Re: [NetBehaviour] Art, Lifestyle and Globalisation.

2007-03-29 Thread Rob Myers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The phrase Open Source is a deliberately meaningless term. Only when it's used by artists/curators to describe the process of creating art? Whenever it is used. It was created specifically as a replacement for the phrase Free Software to avoid mentioning Freedom.

Re: [NetBehaviour] First Armed Robots on Patrol in Iraq (Updated).

2007-08-04 Thread Rob Myers
Andrej Tisma wrote: The machines had a tendency to spin out of control from time to time. Great, and how will they call friendly fire now? - Crazy robot fire ;-) They have a kill switch for the robot, so if its systems go out of control, you can use that part of the system (which will of

Re: [NetBehaviour] First Armed Robots on Patrol in Iraq (Updated).

2007-08-04 Thread Rob Myers
Andrej Tisma wrote: Yes, but how will they decide to use kill switch. If the system fails. Basically if it goes wrong. How many liberators have to be shot down before the switch is used? If the robot goes out of control then none. Remember, the robot is just a remote controlled gun. It

Re: [NetBehaviour] communication: 'ype:t_comm'

2007-08-20 Thread Rob Myers
james jwm-art net wrote: I'm not sure I want to read the nonsense in the arts council debate! Well it's good that they're trying. I did post a comment here: http://www.artscouncil.org.uk/artsdebate/2007/02/when_should_an_artist_receive.php Which is easier to find here:

[NetBehaviour] OurSpace - Review

2007-08-21 Thread Rob Myers
OurSpace by Christine Harold. http://www.upress.umn.edu/Books/H/harold_ourspace.html In OurSpace Christine Harold has produced a deep, subtle and thought-provoking history and critique of the strategies that activists have used to try to resist corporate enclosure of public social space over

[NetBehaviour] Digital Artists Need Our Support

2007-12-12 Thread Rob Myers
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/art/2007/11/digital_artists_need_our_suppo.html Digital moving arts have come a long way since the 80s video art scene and I'm honoured to be a judge for the inaugural Jerwood Moving Image awards ___ NetBehaviour mailing

Re: [NetBehaviour] RHIZOME_RAW: Neil Clark : Kosovo a Crisis of The West's Own Making

2007-12-23 Thread Rob Myers
Andrej Tisma wrote: A crisis of West's own making by Neil Clark Neil Clark, and I need to be careful here due to the UK's libel laws, is not generally regarded as a leading authority on the Balkans conflict of the 1990s as far as I know. It is true that e.g. the Conservative government of

Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: Mickey Mouse Bill

2008-05-15 Thread Rob Myers
james jwm-art net quoth: The convention of putting a little c with a circle around it became redundant in the U.S. in 1976. In current copyright law, every drawing, painting, photograph, poem or play is simply owned by you the author. If somebody swipes it, or uses it without your

Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: Mickey Mouse Bill

2008-05-17 Thread Rob Myers
bob catchpole wrote: My real point, which you don't address, is that copyright is a universal, automatic right. ONLY in the States it means nothing if you don't register. In the US, copyright means that you can stop people copying your work without permission. It is quite literally the

Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: Mickey Mouse Bill

2008-05-18 Thread Rob Myers
bob catchpole wrote: Rob Myers wrote: Registration only affects damages where copyright is infringed. So if someone uses your work without permission and you haven't registered you're not entitled to damages. ONLY in the States. It is possible to register afterwards and claim damages

[NetBehaviour] A Critique Of Copyfarleft

2008-06-04 Thread Rob Myers
http://www.metamute.org/en/copyfarleft_a_critique - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour

[NetBehaviour] Friending The Aesthetic

2008-07-08 Thread Rob Myers
http://robmyers.org/weblog/2008/07/08/friending-the-aesthetic/ Friend the aesthetic on MySpace. Like blue? Friend it here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_blue Like red? Friend it here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_red Like yellow? Friend it here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_yellow Like

Re: [NetBehaviour] Roof and The Accidental Artist Announcement

2008-07-09 Thread Rob Myers
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Alan Sondheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Announcement: That if you haven't been to the Exhibition, The Accidental Artist, at Second Life, do so now! For once the materials have been pushed to the limit; what you see, experience, could not exist otherwise, i.e. in

Re: [NetBehaviour] Let's Play SET!

