Re: [NetBehaviour] Steal This CodeArt

2017-10-08 Thread Pall Thayer
Yes, technically, that could be done.

On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 3:31 PM Alan Sondheim  wrote:

>
> I was thinking of locking up the program; letting it run but closing down,
> internally, the ability to change anything, after a brief window. So for
> the participant, it's a kind of frustrating game, maybe paralleling the
> way the old tetris always eventually outstrips the player?
>
> On Sun, 8 Oct 2017, Pall Thayer wrote:
>
> > Alan, do you mean as in freezing up the browser? The code is all there
> and
> > free for anyone to edit. Not sure if it would be possible to lock up the
> > browser. I think most browsers have protections built in to detect and
> stop
> > that sort of thing. I could be wrong though.
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 3:00 PM Alan Sondheim  wrote:
> >
> >
> >   Really like these as well. Is there a way to have the process
> >   sped up, out
> >   of control, shut down, locked tight, closing fast the window of
> >   opportunity to alter the program?
> >
> >   On Sun, 8 Oct 2017, Annie Abrahams wrote:
> >
> >   > super Pall
> >   >
> >   > On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Pall Thayer
> >wrote:
> >   >?? ? ?Acouple of years ago I started a project that I called
> "Objects
> >   >?? ? ?of Art", a growing collection of art 'sketches' based on
> >   >?? ? ?JavaScript objects. The website allowed users to edit the
> codes
> >   >?? ? ?and run them with their changes. My plan was always to add a
> >   >?? ? ?feature that would allow others to save their altered
> versions
> >   >?? ? ?to the site. I finally got to work on that but in
> considering
> >   >?? ? ?how to do it, I got an idea that drastically altered the
> >   >?? ? ?concept. So I have re-released it under a new title.
> >   > The new work is called "Steal This ArtCode". It's still a
> >   collection
> >   > of art sketches based on JavaScript objects but now others who
> >   visit
> >   > the site can alter the code and overwrite the original as well
> >   as
> >   > taking ownership by applying their own name to it.
> >   >
> >   > The work is
> >   here:?http://pallthayer.dyndns.org/stealthiscodeart
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Steal This CodeArt

2017-10-08 Thread Alan Sondheim


I was thinking of locking up the program; letting it run but closing down, 
internally, the ability to change anything, after a brief window. So for 
the participant, it's a kind of frustrating game, maybe paralleling the 
way the old tetris always eventually outstrips the player?


On Sun, 8 Oct 2017, Pall Thayer wrote:


Alan, do you mean as in freezing up the browser? The code is all there and
free for anyone to edit. Not sure if it would be possible to lock up the
browser. I think most browsers have protections built in to detect and stop
that sort of thing. I could be wrong though.

On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 3:00 PM Alan Sondheim  wrote:


  Really like these as well. Is there a way to have the process
  sped up, out
  of control, shut down, locked tight, closing fast the window of
  opportunity to alter the program?

  On Sun, 8 Oct 2017, Annie Abrahams wrote:

  > super Pall
  >
  > On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Pall Thayer
   wrote:
  >?? ? ?Acouple of years ago I started a project that I called "Objects
  >?? ? ?of Art", a growing collection of art 'sketches' based on
  >?? ? ?JavaScript objects. The website allowed users to edit the codes
  >?? ? ?and run them with their changes. My plan was always to add a
  >?? ? ?feature that would allow others to save their altered versions
  >?? ? ?to the site. I finally got to work on that but in considering
  >?? ? ?how to do it, I got an idea that drastically altered the
  >?? ? ?concept. So I have re-released it under a new title.
  > The new work is called "Steal This ArtCode". It's still a
  collection
  > of art sketches based on JavaScript objects but now others who
  visit
  > the site can alter the code and overwrite the original as well
  as
  > taking ownership by applying their own name to it.
  >
  > The work is
  here:?http://pallthayer.dyndns.org/stealthiscodeart
  > --
  > P Thayer, Artist
  > http://pallthayer.dyndns.org
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  festival M?q, hTh,
  > Montpellier.
  >
  > L?entrelangue ? trois, 28/10 20h Rencontre performatif avec
  Christophe Beyler,
  > Lily Robert-Foley et Annie Abrahams, Espace o25rjj Loupian.
  >
  >

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Re: [NetBehaviour] Steal This CodeArt

2017-10-08 Thread Pall Thayer
Alan, do you mean as in freezing up the browser? The code is all there and
free for anyone to edit. Not sure if it would be possible to lock up the
browser. I think most browsers have protections built in to detect and stop
that sort of thing. I could be wrong though.

On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 3:00 PM Alan Sondheim  wrote:

>
>
> Really like these as well. Is there a way to have the process sped up, out
> of control, shut down, locked tight, closing fast the window of
> opportunity to alter the program?
>
> On Sun, 8 Oct 2017, Annie Abrahams wrote:
>
> > super Pall
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Pall Thayer  wrote:
> >   A couple of years ago I started a project that I called "Objects
> >   of Art", a growing collection of art 'sketches' based on
> >   JavaScript objects. The website allowed users to edit the codes
> >   and run them with their changes. My plan was always to add a
> >   feature that would allow others to save their altered versions
> >   to the site. I finally got to work on that but in considering
> >   how to do it, I got an idea that drastically altered the
> >   concept. So I have re-released it under a new title.
> > The new work is called "Steal This ArtCode". It's still a collection
> > of art sketches based on JavaScript objects but now others who visit
> > the site can alter the code and overwrite the original as well as
> > taking ownership by applying their own name to it.
> >
> > The work is here:?http://pallthayer.dyndns.org/stealthiscodeart
> > --
> > P Thayer, Artist
> > http://pallthayer.dyndns.org
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> >
> >
> >
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> > Qu'est-ce et pourquoi agency art ? 12/10 18h Conf?rence, festival M?q,
> hTh,
> > Montpellier.
> >
> > L?entrelangue ? trois, 28/10 20h Rencontre performatif avec Christophe
> Beyler,
> > Lily Robert-Foley et Annie Abrahams, Espace o25rjj Loupian.
> >
> >
>
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[NetBehaviour] distributed networked intelligence

2017-10-08 Thread Alan Sondheim



distributed networked intelligence


Blue lobster in Bristol RI Audubon Society aquarium. I'm
thinking about networked intelligence here, the relationship
between complex articulations and overall systems behavior - and
how we, as humans, tend to think of intelligence as located
instead in a primary organ.

