[NetBehaviour] Turbulence to end

[Edward Picot]

Blimey! Turbulence!

When I first started to take an interest in net/new media 
art/literature, or whatever this stuff is that we're all involved in, 
the first organisations I became aware of were WebArtery, TrAce, 
Furtherfield, Rhizome and Turbulence, pretty much in that order. Now 
it's just Furtherfield and Rhizome, and Rhizome's gone all kind of 
corporate and glossy.


There are other things that are still going, like the Electronic 
Literature Organisation, the Electronic Book Review and Grand Text Auto, 
but I never really got into any of them.


I suppose it's ironic to expect an organisation with a name like 
Turbulence to always be around...


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Re: [NetBehaviour] Turbulence to end

[dave miller]

My own work has always been largely invisible so no risk of it getting
invisibilsed, though I see what you mean about history being rewritten and
net art erased from history.
On 8 May 2016 11:49, "helen varley jamieson" 
wrote:

> it is sad news indeed, i hope it will be archived somewhere. and written
> about. i agree with giselle, it's vital that the early history of net.art
> gets recorded - multiple times, and in multiple discordant voices. we see
> so many situations of younger artists "discovering" things that we were all
> doing 10+years ago; of course everyone should and will make their own
> discoveries, but not so that previous work gets invisibilised.
>
> john, such documentation won't change the traces in our bodies :) it's for
> those who don't have these bodily traces.
>
> h : )
>
> On 8/05/16 4:55 09AM, John Hopkins wrote:
>
> On 07/May/16 18:23, giselle beiguelman wrote:
>
> one more chapter of net art 1.0 blowing in the wind.
> things like that convince me that is urgent to write the history of net
> art
> before the 2.0 hype.
>
>
> Nah, don't reify that which cannot be re-presented. Leave the net to its
> vaporous, unstable, transient, and vital be-ing... Best to have the traces
> of human networks left only in the body... and this too shall pass away...
>
> jh
>
> otoh: I wonder if they will archive the web site somewhere? have to
> contact Helen about that...
>
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Turbulence to end

[helen varley jamieson]

it is sad news indeed, i hope it will be archived somewhere. and written
about. i agree with giselle, it's vital that the early history of
net.art gets recorded - multiple times, and in multiple discordant
voices. we see so many situations of younger artists "discovering"
things that we were all doing 10+years ago; of course everyone should
and will make their own discoveries, but not so that previous work gets
invisibilised.

john, such documentation won't change the traces in our bodies :) it's
for those who don't have these bodily traces.

h : )


On 8/05/16 4:55 09AM, John Hopkins wrote:
> On 07/May/16 18:23, giselle beiguelman wrote:
>> one more chapter of net art 1.0 blowing in the wind.
>> things like that convince me that is urgent to write the history of
>> net art
>> before the 2.0 hype.
>
> Nah, don't reify that which cannot be re-presented. Leave the net to
> its vaporous, unstable, transient, and vital be-ing... Best to have
> the traces of human networks left only in the body... and this too
> shall pass away...
>
> jh
>
> otoh: I wonder if they will archive the web site somewhere? have to
> contact Helen about that...
>

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Re: [NetBehaviour] Turbulence to end

[Chiara Passa]

Very sad news :( indeed
Hope too they can archive the work done in some library or foundation. Rose 
Goldsen has a great repository. 

Best, Chiara




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> Il giorno 08 mag 2016, alle ore 05:11, Simon Biggs  
> ha scritto:
> 
> I saw a tweet from Turbulence mentioning something about Cornell. Could be 
> that they will archive it with the Rose Goldsen Archive at the Cornell 
> University library. Would make sense - they already have extensive media arts 
> holdings.
> 
> best
> 
> Simon
> 
> 
> Simon Biggs
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> http://www.eca.ed.ac.uk/school-of-art/simon-biggs
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8 May 2016, at 12:25, John Hopkins  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 07/May/16 18:23, giselle beiguelman wrote:
>>> one more chapter of net art 1.0 blowing in the wind.
>>> things like that convince me that is urgent to write the history of net art
>>> before the 2.0 hype.
>> 
>> Nah, don't reify that which cannot be re-presented. Leave the net to its 
>> vaporous, unstable, transient, and vital be-ing... Best to have the traces 
>> of human networks left only in the body... and this too shall pass away...
>> 
>> jh
>> 
>> otoh: I wonder if they will archive the web site somewhere? have to contact 
>> Helen about that...
>> 
>> -- 
>> ++
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Turbulence to end