2008-07-14 Thread Rob Myers
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 2:03 AM, The Art Gallery of Knoxville [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SET / Erik Carver Marisa Jahn In the grand tradition of generals and surrealists, we have been playing games. People learn things better through the open-ended, empathetic participation in knowledge-making

Re: [NetBehaviour] Second Life Faces Open Source Challenges.

2008-07-15 Thread Rob Myers
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:45 PM, marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The root of the change that Linden Lab is facing is the open-source OpenSimulator project. Working with the protocols derived from the official Second Life client, and a knowledge of how Second Life works, these people

Re: [NetBehaviour] Second Life Faces Open Source Challenges.

2008-07-15 Thread Rob Myers
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Pall Thayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People like Microsoft can use this as an example of how viral open source is and how it's going to destroy your business model if you use a single piece of open source software. Both Microsoft and IBM have people working on

Re: [NetBehaviour] software

2008-07-17 Thread Rob Myers
2008/7/17 KH Jeron [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please keep in mind that gimp for mac still relies on X11, which might be anoying ... Setting focus follows mouse makes it tolerable. There's an OS X-ified version of the Gimp core: http://seashore.sourceforge.net/ And native OS X Gimp is coming along

Re: [NetBehaviour] software

2008-07-17 Thread Rob Myers
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Pall Thayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never understood why they don't just include X11 in the default installation. Must be some sort of licensing thing. No the licence wouldn't impact it, it's a BSD-style licence. I think it's more that they consider it a

Re: [NetBehaviour] exist.pl An introspective metaphysical and ontological investigation from the standpoint of a program running on a computer

2008-07-23 Thread Rob Myers
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Pall Thayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any and all suggestions and comments are welcome whether posted on Google Code or here on Netbehaviour. Signal handlers might be good. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list

Re: [NetBehaviour] New developments - On Being/exist.pl

2008-07-25 Thread Rob Myers
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Pall Thayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it worth adding a simple neural net so the program can draw its own conclusions? :-) But see, that's where things begin to get really hairy. Would such conclusions really be the program's conclusions? Wouldn't it be

Re: [NetBehaviour] New developments - On Being/exist.pl

2008-07-25 Thread Rob Myers
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:44 PM, james jwm-art net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a quick thought: how about a client/server model? so there could be several components communicating with each other? Or peer-to-peer, for a more equal society. ;-) - Rob.

Re: [NetBehaviour] exist.pl and communication, what next?

2008-07-30 Thread Rob Myers
The program could be made self-modifying so it changes from generation to generation (I think I mentioned this before but I do like the idea ;-) ): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymorphic_code It could have a simple emotional system, like the one from The Sims (this code is public so I don't

Re: [NetBehaviour] exist.pl and communication, what next?

2008-08-01 Thread Rob Myers
Pall Thayer wrote: For now here's the updated source code with the communications socket that outputs the programs code when something is sent. Oh cool. The Affero GPL requires just this behaviour as part of programs covered by it, so it might be conceptually interesting to licence this

Re: [NetBehaviour] can you help us translate these hackers?

2008-08-14 Thread Rob Myers
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:54 PM, marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: basically, It seems as though furtherfield has been hacked by some islamic extremists, or whatever label defined them best... It's a Saudi flag. Searching for the two parts of the string the images are titled with

Re: [NetBehaviour] Cartographers Against Google Maps.

2008-09-02 Thread Rob Myers
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 1:03 AM, marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except, that's not quite true. After all, Google Maps allows all sorts of overlays and additional info. Allows is right. Open Street Map is much better: http://openstreetmap.org/ - Rob.

Re: [NetBehaviour] The Jeremy Bailey Interview on the Netbehaviour.

