[neonixie-l] Re: Question on SN74142s

2012-02-25 Thread chuck richards
Ahh, I agree with David on this one.
Lucky.  I have been working with this stuff since 
around 1990, and during that time have only ever found
a small bunch of (10) of those 74142 ics.  They are
extremely rare, made of pure unobtainium!

They are the equivalent of a decade counter connected to
a 74141 and all in one 16-pin DIP package.

TTL cookbook page 93 describes it.

Some notes from last time I had mine fired up:

Counter clear pin 1 is very sensitive to noise.
If using a 2.2k pullup resistor, a .01 uf or a .1 uF
to gnd. keeps the full count going.  Without the cap,
the count goes 0 1 2 3 4 5 0

Carry out pin 14 stays high for all counts except 8 and 9.
Carry is low for counts 8 and 9, and it returns high when
count 0 is reached.

74142 belongs in a glass case, temperature and humidity
controlled, low light, nitrogen atmosphere.

Chuck





 Original Message 
From: a...@jacobs.us
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Question on SN74142s
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:15:54 -0800

They're also covered in the TTL Cookbook (That's where I found out
about
them)... Where did you find them?!?

-Adam

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 6:44 PM, David Forbes
dfor...@dakotacom.net wrote:

 On 2/23/12 7:11 PM, Dylan Distasio wrote:

 Hi all-

 I recently picked up 2 SN74142 ICs.  I'm about to show my
ignorance
 again, but can someone with some patience walk me through how I
would
 use these in a nixie clock.  I'm familiar with the 74141s but
have to
 admit after reading the SN74142 datasheet I am not entirely sure
how
 this one works.  I am still a beginner at digital logic, and
would
 appreciate any help with utlizing a combo of a decimal counter /
4-bit
 latch /decimal decoder/ nixie driver in one IC.
 Datasheet http://diogenes.iwt.uni-**bremen.de/vt/laser/nixie/**

SN74142.pdfhttp://diogenes.iwt.uni-bremen.de/vt/laser/nixie/SN74142.
pdf
 Best,
 Dylan


 Dylan,

 Lucky man! I've never seen one of those chips in person.

 I have used the old CMOS more-or-less equivalent, the CD4033
(which drives
 7-segment LEDs) to make a clock. You will need to wire the latch
in
 transparent mode, as the latch function is not needed for a clock.

 RCA published an app note in their 1974 data book that I built in
1976. It
 worked. I'll see if my scanner will cooperate enough to scan the
app note.

 --
 David Forbes, Tucson AZ


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Question on SN74142s

2012-02-25 Thread Dylan Distasio
I uploaded a picture in case anyone is interested in it:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/825/sn74142.jpg/

Also, to answer Adam's question on where I was lucky enough to find them,
it was Ralph's Industrial Electronic Supplies on the web.  Unfortunately,
they didn't have any additional stock or source for more.

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 6:25 PM, chuck richards chuc...@all2easy.netwrote:

 Ahh, I agree with David on this one.
 Lucky.  I have been working with this stuff since
 around 1990, and during that time have only ever found
 a small bunch of (10) of those 74142 ics.  They are
 extremely rare, made of pure unobtainium!

 They are the equivalent of a decade counter connected to
 a 74141 and all in one 16-pin DIP package.

 TTL cookbook page 93 describes it.

 Some notes from last time I had mine fired up:

 Counter clear pin 1 is very sensitive to noise.
 If using a 2.2k pullup resistor, a .01 uf or a .1 uF
 to gnd. keeps the full count going.  Without the cap,
 the count goes 0 1 2 3 4 5 0

 Carry out pin 14 stays high for all counts except 8 and 9.
 Carry is low for counts 8 and 9, and it returns high when
 count 0 is reached.

 74142 belongs in a glass case, temperature and humidity
 controlled, low light, nitrogen atmosphere.

 Chuck



 
 
  Original Message 
 From: a...@jacobs.us
 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Question on SN74142s
 Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:15:54 -0800
 
 They're also covered in the TTL Cookbook (That's where I found out
 about
 them)... Where did you find them?!?
 
 -Adam
 
 On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 6:44 PM, David Forbes
 dfor...@dakotacom.net wrote:
 
  On 2/23/12 7:11 PM, Dylan Distasio wrote:
 
  Hi all-
 
  I recently picked up 2 SN74142 ICs.  I'm about to show my
 ignorance
  again, but can someone with some patience walk me through how I
 would
  use these in a nixie clock.  I'm familiar with the 74141s but
 have to
  admit after reading the SN74142 datasheet I am not entirely sure
 how
  this one works.  I am still a beginner at digital logic, and
 would
  appreciate any help with utlizing a combo of a decimal counter /
 4-bit
  latch /decimal decoder/ nixie driver in one IC.
  Datasheet http://diogenes.iwt.uni-**bremen.de/vt/laser/nixie/**
 
 SN74142.pdfhttp://diogenes.iwt.uni-bremen.de/vt/laser/nixie/SN74142.
 pdf
  Best,
  Dylan
 
 
  Dylan,
 
  Lucky man! I've never seen one of those chips in person.
 
  I have used the old CMOS more-or-less equivalent, the CD4033
 (which drives
  7-segment LEDs) to make a clock. You will need to wire the latch
 in
  transparent mode, as the latch function is not needed for a clock.
 
  RCA published an app note in their 1974 data book that I built in
 1976. It
  worked. I'll see if my scanner will cooperate enough to scan the
 app note.
 
  --
  David Forbes, Tucson AZ
 
 
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