Re: [NetBehaviour] Know Your Filesystem (and how it affects you)

[Dave Young]

Hi Marc,

> But when you say a "sense of agency/ownership is important", I cannot
> help thinking of comparisons relating to land restriction and its
> ownership, and privatization of our spaces. This is where issues around
> boundaries come to the fore and a critique about us living in a
> proprietary based society, historically, socially, culturally,
> psychically and technically (analogue and digital).

The point I was making about ownership was intended to focus on the
closed relationship between the system/interface and its user, rather
than the relationship between one user and the next. At the moment, I
get a sense that we are more tenants of our devices - while the hardware
can be purchased, the OS is provided to us as a kind of 'service', and
there is an impact on our autonomy associated with that relationship. So
when I say 'ownership' I am not at all calling for enclosure, I am more
calling for autonomy - to allow us to be root users, to use Android
without the overly intrusive Google Play Services or to say 'never' to a
software update, to freely install a different OS on the device, for
instance.

> I find the use of the term "smart operating systems" strange. 

The term 'smart phone', like 'cloud computing', is the produce of the
dark arts of corporate tech marketing, happily echoed by the likes of
The Verge, Engadget, Guardian Tech, etc.

>  From this
> standpoint the term "smart operating systems" looks like a euphemism or
> feels like doublespeak, when really it could lean more towards 'unsmart'
> as we become more needy of technology but not able to delve into its
> structures and frameworks, break away from its protocols. Perhaps we are
> "human operating systems" being engineered by the technology.

It is precisely a euphemism. The Operating System is only "smart",
because it gives the impression that it is taking care of the labour of
computer use on your behalf, so you can focus on simply enjoying the
"content".

I quite like the challenge of developing an unsmart or anti-smart OS.
What would that look like? Perhaps a question for one of the RWX
worksession groups next week. :)

Cheers,
Dave


> 
> On 21 October 2015 at 23:15, Dave Young  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Marc and all,
> 
> Thanks for the quote & question! To draw a minor correlation between my
> text and this Illich quote – Illich wrote Tools for Conviviality in the
> early 1970s, the same time the first GUI (Xerox Alto, later Star OS)
> operating system was being developed. So it's interesting to think that,
> while he writes at a time not too long ago but before even the personal
> computer and the GUI, his comments are very easily read within the
> present context where mass production quickly brings to mind the
> manufacturing of information. His ideas about isolationism, destruction
> of 'community' and relentless individuation recur frequently in
> contemporary net criticism, and his declaration that “corporate
> endeavours which thus threaten society cannot be tolerated” is
> especially resonant these days, with Google's rebranding etc.
> 
> I think the shell metaphor is also quite fitting. What I wanted to get
> at in the text was that any interface acts as an enclosure: it presents
> options to the user, but in the end these parameters are designed and
> constrained - some possibilities of user-responses/interactions must be
> omitted, and we shouldn't readily consider these omissions to be inert
> gestures but moments where interaction is governed. I think the
> interfaces of Android, iOS/OSX, and Windows have been moving towards
> what Illich might have considered a “man-made shell” for quite some time
> already - our shifting perspective on the filesystem is to me emblematic
> of this. The more we find ourselves within this shell, perhaps the less
> we consider our devices (laptops, tablets, phones, etc) as tools? I have
> the impression that, when it comes to tool-use, a sense of
> agency/ownership is important. I think we are really losing the
> entitlements that come with user-agency and tool-ownership as a
> consequence of these 'smart operating systems' and their reluctance to
> share their dirty laundry (filesystems, background processes,
> data-caching, and so on) with us - should we ask them to.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
> On 21/10/15 12:26, marc garrett wrote:
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > I've been reading your article 'Know Your Filesystem (and how it
> affects
> > you)', and I'd like to ask a question...
> >
> > The article reminds me Ivan Illich's 'Tools for Conviviality'...
> >
> > In his book, he says "Society can be destroyed when further growth of
> > mass production renders the milieu hostile, when it extinguishes the
> > free use of the natural abilities of society's members, when it
> 

Re: [NetBehaviour] Know Your Filesystem (and how it affects you)

[John Hopkins]

Hei Dave -


Maybe for the RWX worksession we can borrow your comment and proudly
begin development on a new mobile platform - "Stupid F**king OS".


hehe, GO FOR IT!


So long as you don't trademark it first, that is. ;)


got my Stupid F**king™ lawyers all over that one...

!!!

JH


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Re: [NetBehaviour] tsū

[John Hopkins]

On 25/Oct/15 14:46, James Morris wrote:

Anyone using it?


gag me! :-|


"tsū is a free social network and payment platform that shares up to 90% of
[advertising] revenues with its users."


Why do I get the feeling that these kinds of deployments (like Ello) are all 
about 'branding', marketing, and social-coolness-hipster-ladder-climbing? I get 
tired of the Red-Herring-on-steroids interfaces, the distinctly hollow-sounding 
ethical tweaks, and 'forward-looking' Darwinian spins.


Authentic? Uranus!

jh

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Re: [NetBehaviour] tsū

[BishopZ]

Looks like a very interesting idea, profit-sharing social networks. The
documentation suggest that it may be structured like a ponzi scheme, which
is not entirely bad.

Compensation structures like that heavily favor early adopters and people
that significantly grow the network. Most business in technology favors
early adopters of anything successful. The problem for a social network is
the social cost of creating a community that heavily favors growth. From a
Media Ecology standpoint, the social network's content inevitably becomes
about growth, diluting other ways people might use the platform.