2008-09-11 Thread Rob Myers
/10/Wargames.jpg Airbrush Typography: http://www.jerrydroberts.com/brokedowncinema/Poster/XanaduPoster.jpg - - Rob Myers. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

Re: [NetBehaviour] this code is not my own

2008-09-28 Thread Rob Myers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 benjamin wrote: how the industrial revolution has put an end to our beautiful notions of gothisism. JODI's 404 was informational picturesque desolation, and so is much of the nomination-for-semiopsy of surf clubs or pro surfers, so I think there's

Re: [NetBehaviour] Great Game II: America Lashes Out on the Borders of China and Russia.

2008-10-08 Thread Rob Myers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 marc garrett wrote: Great Game II: America Lashes Out on the Borders of China and Russia I will bet you a pound that this includes the nationalist encirclement meme. [Checks essay.] I really should have said a tenner. ;-) - - Rob. -BEGIN PGP

Re: [NetBehaviour] Is Fair Use decided by who has the most money?

2008-10-11 Thread Rob Myers
mark cooley wrote: The average citizen probably has much less of a chance getting sued for using copyrighted material. Their work can be removed from the internet without the need for the expense of a lawsuit, though. There are plenty of examples of this from YouTube. It's probably

Re: [NetBehaviour] Is Fair Use decided by who has the most money?

2008-10-11 Thread Rob Myers
bob catchpole wrote: From that stance Fair Use = Fair Abuse. Don't abuse my argument. ;-) If we decide that Fair Use can only apply where the rights holder for the original work does not object to the use of it then we destroy Fair Use and legitimize an expansive and insidious form of

Re: [NetBehaviour] powerfulart

2008-10-14 Thread Rob Myers
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 1:34 PM, clemos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's Casey Reas at #96 ! Reas is interesting in that the entire internet data visualization genre is basically a footnote to his PhD. ;-) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list

Re: [NetBehaviour] powerfulart

2008-10-14 Thread Rob Myers
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 3:55 PM, bob catchpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Banksy or Bank-rupt-sy? The difference in property value and aesthetic value is the ratio that creates the worth of a Banksy. So as the value of the wall it is attached to falls, the value of the Banksy will actually rise.

Re: [NetBehaviour] Heather Corcoran Aymeric Mansoux interviewed on Netbehaviour about pure:dyne.

2008-10-15 Thread Rob Myers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 marc garrett wrote: Heather Corcoran Aymeric Mansoux interviewed on Netbehaviour about pure:dyne. Marc Garrett will be discussing with Heather Corcoran and Aymeric Mansoux about the pure:dyne project on the www.netbehaviour.org email list.

Re: [NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion

2008-10-17 Thread Rob Myers
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 8:47 AM, aymeric mansoux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except that they were not any type of users, they were artists, who had in fact very similar needs to ours. From teaching, to using the system for performances/installation, and even using it as main operating system.

Re: [NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion

2008-10-19 Thread Rob Myers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 aymeric mansoux wrote: Hi Rob, [...] It was a natural thing to do. We've always been working on minimal environments, which, to paraphrase the UNIX philosophy, needs to do one thing and one thing well. In the context of windows manager that

Re: [NetBehaviour] pure:dyne discussion

2008-10-27 Thread Rob Myers
As a result of the discussion I have installed pure:dyne on my laptop and I am sending this message from it. :-) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour

Re: [NetBehaviour] Back from our break away...

2008-11-17 Thread Rob Myers
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:28 AM, marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While there, we read and discussed these books below: [...] FLOSS+Art. Published by OpenMute, with the support of the University of Huddersfield and the ?Willem de Kooning Academie. http://goto10.org/flossart/ What did

Re: [NetBehaviour] Back from our break away...

2008-11-17 Thread Rob Myers
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 1:23 PM, marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found Simon Yuill's text very interesting, so much so that I have read it twice now. Yes I missed it when it was in Mute but it is very good. I've now bought an old ICA Scratch Orchestra catalogue and a CD of some of The

Re: [NetBehaviour] Pall Thayer work for sale

2008-11-19 Thread Rob Myers
as comparing Malevich's and Ad Reinhardt's black squares. /* Copyright 2008 (c) Rob Myers. All rights reserved. Eyes only. DO NOT COMPILE. Edition of ten. 1/10. */ #include stdio.h int main (int argc, char * argv[]) { printf (Hello world!\n); return 0; } You can have your own copy for 1000GBP

Re: [NetBehaviour] Back from our break away...