Image: http://www.alansondheim.org/aud31.jpg blue lobster
Video: https://youtu.be/vfALP-jPGm8
Image: http://www.alansondheim.org/aud33.jpg starfish tentacles

Even systems ontologies break down; given that there is a
consciousness at work here, that numerous limbs and joints need
local and overall articulation, we have to admit, as so many
already have, that we've got intelligence wrong, that
distribution creates an economy of energy and localization
that's absolutely brilliant, that results in different ways of
thinking, even of life and death - consider the wood-net for
example, or hive behavior; think of slime-molds or the
dominating micro-biomes of the human body, in fact of almost
every larger organism. Move not to the grid, but to transport
topologies; our singular 'I' (ipod, ipad, my--) is fundamentally
diffused, and what brilliance lies there, if one only has the
patience to _look._ This lobster is a case in point; arms and
feeding mechanisms interlock, as if they were communities them-
selves. They're not, of course; there simply may not be the
Barthian _punctum_ we insist on, from the vanishing-point
inherent in three-dimensional visual triangulation, to Weyl's
ego-location at the origin of the Cartesian graph. Move from
geometry and manifolds to rubber-sheet topologies without
ontology - pure epistemologies - and then think of this in
relationship, first, to the rigidity of digital protocols, and,
second, to the flexibility of digital protocols, which require
neither realm nor location; so much hacking, for example, is
fundamentally anonymous - all that seems to exist are the
networks and their dynamics.

Forget our heads and brains, look without looking at the
flexible and networked habitus that constitutes our very
existence on the planet; if we do so we might comprehend a bit
more of the intelligence around us.

(One might argue that what occurs might only be a simulacrum of
intelligence, certainly not of consciousness. I err on the side
of consciousness. We had, for close to a year, a fresh-water
crayfish in a tank with fish and plants; we observed it (sex
indeterminate) for a year, and it seemed clear to us that it was
capable of recognition (it could tell us apart), trans-species
relationships (with one fish in particular, with us as well),
learning and meta-learning in Bateson's sense (based on climbing
behavior), and so forth. Recognition was mutual recognition,
that much was clear; whether or not the crayfish thought us
worthy of consciousness seemed almost beside the point.)

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Re: [NetBehaviour] Steal This CodeArt

2017-10-08 Thread Alan Sondheim



Really like these as well. Is there a way to have the process sped up, out 
of control, shut down, locked tight, closing fast the window of 
opportunity to alter the program?


On Sun, 8 Oct 2017, Annie Abrahams wrote:


super Pall

On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Pall Thayer  wrote:
  A couple of years ago I started a project that I called "Objects
  of Art", a growing collection of art 'sketches' based on
  JavaScript objects. The website allowed users to edit the codes
  and run them with their changes. My plan was always to add a
  feature that would allow others to save their altered versions
  to the site. I finally got to work on that but in considering
  how to do it, I got an idea that drastically altered the
  concept. So I have re-released it under a new title.
The new work is called "Steal This ArtCode". It's still a collection
of art sketches based on JavaScript objects but now others who visit
the site can alter the code and overwrite the original as well as
taking ownership by applying their own name to it.

The work is here:?http://pallthayer.dyndns.org/stealthiscodeart
--
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Steal This CodeArt

2017-10-08 Thread Annie Abrahams
super Pall

On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Pall Thayer  wrote:

> A couple of years ago I started a project that I called "Objects of Art",
> a growing collection of art 'sketches' based on JavaScript objects. The
> website allowed users to edit the codes and run them with their changes. My
> plan was always to add a feature that would allow others to save their
> altered versions to the site. I finally got to work on that but in
> considering how to do it, I got an idea that drastically altered the
> concept. So I have re-released it under a new title.
>
> The new work is called "Steal This ArtCode". It's still a collection of
> art sketches based on JavaScript objects but now others who visit the site
> can alter the code and overwrite the original as well as taking ownership
> by applying their own name to it.
>
> The work is here: http://pallthayer.dyndns.org/stealthiscodeart
> --
> P Thayer, Artist
> http://pallthayer.dyndns.org
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[NetBehaviour] An Abstraction?

2017-10-08 Thread Pall Thayer
http://pallthayer.dyndns.org/stealthiscodeart/index.php?id=12
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[NetBehaviour] Steal This CodeArt

2017-10-08 Thread Pall Thayer
A couple of years ago I started a project that I called "Objects of Art", a
growing collection of art 'sketches' based on JavaScript objects. The
website allowed users to edit the codes and run them with their changes. My
plan was always to add a feature that would allow others to save their
altered versions to the site. I finally got to work on that but in
considering how to do it, I got an idea that drastically altered the
concept. So I have re-released it under a new title.

The new work is called "Steal This ArtCode". It's still a collection of art
sketches based on JavaScript objects but now others who visit the site can
alter the code and overwrite the original as well as taking ownership by
applying their own name to it.

The work is here: http://pallthayer.dyndns.org/stealthiscodeart
-- 
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http://pallthayer.dyndns.org
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