On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 4:46 PM, James Morris  wrote:

> Anyone using it?
>
> "tsū is a free social network and payment platform that shares up to 90%
> of [advertising] revenues with its users."
>
> http://www.tsu.co/faq
>
> Here's an important notification at the head of their FAQ:
> "tsu.co is a community for authentic engagement. Please treat it
> respectfully. Users who spam or post inappropriate content will be banned
> in order to preserve the community."
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[NetBehaviour] dreaming again seizures again

[Alan Sondheim]

dreaming again seizures again

http://www.alansondheim.org/seizure.png

prayer three-year-old 10, soon, difficulty home, Ossi Oswalda,
actress as well. So her name is Ossi Oswalda, after a silent
film actress who other day. I speak with Foofwa on Skype, Gary
Manes on the phone. Ossi has Our house likes in a small
depression in one of Morgantown's hills; as a result anyone can
see into it from above We keep the shades drawn at night. Around
midnight last night, two white males 20-25 knocked on the door
of a house on the next block, broke in, beat up the residence
with a tire iron or crowbar, and stole whatever. Someone might
just part behind our house in the alley, work his way up the
side to the porch, wreak havoc. My body's temperature regulation
has always been off, but is worse Oswalda makes our house feel
like a home. There is no red spot on my desk, no flock of
blackbirds, no waiter against which I measure myself, selves,
and the world. The basement of our house is dark, but there is
no pile of rope which might be mistaken for a snake, or a snake
which might be mistaken for a pile of rope; instead there are
familiar things and we find our way round in the dark. We are
frightened of Bush and McCain; there is no esthetics to our
politics, which are weak theory tending towards TAZ.  West
Virginia has the highest prescription drug rate per capita in
the country and it's out of control; I argue with my 'health
care provider' to get basic medicine. No one has stolen our
copper telephone wires to sell - they bring fair money - and I
gather some drugs, which we are not on, cost between $60 and $80
per pill. A letter I wrote to the Dominion Post was published,
decrying the efforts of someone on the state legislature to
teach gun use and safety to school children; the idea is to
revive the local hunting population, which is on the decline. I
visited a friend of mine five minutes after his mother-in-law
was given last rites; she is still alive and spent six hours
last night calling out apparently random numbers. The atmosphere
creaks with tension. Changes are about. I will reread the
Diamond Sutra. The small scanner computer in the lab began
screaming this afternoon; it wouldn't stop. We opened it up and
found the fan burned out, everything red-hot. We took a fan from
another computer and so far things are working out fine; I
scanned Siva and vajra. Our friends in Bruceten Mills might have
weather damage; the area was hard-hit Boston on the crystal
radio. It's night ends up like Ossi Oswalda or at least without
doing something as good as bonus image, Ossi The last hiccup of
Ossi Oswalda Memmott, Michelangelo Antonioni, Mauritz Stiller,
Ossi Oswalda, Ingmar everything but can't for anything. for Ossi
the cat and Opal the turtle. Ossi is a West Virginia feral cat,
who has lived with us for four mood, among other things, and
Ossi's snoring has gotten louder here are the new in-dust-trial
sounds of Ossi the cat, who will * NOT the silent film actress,
for whom Ossi is named ** offer vase spirits, fish, ters. I've
slight fevers result. Our cat Ossi Azure and Ossi the cat with
me, but instead, the Core is Ossi, We've Kira Sedlock, good. 29
Tuesday, soreness foot; walk. Blood Azure, Ossi the Cat, and I
are all nervous wrecks.) than ever here, and I've had slight
fevers as a result. Our cat Ossi as well. So her name is Ossi
Oswalda, after a silent film actress who code/literature/culture
interaction. Our cat Ossi, brought home January 8, our poor cat,
Ossi Oswalda, feral from West Virginia, 11 1/2 here in our home,
darker and darker in our home. pray for Ossi spells for Ossi
Ossi Oswalda!!! - has become my favorite silent film star, after
seeing industrialization and Ossi Oswalda the cat, Oswalda makes
our house feel like a home. There is no red spot on my desk, and
a dam broke last night. Ossi Oswalda is dreaming again.


*/soon i will be back to normal/*

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[NetBehaviour] tsū

[James Morris]

Anyone using it?

"tsū is a free social network and payment platform that shares up to 90% 
of [advertising] revenues with its users."


http://www.tsu.co/faq

Here's an important notification at the head of their FAQ:
"tsu.co is a community for authentic engagement. Please treat it 
respectfully. Users who spam or post inappropriate content will be 
banned in order to preserve the community."



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Re: [NetBehaviour] Know Your Filesystem (and how it affects you)

[Dave Young]

Hi John,

Maybe for the RWX worksession we can borrow your comment and proudly
begin development on a new mobile platform - "Stupid F**king OS".

So long as you don't trademark it first, that is. ;)

Cheers,
Dave


On 25/10/15 16:24, John Hopkins wrote:
> 
>> It is precisely a euphemism. The Operating System is only "smart",
>> because it gives the impression that it is taking care of the labour of
>> computer use on your behalf, so you can focus on simply enjoying the
>> "content".
> 
> Hah! I suppose we can begin to reverse this trend by referring to such
> devices as "stupid f**king phones" or "goddam idiotic computer" perhaps?
> It's all in the naming, anyway ;-)
> 
> jh
> 
> 
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Know Your Filesystem (and how it affects you)

[John Hopkins]

It is precisely a euphemism. The Operating System is only "smart",
because it gives the impression that it is taking care of the labour of
computer use on your behalf, so you can focus on simply enjoying the
"content".


Hah! I suppose we can begin to reverse this trend by referring to such devices 
as "stupid f**king phones" or "goddam idiotic computer" perhaps? It's all in the 
naming, anyway ;-)


jh


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