2008-11-19 Thread Rob Myers
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:55 PM, marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. Many of the texts are available online elsewhere. And all are under at least one Free licence in the book, so readers of the book are free to copy and share what they need to. Cool - I will have another look, perhaps a

Re: [NetBehaviour] about a cow

2008-11-20 Thread Rob Myers
Ooh I like that! - Rob. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:14 PM, james of jwm-art net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: image attachment generated by: http://jwm-art.net/cssnaketrix/snaketrix.php?file=submission-07.txt ___ NetBehaviour mailing list

Re: [NetBehaviour] Back from our break away...

2008-11-25 Thread Rob Myers
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:55 PM, marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the moment, 'thenextlayer' Drupal site is down. I have emailed Armin asking him when it will be up again. It's back up. :-) http://www.thenextlayer.org/node/573 - Rob. ___

Re: [NetBehaviour] Furtherfield on wikipedia

2008-11-26 Thread Rob Myers
Here is the discussion page for the original deletion - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Furtherfield Here are the notability criteria for web sites - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WEB We need to assemble examples of mentions of Furtherfield in web, media

Re: [NetBehaviour] Furtherfield on wikipedia

2008-11-26 Thread Rob Myers
The major thing that is needed is national (UK) and international news and book coverage of Furtherfield. So the Neural articles are great. BBC bio ref: http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/shootinglive/2003/completelyfurther/biog.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/shootinglive/2003/completelyfurther/ Mute

[NetBehaviour] Wikipedia - Don't Sweat The Small Stuff

2008-12-01 Thread Rob Myers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:WALL-E#WALL-A_units_resemble_giant_WALL-E_units. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour

[NetBehaviour] Friending The Aesthetic (reminder)

2008-12-06 Thread Rob Myers
Friend the aesthetic on MySpace. Like blue? Friend it here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_blue Like red? Friend it here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_red Like yellow? Friend it here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_yellow Like squares? Friend them here: http://myspace.com/aesthetic_square

[NetBehaviour] Wikipedia Loves Art at the VA in February

2008-12-22 Thread Rob Myers
Get involved in a free culture art history photography event in London in February - Wikipedia Loves Art at the Victoria and Albert Museum is a free content photography contest organised by the Victoria and Albert Museum, Wikimedia UK and other Wikipedians. It is due to take place in February

Re: [NetBehaviour] Is it just me?

2009-01-04 Thread Rob Myers
The excellent p2p foundation blog (subscribe! subscribe!) had a relevant post today - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/optimism-as-a-political-act/2009/01/04 “Pessimism is a luxury we can only afford in good times, in difficult times it easily represents a self-inflicted, self-fulfilling death

Re: [NetBehaviour] How to view The Accidental Artist exhibition in Second Life

2009-01-05 Thread Rob Myers
Alan Sondheim wrote: How to view The Accidental Artist exhibition in Second Life I hadn't logged in to Second Life for a couple of months. On my return I rezzed in the last location I'd visited. My avatar was trapped in the middle of The Accidental Artist. After five minutes of enjoying

Re: [NetBehaviour] Is it just me (trad-posturing)?

2009-01-07 Thread Rob Myers
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:11 PM, dave miller dave.miller...@gmail.com wrote: I showed her my networked media work - she thought the images were good, but the fact that endless variations can be created would confuse buyers, who want uniqueness. The whole network generated/ collaborative

[NetBehaviour] Ex Machina

2009-01-12 Thread Rob Myers
http://www.artquest.org.uk/projects/ex-machina.htm Exploring digital manufacturing in fine art, crafts and design practice A one-day conference held at Royal Institute of British Architects (RIBA), London 24 February 2009 Tickets only £25 (subsidised from £130) Booking now open - use the booking

