[neonixie-l] Re: Transistor ID...
Do you happen to have a photo of the top of the transistor? Those old TO-5 packages many times have the standard denomination in the top and left the sides for fabrication date, lot, etc. Also, from what I have seen, GE used black in some of their early silicon switching transistors. I have several 2N697 that are just like that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/74c139e1-4dc2-4027-bc2c-f2ffe0295e29%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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This sounds somewhat similar to the now very old, and obsolete clocks used in automobiles around sixty years ago. They worked like this. A spring would drive the clock through an escapement. As the spring unwound, two contacts would make, and a small electromagnet would wind the spring back up very rapidly. This would happen roughly every five minutes or so. You could hear it when it happened. Of course no solid state stuff back then, just brute force mechanics. I took one apart once just to satisfy my curiosity. Pretty ingenious for the day. Thanks for the fond memories. Ira. Actually, they were even more clever than that. To reduce the manufacturing precision needed, the tension of the escapement spring (which in concert with the mass of the pendulum wheel determines the tick frequency) was adjustable. Furthermore, the adjustment would occur, by a small fixed amount, every time the clock was set. So, if the clock was running slowly, and you reset the time ahead, the spring would be set a little tighter too, so that the clock would then run slightly faster. After a few days of setting the time, it would be perfectly, so to speak, dialed in. The ultimate accuracy, while never great, could definitely get to be around a minute per week or so. The only time this screwed up was for daylight savings time adjustments, and even this would correct itself within a day or two of resetting the clock. (I took one apart too, from the 1970 Cadillac I had in college. At first I didn't understand why some of the linkages seemed so sloppy, then I discovered that this was part of the auto-adjustment mechanism.) ~~ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/fd62f3f3-1af0-4d80-829d-7b963c2df30c%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I once had a clock which I found when someone was throwing it away. It ran on a set of (2) D cells in series. It was a springwound clock, it would run for about ten minutes per winding. When spring tension got low, a little motor would kick in and wind it back up. A set of batteries would last just over a year. Finally it died because the motor eventually failed and also the contacts to start the motor got flaky. But it did put in a couple years of good service after I found it. It was not a real precise timekeeper either maybe a minute or two per week or so. Chuck Original Message From: urros...@att.net To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Transistor ID... Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 07:14:31 -0700 (PDT) This sounds somewhat similar to the now very old, and obsolete clocks used in automobiles around sixty years ago. They worked like this. A spring would drive the clock through an escapement. As the spring unwound, two contacts would make, and a small electromagnet would wind the spring back up very rapidly. This would happen roughly every five minutes or so. You could hear it when it happened. Of course no solid state stuff back then, just brute force mechanics. I took one apart once just to satisfy my curiosity. Pretty ingenious for the day. Thanks for the fond memories. Ira. Actually, they were even more clever than that. To reduce the manufacturing precision needed, the tension of the escapement spring (which in concert with the mass of the pendulum wheel determines the tick frequency) was adjustable. Furthermore, the adjustment would occur, by a small fixed amount, every time the clock was set. So, if the clock was running slowly, and you reset the time ahead, the spring would be set a little tighter too, so that the clock would then run slightly faster. After a few days of setting the time, it would be perfectly, so to speak, dialed in. The ultimate accuracy, while never great, could definitely get to be around a minute per week or so. The only time this screwed up was for daylight savings time adjustments, and even this would correct itself within a day or two of resetting the clock. (I took one apart too, from the 1970 Cadillac I had in college. At first I didn't understand why some of the linkages seemed so sloppy, then I discovered that this was part of the auto-adjustment mechanism.) ~~ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/fd62f3f3-1af0-4d80-829d- 7b963c2df30c%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/380-220154228143141548%40all2easy.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[neonixie-l] Re: Transistor ID...
