Re: [neonixie-l] Where to get PCBs from, some companies blocked by PayPal and credit card issuers......

[Adrian Godwin]

On Sat, Dec 25, 2021 at 2:20 AM ZY  wrote:

>
> Also I recall in the past when they were BatchPCB they would clean the
> board edges. They don't do that anymore, meaning I have to individually
> dremel and clean the breaking points of each pcb, which is an annoyance to
> do safely if you have a bunch of small pcbs and don't want to breath in pcb
> dust (it's also itchy if you get it on your hands).
>

I usually clip them off with cutters rather than sand them. Blunts or even
snaps the cutters though so don't use the fine ones!

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Re: [neonixie-l] Where to get PCBs from, some companies blocked by PayPal and credit card issuers......

[ZY]

I also use OSHPark but only because for small pcbs they have they are the 
cheapest ENIG option. I know it probably makes no difference, but the after 
dark PCBs with ENIG do look nice.

If another supplier can do the same look but cheaper I'd have no issue with 
swapping, since for anything larger than a tiny PCB the oshpark prices get 
high real quick.

I have had a couple boards from them in the past where there were some 
manufacturing defects like connecting traces. They give you 3 per order so 
it's usually fine, but it did lose me a bit of time and wasted components 
trying to debug.

Also I recall in the past when they were BatchPCB they would clean the 
board edges. They don't do that anymore, meaning I have to individually 
dremel and clean the breaking points of each pcb, which is an annoyance to 
do safely if you have a bunch of small pcbs and don't want to breath in pcb 
dust (it's also itchy if you get it on your hands).

On Friday, 24 December 2021 at 10:28:54 UTC-5 Toby Thain wrote:

> On 2021-12-24 9:52 a.m., martin martin wrote:
> > Here's where I go:
> > http://mpi-pcb.com/contact-mpi.php 
> > 
> > Local USA and very good!
> > 
> > 
>
> Surprised nobody has mentioned OSHpark yet (on google results they are 
> buried under four ads for other companies...)
>
> https://oshpark.com/
>
> They take native KiCAD files. Just a satisfied customer.
>
>
> --Toby
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Where to get PCBs from, some companies blocked by PayPal and credit card issuers......

[Toby Thain]

On 2021-12-24 9:52 a.m., martin martin wrote:

Here's where I go:
http://mpi-pcb.com/contact-mpi.php 

Local USA and very good!




Surprised nobody has mentioned OSHpark yet (on google results they are 
buried under four ads for other companies...)


https://oshpark.com/

They take native KiCAD files. Just a satisfied customer.


--Toby

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Re: [neonixie-l] Where to get PCBs from, some companies blocked by PayPal and credit card issuers......

[martin martin]

Here's where I go:
http://mpi-pcb.com/contact-mpi.php

Local USA and very good!



~
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On Thu, Dec 23, 2021 at 8:49 PM Richard Scales 
wrote:

> +1 for JLCPCB - extremely affordable and delivery options to suit all
> circumstances. I am generally happy to wait over 2 weeks if the delivery
> charge is only $5 to the UK. Similarly if I absolutely positively have to
> have it in a few days then their expedited service is excellent.
> I am completely unsure but ny first ever order with them cost about $9 for
> 10 boards and I got them in a couple of days (beginners luck?) - nothing
> like that since then but production and delivery status information is
> available at all times.
>  - RIchard
>
>
> On Friday, 24 December 2021 at 00:23:38 UTC gregebert wrote:
>
>> I've been using PCBway for several years now. Their standard thruput is
>> 24 hoursyes, that's the standard time, not expedited.
>> Shipping by DHL is about 2 days; if you choose cheaper shipping such as
>> USPS,  it can take almost a month.
>> Their quality is excellent.
>>
>> Once, I had my gerber files go out Friday afternoon, and boards delivered
>> Monday afternoon.
>>
>> On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 2:47:51 AM UTC-8 mikeselectricstuff
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I usually use JLCPCB and ALLPCB
>>>
>>> On Thu, 23 Dec 2021 02:45:07 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
>>>
>>> >Hi,
>>> >
>>> >Recently I've been unable to buy circuit boards that I've designed
>>> myself
>>> >from the PCB manufacturing companies in China that I regularly use as I
>>> was
>>> >told by my credit card issuer that PayPal and MasterCard have
>>> >blocked/banned these companies due to involvement in crypto currency
>>> scams
>>> >and sale of crypto currency mining equipment. I can't even pay with
>>> PayPal
>>> >to email addresses registered by these companies nor those registered
>>> by
>>> >people involved with these companies, they have all been blocked by
>>> PayPal
>>> >I was told. It took me some time to find this out and I am not sure
>>> that my
>>> >credit card issuer was allowed to give me this much information as they
>>> >have declined to answer any of my followup questions.
>>> >
>>> >I was mainly using some Chinese companies as they were quite cheap at
>>> just
>>> >USD $4.90 for 10 PCBs up to 100mm by 100mm plus shipping and they have
>>> >always had good quality no matter what strangely looking circuit boards
>>> >that I made, even with complicated outlines and holes and up to 2
>>> layers,
>>> >just a tad bit more expensive for 4 layers. The price has been a big
>>> factor
>>> >for me when making prototypes, sometimes just ordering the PCBs to see
>>> how
>>> >they fit in the enclosure they were intended for, without actually
>>> >soldering any components, just trying them out for space.
>>> >
>>> >Are there any other companies out there that have similarly low prices,
>>> I
>>> >tried PCBWAY and OSHPARK with a small 2 layer circuit board just 71mm
>>> by
>>> >82mm and they were asking 10 times the cost and would only supply 1 or
>>> 3
>>> >circuit boards for that price plus the shipping cost was 4-5 times as
>>> >expensive.
>>> >
>>> >So, what cheap, but still acceptable quality, PCB manufacturers do you
>>> use?
>>> >
>>> >/Martin
>>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Where to get PCBs from, some companies blocked by PayPal and credit card issuers......