[NetBehaviour] Fwd: [ORG-discuss] London Hack Space

2009-01-26 Thread Rob Myers
-- Forwarded message -- From: Jonty Wareing jo...@jonty.co.uk Date: Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:11 PM Subject: [ORG-discuss] London Hack Space To: org-disc...@lists.openrightsgroup.org For some time now London has been in need of a proper hacker space. The number of hacking groups

Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: [ORG-discuss] London Hack Space

2009-01-26 Thread Rob Myers
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk wrote: A good precursor example, that most here are probably familiar with, is Access Space / Redundant Technology Initiative (Sheffield), run by James Wallbank. More hardware hacking, but nevertheless relevant. It worked! Access

[NetBehaviour] Fwd: [CAS] Computer art, games and business - Professor William Latham's inaugural @ Goldsmiths, 3/02/09

2009-01-29 Thread Rob Myers
There's a Latham evolutionary art poster in this weeks New Scientist as well. - Rob. -- Forwarded message -- From: Paul Brown p...@paul-brown.com Date: Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 3:10 PM Subject: [CAS] Computer art, games and business - Professor William Latham's inaugural @

Re: [NetBehaviour] P22 Music Text Composition Generator.

2009-01-30 Thread Rob Myers
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 12:39 PM, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: The idea was basic and simple-every letter of the alphabet was assigned to a note on a scale. Didn't Mozart use something like this for commissions? I don't mean the dice game named after him, I'm sure I heard

Re: [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something?

2009-02-03 Thread Rob Myers
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:31 PM, richard willis listse...@richtextformat.co.uk wrote: why write 'i put my pen on the table' when you could write 'i put my plastic-and-ink-writing-tool' on the 'wooden-platform-held-up-on-four-wooden-legs'? Theory would render this as the phallic vehicle of the

Re: [NetBehaviour] Charles Darwin is...

2009-02-04 Thread Rob Myers
Unlike Jesus, Dawin existed though. ;-) http://www.swarthmore.edu/NatSci/cpurrin1/evolk12/posse/chazhasaposse.htm http://www.darwinfish.co.uk/ - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org

Re: [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something, yawn

2009-02-04 Thread Rob Myers
Art *is* the specialised language. Being smart at medicine is no good when a car won't start. But being good at quoting Theory is good no matter what, apparently, much like the transferable skills of management. The idea that Theory is the proper domain language of art is one that needs

Re: [NetBehaviour] Bill Gates Unleashes Swarm of Mosquitoes on Crowd.

2009-02-06 Thread Rob Myers
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:21 AM, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: Bill Gates Unleashes Swarm of Mosquitoes on Crowd. , announces disappointment at laws covering bats, berates genetics industry for failure to create flying monkeys. - Rob.

Re: [NetBehaviour] Bill Gates Unleashes Swarm of Mosquitoes on Crowd.

2009-02-06 Thread Rob Myers
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 10:55 AM, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: As you no doubt know, patenting the human genome is more profitable - it's like having a herd of cows standing around outside your door not earning you anything - a waste of product. Burghers of the body,

Re: [NetBehaviour] [Fwd: BOYCOTT BLOOMBERG - CALL FOR CONTRIBUTIONS]

2009-02-16 Thread Rob Myers
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Michael Szpakowski szp...@yahoo.com wrote: I worry that there is a conflation of two issues here, that could lead to this project being perceived as anti-semitic and, worse, actually engendering anti-semitism, rather than political opposition to the state of

Re: [NetBehaviour] [Fwd: BOYCOTT BLOOMBERG - CALL FOR CONTRIBUTIONS]

2009-02-16 Thread Rob Myers
Simon Biggs wrote: It isn’t clear whether the target of the boycott is Bloomberg the person, the politician (mayor of NYC, etc) or the corporation - one of the largest news companies in the world which sets agendas in government and the media? If either of the latter then I’d say they are fair

Re: [NetBehaviour] Slurp

2009-02-17 Thread Rob Myers
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:29 PM, james of jwm-art net ja...@jwm-art.net wrote: Action hero drowning in swap, can't reach [ctrl-c] caption:wikipedia art can't help me now. slurp. THIS IS THE VOICE OF THE DELETIONISTS. WE KNOW THAT YOU CAN HEAR US. OUR RETALIATION WILL BE SLOW, BUT