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1L_yrXPUFdg/VUArcv2pndI/AHo/sZE-zJLuKCY/s1600/IMG_0549.JPG https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bqaIGccREl8/VUArXh9BmfI/AHg/swIxtAFf9f0/s1600/IMG_0549.JPG There was also some discussion about the old car radios that used a coil to 'autowind' the clock every few minuets. The escapement would advance a cam and eventually allow a set of points to make contact, energizing a solenoid which would rewind the drive spring and open the points. Worked pretty good, drew a significant amount of current and after time the contacts would pit and the operation became unreliable... I found the clock above which works on a similar principle. The escapement moves a cam that eventually allows a set of points to make contact which activates the motor. That motor drives the digital number display, rewinds the drive spring asm and resets the cam. Oddly the cam/motor/contact portion works good.. the escapement drive sucks. It can run fast, or slow depending on who knows what... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/6399bde8-abe4-4276-a39c-83ebc2c9ae82%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[neonixie-l] Re: Transistor ID...
There was also some discussion about the old car radios that used a coil to 'autowind' the clock every few minuets. The escapement would advance a cam and eventually allow a set of points to make contact, energizing a solenoid which would rewind the drive spring and open the points. Worked pretty good, drew a significant amount of current and after time the contacts would pit and the operation became unreliable... I found the clock above which works on a similar principle. The escapement moves a cam that eventually allows a set of points to make contact which activates the motor. That motor drives the digital number display, rewinds the drive spring asm and resets the cam. Oddly the cam/motor/contact portion works good.. the escapement drive sucks. It can run fast, or slow depending on who knows what... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/d9af1796-3754-4ca0-b9ee-e96e3016f424%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[neonixie-l] Re: Transistor ID...
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Fe9_92a95Ek/VUAcbnr4EcI/AGs/7XDnBx9p-lM/s1600/IMG_0546.JPG https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--7hHPog-r0E/VUAchK0r7_I/AG0/RrP58yD7kYk/s1600/IMG_0545.JPG https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PtksWmR9HIo/VUAcSMPgqsI/AGk/WtRfcywjJdQ/s1600/IMG_0545.JPG Hi Guys, thanks for the suggestions! The idea of it having been worked on before never entered my mind.. it should have! Now of course that creates and added issue of, was the right transistor used.. (NPN,PNP..) I guess I do could both. Seems to me that back then, with germanium transistors, internal leakage was often depended on for bias. (or something like that, it's been a while!) The quest goes on. Also I included the pictures since there was some discussion about how it works. I think a modern equivalent would be one of the 'click/clack' animated toys that run on a solar cell. In the pictures you can see the balance wheel with the magnets mounted on it that swings back and forth under the coil that I THINK serves as the trigger coil and also the pulse coil that gives the wheel its kick. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/ce2af8bd-0afe-484a-8007-8ffb0eefb107%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[neonixie-l] Re: Transistor ID...
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MSzsYSIQ8Tw/VUAr2aGWnPI/AH4/Vh-VsFGjyjQ/s1600/IMG_0548.JPG https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-79adErQd-o4/VUArvXuk-9I/AHw/fCH1AeNtsik/s1600/IMG_0549.JPG There was also some discussion about the old car radios that used a coil to 'autowind' the clock every few minuets. The escapement would advance a cam and eventually allow a set of points to make contact, energizing a solenoid which would rewind the drive spring and open the points. Worked pretty good, drew a significant amount of current and after time the contacts would pit and the operation became unreliable... I found the clock above which works on a similar principle. The escapement moves a cam that eventually allows a set of points to make contact which activates the motor. That motor drives the digital number display, rewinds the drive spring asm and resets the cam. Oddly the cam/motor/contact portion works good.. the escapement drive sucks. It can run fast, or slow depending on who knows what... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/1ce0221c-db69-40f6-9edf-73e4fe174d9e%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[neonixie-l] Re: Transistor ID...
Whoa! That looks a lot like the clock mechanism I was talking about, though it's been 35 years since I messed with it. I recall it ran on a single C-size battery. Also, to start the clock you had to pull-and-release the knob used to set the time. It gave the escapement a small kick. Unfortunately I couldn't find it in my junkbox, so I must have tossed it away years ago. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/9fc66a9a-d2c4-42ff-85d7-d2bf50cbebaf%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Getting back to the original enquiry, my guess is that the characteristics are not too critical. sounds from the original description that the transistor is being used as an on -off switch, and the voltage is known, the current it must pass can be measured. The soviets made Germanium Transistors for long periods after they faded in the west, so they do turn up from the same band of sellers who sell soviet Nixie tubes. (there: list content) My guess is that a germanium transistor may not even be really needed, perhaps a trial of a 2N3906 from the parts bin will do? or am I dreaming in technicolour as usual? -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe http://Charles.MacDonald.org/tubes No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/553FDFA9.4090803%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Transistor ID...