[Simon Biggs]

I saw a tweet from Turbulence mentioning something about Cornell. Could be that 
they will archive it with the Rose Goldsen Archive at the Cornell University 
library. Would make sense - they already have extensive media arts holdings.

best

Simon


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> On 8 May 2016, at 12:25, John Hopkins  wrote:
> 
> On 07/May/16 18:23, giselle beiguelman wrote:
>> one more chapter of net art 1.0 blowing in the wind.
>> things like that convince me that is urgent to write the history of net art
>> before the 2.0 hype.
> 
> Nah, don't reify that which cannot be re-presented. Leave the net to its 
> vaporous, unstable, transient, and vital be-ing... Best to have the traces of 
> human networks left only in the body... and this too shall pass away...
> 
> jh
> 
> otoh: I wonder if they will archive the web site somewhere? have to contact 
> Helen about that...
> 
> -- 
> ++
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> grounded on a granite batholith
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Turbulence to end

[John Hopkins]

On 07/May/16 18:23, giselle beiguelman wrote:

one more chapter of net art 1.0 blowing in the wind.
things like that convince me that is urgent to write the history of net art
before the 2.0 hype.


Nah, don't reify that which cannot be re-presented. Leave the net to its 
vaporous, unstable, transient, and vital be-ing... Best to have the traces of 
human networks left only in the body... and this too shall pass away...


jh

otoh: I wonder if they will archive the web site somewhere? have to contact 
Helen about that...


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[NetBehaviour] Turbulence to end

[giselle beiguelman]

sad news.
one more chapter of net art 1.0 blowing in the wind.
things like that convince me that is urgent to write the history of net art
before the 2.0 hype.


2016-05-07 17:51 GMT-03:00 Renee Turner >:

> Indeed sad news - especially given great and supportive work Helen and
> Jo-Anne have done over the years.
>
> :(
>
> Renee
>
> On May 7, 2016, at 10:40 PM, mez breeze  > wrote:
>
> *Shakes head*. Awful news.
>
> On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 6:22 AM, Nathaniel Stern  > wrote:
>
>> This is devastating! See below.
>>
>> Dear Turbulence.org  Artist/Friend,
>>
>> After an extraordinary 20-year run, NRPA co-directors Helen Thorington
>> and Jo-Anne Green announce the end of the Turbulence.org
>>  project.
>>
>> Operating Support has steadily declined over the past decade, and has
>> reached a point where it no longer sustains our involvement. We will go
>> offline on December 31, 2016.
>>
>> If you need access to our server to obtain a copy of your files, please
>> contact Helen at helen.thoring...@gmail.com
>> 
>>
>> With warm wishes,
>>
>> Helen and Jo
>> --
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>> New Radio and Performing Arts, Inc.
>> http://new-radio.org
>> http://turbulence.org
>> http://somewhere.org
>>
>> nathaniel stern
>> http://nathanielstern.com
>>
>> On May 7, 2016, at 3:13 PM, dave miller > > wrote:
>>
>> Hi Pall
>> That's really sad news. Do you have any more info on why they're shutting
>> down?
>>
>> dave
>>
>> On 7 May 2016 at 20:04, Pall Thayer > > wrote:
>>
>>> Just received notice that http://turbulence.org is shutting down at the
>>> end of this year. They've been huge supporters of netart over the years.
>>> Sad to see them go.
>>>
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Turbulence to end

[Simon Biggs]

This is a pity. They supported a lot of really interesting artists - indeed, 
helped identify a community of practitioners and establish the field.

best

Simon


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> On 8 May 2016, at 04:34, Pall Thayer  wrote:
> 
> Just received notice that http://turbulence.org  is 
> shutting down at the end of this year. They've been huge supporters of netart 
> over the years. Sad to see them go.
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Turbulence to end

[Alan Sondheim]

Terrible to see them go!

On Sat, 7 May 2016, Pall Thayer wrote:


Just received notice that http://turbulence.org is shutting down at the end
of this year. They've been huge supporters of netart over the years. Sad to
see them go.
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Turbulence to end

[Renee Turner]

Indeed sad news - especially given great and supportive work Helen and Jo-Anne 
have done over the years.