[Richard Scales]

+1 for JLCPCB - extremely affordable and delivery options to suit all 
circumstances. I am generally happy to wait over 2 weeks if the delivery 
charge is only $5 to the UK. Similarly if I absolutely positively have to 
have it in a few days then their expedited service is excellent.
I am completely unsure but ny first ever order with them cost about $9 for 
10 boards and I got them in a couple of days (beginners luck?) - nothing 
like that since then but production and delivery status information is 
available at all times.
 - RIchard


On Friday, 24 December 2021 at 00:23:38 UTC gregebert wrote:

> I've been using PCBway for several years now. Their standard thruput is 24 
> hoursyes, that's the standard time, not expedited.
> Shipping by DHL is about 2 days; if you choose cheaper shipping such as 
> USPS,  it can take almost a month.
> Their quality is excellent.
>
> Once, I had my gerber files go out Friday afternoon, and boards delivered 
> Monday afternoon.
>
> On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 2:47:51 AM UTC-8 mikeselectricstuff 
> wrote:
>
>> I usually use JLCPCB and ALLPCB
>>
>> On Thu, 23 Dec 2021 02:45:07 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
>>
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >Recently I've been unable to buy circuit boards that I've designed 
>> myself 
>> >from the PCB manufacturing companies in China that I regularly use as I 
>> was 
>> >told by my credit card issuer that PayPal and MasterCard have 
>> >blocked/banned these companies due to involvement in crypto currency 
>> scams 
>> >and sale of crypto currency mining equipment. I can't even pay with 
>> PayPal 
>> >to email addresses registered by these companies nor those registered by 
>> >people involved with these companies, they have all been blocked by 
>> PayPal 
>> >I was told. It took me some time to find this out and I am not sure that 
>> my 
>> >credit card issuer was allowed to give me this much information as they 
>> >have declined to answer any of my followup questions.
>> >
>> >I was mainly using some Chinese companies as they were quite cheap at 
>> just 
>> >USD $4.90 for 10 PCBs up to 100mm by 100mm plus shipping and they have 
>> >always had good quality no matter what strangely looking circuit boards 
>> >that I made, even with complicated outlines and holes and up to 2 
>> layers, 
>> >just a tad bit more expensive for 4 layers. The price has been a big 
>> factor 
>> >for me when making prototypes, sometimes just ordering the PCBs to see 
>> how 
>> >they fit in the enclosure they were intended for, without actually 
>> >soldering any components, just trying them out for space.
>> >
>> >Are there any other companies out there that have similarly low prices, 
>> I 
>> >tried PCBWAY and OSHPARK with a small 2 layer circuit board just 71mm by 
>> >82mm and they were asking 10 times the cost and would only supply 1 or 3 
>> >circuit boards for that price plus the shipping cost was 4-5 times as 
>> >expensive.
>> >
>> >So, what cheap, but still acceptable quality, PCB manufacturers do you 
>> use?
>> >
>> >/Martin
>>
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Where to get PCBs from, some companies blocked by PayPal and credit card issuers......

[gregebert]

I've been using PCBway for several years now. Their standard thruput is 24 
hoursyes, that's the standard time, not expedited.
Shipping by DHL is about 2 days; if you choose cheaper shipping such as 
USPS,  it can take almost a month.
Their quality is excellent.

Once, I had my gerber files go out Friday afternoon, and boards delivered 
Monday afternoon.