Sooo,,what's wrong with dreaming in technicolor. As soon as I finish lunch, I'm going to try and find some info on the G.E.-813 transistor. Ira On 4/28/2015 12:29 PM, Charles MacDonald wrote: Getting back to the original enquiry, my guess is that the characteristics are not too critical. sounds from the original description that the transistor is being used as an on -off switch, and the voltage is known, the current it must pass can be measured. The soviets made Germanium Transistors for long periods after they faded in the west, so they do turn up from the same band of sellers who sell soviet Nixie tubes. (there: list content) My guess is that a germanium transistor may not even be really needed, perhaps a trial of a 2N3906 from the parts bin will do? or am I dreaming in technicolour as usual? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/553FE3EE.4000103%40HUGHES.NET. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. attachment: IRACOSALES.vcf
[neonixie-l] Re: Transistor ID...
On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 7:27:15 PM UTC-4, Kerry Borgne wrote: Hi Guys, Working on an old Zenith battery operated clock radio (60's) The radio I fixed..the clock..not so much. It's a simple thing, just a transistor, center tapped coil and a cap. I need to try the transistor It's marked GE-813 and I can't find it listed anywhere. I THINK it's a germanium PNP but that's a guess...I was hoping maybe someone had some better info on it. Thanks, Kerry P.S. Uploaded my attempt at drawing the circuit. A balance staff/flywheel with magnets swings back and forth under the coil. (Q1 is shown as a PNP, (my guess..) https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Zrj_9vwFN4k/VT7SthNi6MI/AGM/FpkTDA2ZVB0/s1600/clock_cir.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/722c4cb5-e84c-4d20-b245-2d91ed2b6d60%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Transistor ID...
This sounds and looks very much like an electronic pendulum. Ira. On 4/27/2015 7:44 PM, Instrument Resources of America wrote: GE at one time, like many others, (NTE comes to mind) tried to get into the 'general replacement' line of transistors, and that is what I believe this is. I'll see if I can find anything here when I have a little more time. Perhaps tomorrow. I'll bet it's nothing fancy and is most likely a germanium type. Good luck finding those. If you don't hear from me in a day or so, rattle my cage again. LOL Ira. On 4/27/2015 5:24 PM, Kerry Borgne wrote: On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 7:27:15 PM UTC-4, Kerry Borgne wrote: Hi Guys, Working on an old Zenith battery operated clock radio (60's) The radio I fixed..the clock..not so much. It's a simple thing, just a transistor, center tapped coil and a cap. I need to try the transistor It's marked GE-813 and I can't find it listed anywhere. I THINK it's a germanium PNP but that's a guess...I was hoping maybe someone had some better info on it. Thanks, Kerry P.S. Uploaded my attempt at drawing the circuit. A balance staff/flywheel with magnets swings back and forth under the coil. (Q1 is shown as a PNP, (my guess..) https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Zrj_9vwFN4k/VT7SthNi6MI/AGM/FpkTDA2ZVB0/s1600/clock_cir.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/722c4cb5-e84c-4d20-b245-2d91ed2b6d60%40googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/722c4cb5-e84c-4d20-b245-2d91ed2b6d60%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/553EF41D.9070907%40HUGHES.NET https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/553EF41D.9070907%40HUGHES.NET?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/553F1002.9030205%40HUGHES.NET. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. attachment: IRACOSALES.vcf
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Transistor ID...
