Re: [NetBehaviour] review: Monetise Your Privilege with Schizo-Art Bollocks

2016-03-22 Thread Michael Szpakowski
Yes - I completely agree Marc.Nathan Jones has done a service with this review, 
although I'm not sure it's necessary to call Guattari , Deleuze and Berardi as 
expert witnesses but to simply look and see what a nasty little bit of bullying 
was going on here.Furthermore, the point for me is not whether the performance 
was a "success" or "failure" but that it seems, at the most generous, a 
category error to judge it in those terms -a bit like awarding points for the 
grace with which someone might "perform" kicking a homeless person.For me 
ethics trumps art. Sometimes that can be a complex and difficult thing to 
disentangle, but not here. Pass the sick bag.
michael



  From: marc garrett <marc.garre...@gmail.com>
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Bollocks
   
Hi Nathan,

Thanks for posting this review of yours on Netbehaviour. 

All I can say right now (but will likely say more) is, Wow! This work sounds 
not only tedious, but also decadent and shallow, and reliant on other people's 
conditions of not being able to fight back, against a privileged form of 
exploitation. Thanks Nathan - an article that needed to be written so the 
emptiness in the mainstream art world is challenged.

Wishing you well.

marc

On 22 March 2016 at 10:22, nathan jones <nat...@mercyonline.co.uk> wrote:

Monetise Your Privilege with Schizo-Art Bollocks: a review of Michael Portnoy 
talk at a Liverpool Biennial event, 8th March 2016.

"Portnoy continually posed himself as wilfully blind to the oppressive 
political structures which his work took part in, despite invoking the language 
and names of critical thinkers who would be enlightening on such subjects — an 
oversight I address 
here."https://medium.com/@nathmercy/portnoy-complaint-982d9d970fcf#.c6npu8rhc


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Re: [NetBehaviour] review: Monetise Your Privilege with Schizo-Art Bollocks

2016-03-22 Thread Rob Myers

On 2016-03-22 04:04, marc garrett wrote:

Hi Nathan,

Thanks for posting this review of yours on Netbehaviour.

All I can say right now (but will likely say more) is, Wow! This work
sounds not only tedious, but also decadent and shallow, and reliant on
other people's conditions of not being able to fight back, against a
privileged form of exploitation. Thanks Nathan - an article that
needed to be written so the emptiness in the mainstream art world is
challenged.


Definitely a project that gets the ethics/aesthetics equation very badly 
wrong.


"“money talks nonsense” and it is the cognitive labourer’s job to 
produce meaning-as-value from it" has legs.


- Rob.
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Re: [NetBehaviour] review: Monetise Your Privilege with Schizo-Art Bollocks

2016-03-22 Thread marc garrett
Hi Nathan,

Thanks for posting this review of yours on Netbehaviour.

All I can say right now (but will likely say more) is, Wow! This work
sounds not only tedious, but also decadent and shallow, and reliant on
other people's conditions of not being able to fight back, against a
privileged form of exploitation. Thanks Nathan - an article that needed to
be written so the emptiness in the mainstream art world is challenged.

Wishing you well.

marc

On 22 March 2016 at 10:22, nathan jones  wrote:

> Monetise Your Privilege with Schizo-Art Bollocks: a review of Michael
> Portnoy talk at a Liverpool Biennial event, 8th March 2016.
>
> "Portnoy continually posed himself as wilfully blind to the oppressive
> political structures which his work took part in, despite invoking the
> language and names of critical thinkers who would be enlightening on such
> subjects — an oversight I address here."
> https://medium.com/@nathmercy/portnoy-complaint-982d9d970fcf#.c6npu8rhc
>
>
>
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> Nathan Jones
> Creative Director at Mercy
>
> http://mercyonline.co.uk
> http://torquetorque.tumblr.com
> http://alittlenathan.co.uk
> http://electronicvoicepheneomena.net
>
> mob: 07877660150
> twtr: @nathmercy
>
> also follow @syn_dro_me
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1996

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[NetBehaviour] review: Monetise Your Privilege with Schizo-Art Bollocks

2016-03-22 Thread nathan jones
Monetise Your Privilege with Schizo-Art Bollocks: a review of Michael
Portnoy talk at a Liverpool Biennial event, 8th March 2016.

"Portnoy continually posed himself as wilfully blind to the oppressive
political structures which his work took part in, despite invoking the
language and names of critical thinkers who would be enlightening on such
subjects — an oversight I address here."
https://medium.com/@nathmercy/portnoy-complaint-982d9d970fcf#.c6npu8rhc



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