube. 
>>
>> I know this can happen if too much current is applied but these tubes are 
>> running at the rated current or below when using PWM for dimming.
>>
>> So my question is; does anyone have an tricks to resolve this without 
>> just changing out the tube?  Trying to avoid changing as these tubes 
>> (Z570M) are hardwired to the PCB.
>>
>> Appreciate any help on this topic.
>>
>>
>>

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[neonixie-l] Re: Glowing Wires

2023-10-06 Thread Benoit Tourret
you can try to add a resistor on this cathode, this will reduce the 
current, reduce the glow; if the unwanted glowing point disappears, the 
internal oxydation will re-coat the lead. this will take time, but this is 
the only way to isolate the lead without opening the tube...

Le vendredi 6 octobre 2023 à 15:05:17 UTC+2, Greg P a écrit :

> I have a clock that has some glowing lead wires from the glass seal to 
> where it connects to the individual cathodes.  This doesn’t happen on every 
> cathode in the tube. 
>
> I know this can happen if too much current is applied but these tubes are 
> running at the rated current or below when using PWM for dimming.
>
> So my question is; does anyone have an tricks to resolve this without just 
> changing out the tube?  Trying to avoid changing as these tubes (Z570M) are 
> hardwired to the PCB.
>
> Appreciate any help on this topic.
>
>
>

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