GE at one time, like many others, (NTE comes to mind) tried to get into the 'general replacement' line of transistors, and that is what I believe this is. I'll see if I can find anything here when I have a little more time. Perhaps tomorrow. I'll bet it's nothing fancy and is most likely a germanium type. Good luck finding those. If you don't hear from me in a day or so, rattle my cage again. LOL Ira. On 4/27/2015 5:24 PM, Kerry Borgne wrote: On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 7:27:15 PM UTC-4, Kerry Borgne wrote: Hi Guys, Working on an old Zenith battery operated clock radio (60's) The radio I fixed..the clock..not so much. It's a simple thing, just a transistor, center tapped coil and a cap. I need to try the transistor It's marked GE-813 and I can't find it listed anywhere. I THINK it's a germanium PNP but that's a guess...I was hoping maybe someone had some better info on it. Thanks, Kerry P.S. Uploaded my attempt at drawing the circuit. A balance staff/flywheel with magnets swings back and forth under the coil. (Q1 is shown as a PNP, (my guess..) https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Zrj_9vwFN4k/VT7SthNi6MI/AGM/FpkTDA2ZVB0/s1600/clock_cir.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/722c4cb5-e84c-4d20-b245-2d91ed2b6d60%40googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/722c4cb5-e84c-4d20-b245-2d91ed2b6d60%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/553EF41D.9070907%40HUGHES.NET. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. attachment: IRACOSALES.vcf
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This sounds somewhat similar to the now very old, and obsolete clocks used in automobiles around sixty years ago. They worked like this. A spring would drive the clock through an escapement. As the spring unwound, two contacts would make, and a small electromagnet would wind the spring back up very rapidly. This would happen roughly every five minutes or so. You could hear it when it happened. Of course no solid state stuff back then, just brute force mechanics. I took one apart once just to satisfy my curiosity. Pretty ingenious for the day. Thanks for the fond memories. Ira. On 4/27/2015 5:21 PM, gregebert wrote: Is this a mechanical clock ? If so, I've seen a similar mechanism before where the coil is briefly energized as the flywheel mechanism rotates (it has a small magnet, and I think that induces base-current in the transistor, which causes a larger current to nudge the magnet). Apparently it's enough of a periodic magnetic jolt to keep the clock running for several months. In my case, the clock kept stopping because the movement was worn. Yours may have suffered a similar fate. I'm fairly certain the transistor is OK. I made a bizarre motor by destroying the spring and the escape mechanism. Instead rotating back-and-forth, it simply would spin. I was surprised how fast it could go (several thousand RPM) by cranking-up the voltage. The clock hands did not move because I wrecked the escape mechanism. Eventually, as the voltage was increased the speed got so high that the transistor wouldn't switch correctly, and the motor actually stopped. Lowering the voltage and manually spinning the motor, it ran again. Despite the abuse, the transistor never died. I suppose you could drill-out the clock face and put nixies in it..or simulate the mechanical hands with neon bulbs like I did with my big clock. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/75d0a136-70eb-427d-84b6-68d2e91d2e5b%40googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/75d0a136-70eb-427d-84b6-68d2e91d2e5b%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/553EF61E.9090707%40HUGHES.NET. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. attachment: IRACOSALES.vcf
[neonixie-l] Re: Transistor ID...
Is this a mechanical clock ? If so, I've seen a similar mechanism before where the coil is briefly energized as the flywheel mechanism rotates (it has a small magnet, and I think that induces base-current in the transistor, which causes a larger current to nudge the magnet). Apparently it's enough of a periodic magnetic jolt to keep the clock running for several months. In my case, the clock kept stopping because the movement was worn. Yours may have suffered a similar fate. I'm fairly certain the transistor is OK. I made a bizarre motor by destroying the spring and the escape mechanism. Instead rotating back-and-forth, it simply would spin. I was surprised how fast it could go (several thousand RPM) by cranking-up the voltage. The clock hands did not move because I wrecked the escape mechanism. Eventually, as the voltage was increased the speed got so high that the transistor wouldn't switch correctly, and the motor actually stopped. Lowering the voltage and manually spinning the motor, it ran again. Despite the abuse, the transistor never died. I suppose you could drill-out the clock face and put nixies in it..or simulate the mechanical hands with neon bulbs like I did with my big clock. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/75d0a136-70eb-427d-84b6-68d2e91d2e5b%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