On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 2:47:51 AM UTC-8 mikeselectricstuff wrote:

> I usually use JLCPCB and ALLPCB
>
> On Thu, 23 Dec 2021 02:45:07 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >Recently I've been unable to buy circuit boards that I've designed myself 
> >from the PCB manufacturing companies in China that I regularly use as I 
> was 
> >told by my credit card issuer that PayPal and MasterCard have 
> >blocked/banned these companies due to involvement in crypto currency 
> scams 
> >and sale of crypto currency mining equipment. I can't even pay with 
> PayPal 
> >to email addresses registered by these companies nor those registered by 
> >people involved with these companies, they have all been blocked by 
> PayPal 
> >I was told. It took me some time to find this out and I am not sure that 
> my 
> >credit card issuer was allowed to give me this much information as they 
> >have declined to answer any of my followup questions.
> >
> >I was mainly using some Chinese companies as they were quite cheap at 
> just 
> >USD $4.90 for 10 PCBs up to 100mm by 100mm plus shipping and they have 
> >always had good quality no matter what strangely looking circuit boards 
> >that I made, even with complicated outlines and holes and up to 2 layers, 
> >just a tad bit more expensive for 4 layers. The price has been a big 
> factor 
> >for me when making prototypes, sometimes just ordering the PCBs to see 
> how 
> >they fit in the enclosure they were intended for, without actually 
> >soldering any components, just trying them out for space.
> >
> >Are there any other companies out there that have similarly low prices, I 
> >tried PCBWAY and OSHPARK with a small 2 layer circuit board just 71mm by 
> >82mm and they were asking 10 times the cost and would only supply 1 or 3 
> >circuit boards for that price plus the shipping cost was 4-5 times as 
> >expensive.
> >
> >So, what cheap, but still acceptable quality, PCB manufacturers do you 
> use?
> >
> >/Martin
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Where to get PCBs from, some companies blocked by PayPal and credit card issuers......

['Mike Harrison' via neonixie-l]

I usually use JLCPCB and ALLPCB

On Thu, 23 Dec 2021 02:45:07 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Recently I've been unable to buy circuit boards that I've designed myself 
>from the PCB manufacturing companies in China that I regularly use as I was 
>told by my credit card issuer that PayPal and MasterCard have 
>blocked/banned these companies due to involvement in crypto currency scams 
>and sale of crypto currency mining equipment. I can't even pay with PayPal 
>to email addresses registered by these companies nor those registered by 
>people involved with these companies, they have all been blocked by PayPal 
>I was told. It took me some time to find this out and I am not sure that my 
>credit card issuer was allowed to give me this much information as they 
>have declined to answer any of my followup questions.
>
>I was mainly using some Chinese companies as they were quite cheap at just 
>USD $4.90 for 10 PCBs up to 100mm by 100mm plus shipping and they have 
>always had good quality no matter what strangely looking circuit boards 
>that I made, even with complicated outlines and holes and up to 2 layers, 
>just a tad bit more expensive for 4 layers. The price has been a big factor 
>for me when making prototypes, sometimes just ordering the PCBs to see how 
>they fit in the enclosure they were intended for, without actually 
>soldering any components, just trying them out for space.
>
>Are there any other companies out there that have similarly low prices, I 
>tried PCBWAY and OSHPARK with a small 2 layer circuit board just 71mm by 
>82mm and they were asking 10 times the cost and would only supply 1 or 3 
>circuit boards for that price plus the shipping cost was 4-5 times as 
>expensive.
>
>So, what cheap, but still acceptable quality, PCB manufacturers do you use?
>
>/Martin

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[neonixie-l] Where to get PCBs from, some companies blocked by PayPal and credit card issuers......

[Dekatron42]

Hi,

Recently I've been unable to buy circuit boards that I've designed myself 
from the PCB manufacturing companies in China that I regularly use as I was 
told by my credit card issuer that PayPal and MasterCard have 
blocked/banned these companies due to involvement in crypto currency scams 
and sale of crypto currency mining equipment. I can't even pay with PayPal 
to email addresses registered by these companies nor those registered by 
people involved with these companies, they have all been blocked by PayPal 
I was told. It took me some time to find this out and I am not sure that my 
credit card issuer was allowed to give me this much information as they 
have declined to answer any of my followup questions.

I was mainly using some Chinese companies as they were quite cheap at just 
USD $4.90 for 10 PCBs up to 100mm by 100mm plus shipping and they have 
always had good quality no matter what strangely looking circuit boards 
that I made, even with complicated outlines and holes and up to 2 layers, 
just a tad bit more expensive for 4 layers. The price has been a big factor 
for me when making prototypes, sometimes just ordering the PCBs to see how 
they fit in the enclosure they were intended for, without actually 
soldering any components, just trying them out for space.

Are there any other companies out there that have similarly low prices, I 
tried PCBWAY and OSHPARK with a small 2 layer circuit board just 71mm by 
82mm and they were asking 10 times the cost and would only supply 1 or 3 
circuit boards for that price plus the shipping cost was 4-5 times as 
expensive.

So, what cheap, but still acceptable quality, PCB manufacturers do you use?

/Martin

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