:( 

Renee

> On May 7, 2016, at 10:40 PM, mez breeze  wrote:
> 
> *Shakes head*. Awful news.
> 
> On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 6:22 AM, Nathaniel Stern  > wrote:
> This is devastating! See below.
> 
> Dear Turbulence.org  Artist/Friend,
> 
> After an extraordinary 20-year run, NRPA co-directors Helen Thorington and 
> Jo-Anne Green announce the end of the Turbulence.org  
> project.
> 
> Operating Support has steadily declined over the past decade, and has reached 
> a point where it no longer sustains our involvement. We will go offline on 
> December 31, 2016.
> 
> If you need access to our server to obtain a copy of your files, please 
> contact Helen at helen.thoring...@gmail.com 
> 
> 
> With warm wishes,
> 
> Helen and Jo
> -- 
> Helen Thorington and Jo-Anne Green, Co-Directors
> New Radio and Performing Arts, Inc.
> http://new-radio.org 
> http://turbulence.org 
> http://somewhere.org 
> 
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> http://nathanielstern.com 
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>> On May 7, 2016, at 3:13 PM, dave miller > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Pall
>> That's really sad news. Do you have any more info on why they're shutting 
>> down?
>> 
>> dave
>> 
>> On 7 May 2016 at 20:04, Pall Thayer > > wrote:
>> Just received notice that http://turbulence.org  is 
>> shutting down at the end of this year. They've been huge supporters of 
>> netart over the years. Sad to see them go.
>> 
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Turbulence to end

[mez breeze]

*Shakes head*. Awful news.

On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 6:22 AM, Nathaniel Stern 
wrote:

> This is devastating! See below.
>
> Dear Turbulence.org Artist/Friend,
>
> After an extraordinary 20-year run, NRPA co-directors Helen Thorington and
> Jo-Anne Green announce the end of the Turbulence.org project.
>
> Operating Support has steadily declined over the past decade, and has
> reached a point where it no longer sustains our involvement. We will go
> offline on December 31, 2016.
>
> If you need access to our server to obtain a copy of your files, please
> contact Helen at helen.thoring...@gmail.com
>
> With warm wishes,
>
> Helen and Jo
> --
> Helen Thorington and Jo-Anne Green, Co-Directors
> New Radio and Performing Arts, Inc.
> http://new-radio.org
> http://turbulence.org
> http://somewhere.org
>
> nathaniel stern
> http://nathanielstern.com
>
> On May 7, 2016, at 3:13 PM, dave miller  wrote:
>
> Hi Pall
> That's really sad news. Do you have any more info on why they're shutting
> down?
>
> dave
>
> On 7 May 2016 at 20:04, Pall Thayer  wrote:
>
>> Just received notice that http://turbulence.org is shutting down at the
>> end of this year. They've been huge supporters of netart over the years.
>> Sad to see them go.
>>
>> Pall
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Turbulence to end

[Nathaniel Stern]

This is devastating! See below.

Dear Turbulence.org  Artist/Friend,

After an extraordinary 20-year run, NRPA co-directors Helen Thorington and 
Jo-Anne Green announce the end of the Turbulence.org  
project.

Operating Support has steadily declined over the past decade, and has reached a 
point where it no longer sustains our involvement. We will go offline on 
December 31, 2016.

If you need access to our server to obtain a copy of your files, please contact 
Helen at helen.thoring...@gmail.com 

With warm wishes,

Helen and Jo
-- 
Helen Thorington and Jo-Anne Green, Co-Directors
New Radio and Performing Arts, Inc.
http://new-radio.org 
http://turbulence.org 
http://somewhere.org 

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> On May 7, 2016, at 3:13 PM, dave miller  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pall
> That's really sad news. Do you have any more info on why they're shutting 
> down?
> 
> dave
> 
> On 7 May 2016 at 20:04, Pall Thayer  > wrote:
> Just received notice that http://turbulence.org  is 
> shutting down at the end of this year. They've been huge supporters of netart 
> over the years. Sad to see them go.
> 
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Turbulence to end

[dave miller]

Hi Pall
That's really sad news. Do you have any more info on why they're shutting
down?

dave

On 7 May 2016 at 20:04, Pall Thayer  wrote:

> Just received notice that http://turbulence.org is shutting down at the
> end of this year. They've been huge supporters of netart over the years.
> Sad to see them go.
>
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[NetBehaviour] Turbulence to end

[Pall Thayer]

Just received notice that http://turbulence.org is shutting down at the end
of this year. They've been huge supporters of netart over the years. Sad to
see them go.

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