Re: [NetBehaviour] boycotts etc

2009-02-18 Thread Rob Myers
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk wrote: My ill-considered knee-jerk reaction to this statement is to ask which truth? I seriously hope you are joking... I don't understand what you are saying here? - Rob. ___

Re: [NetBehaviour] boycotts etc

2009-02-18 Thread Rob Myers
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:38 PM, mark cooley flawed...@yahoo.com wrote: I'll never understand why any criticism of Israel is automatically taken as racism by some. I'll never understand why some racists think they can shut down debate by saying this. The project is not (simply) criticism of

Re: [NetBehaviour] boycotts etc

2009-02-18 Thread Rob Myers
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk wrote: Truth is a highly contentious term. Is this true? Perhaps I missed something? If there is no single truth in respect of any given issue then you cannot say that someone's claim that all artists are seekers after truth is

Re: [NetBehaviour] boycotts etc

2009-02-19 Thread Rob Myers
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk wrote: Without relativism there would be no argument. With relativism there is no argument, because there is nothing to argue about. We can continue in our solipsistic bubbles regardless of the screams and shouts from outside, safe

Re: [NetBehaviour] boycotts etc

2009-02-19 Thread Rob Myers
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk wrote: I would hope you would see that many people (hopefully myself included) have a nuanced understanding of the situation in Israel and yet can still be furious about what the Israeli government does. Yes I agree with this. -

Re: [NetBehaviour] boycott bloom

2009-02-20 Thread Rob Myers
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:22 AM, mark cooley flawed...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGgBjZTsPaw there's no such thing as a proportional response to terrorism. NY mayor and media mogul Mike Bloomberg talks about the killing ratio of 100 to 1 Palestinians to Israeli deaths

Re: [NetBehaviour] boycott etc

2009-02-20 Thread Rob Myers
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 4:15 PM, mark cooley flawed...@yahoo.com wrote: unless you consider Rob's comment about truth seriously If you have actually read (I hesitate to say understood) what I have written you'll know that I have made more than one comment regarding truth. Which ones do you

[NetBehaviour] How To Recognize Different Kinds Of Trees From Quite A Long Way Away

2009-02-21 Thread Rob Myers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRKVXG3DV-I signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour

Re: [NetBehaviour] Ada Lovelace Day.

2009-03-01 Thread Rob Myers
marc garrett wrote: rasputina (melora creager)- my orphanage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyNSl7aDNh8 Zoe Keating's (ex Rasputina) solo cello stuff is excellent, more cybernetic than retro. There's a cyberfeminist take on female string performers with digital delays that needs to be written,

Re: [NetBehaviour] UK Government Wants To Bypass Data Protection Act.

2009-03-04 Thread Rob Myers
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:16 AM, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: Clause 152 of the Coroners and Justice Bill, currently being debated by the UK Parliament, would allow any Minister by order to take from anywhere any information gathered for one purpose [...] NO2ID has

[NetBehaviour] Wikipedia's Epistemology Again

2009-03-05 Thread Rob Myers
http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/the-epistemology-of-wikipedia/2009/02/26 See the first comment for more. - Rob. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org

Re: [NetBehaviour] Jack Straw gets a pretty massive bashing on the Guardian Blog.

2009-03-09 Thread Rob Myers
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:22 PM, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: Jack Straw gets a pretty massive bashing on the Guardian Blog. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/feb/27/freedom-of-information-straw?commentpage=6 Thanks, that's made my day. :-) - Rob.

[NetBehaviour] Facebook in the 1750s

2009-03-16 Thread Rob Myers
http://bibliodyssey.blogspot.com/2009/03/facebook-in-1750s.html signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour

Re: [NetBehaviour] meeting space?

2009-03-17 Thread Rob Myers
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Ruth Catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org wrote: does anyone know of and/or use a FLOSS equivalent of the package of tools found in Windows Meeting Space? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Meeting_Space For which operating systems, and for what kind of

Re: [NetBehaviour] getting onto furtherfield.org

2009-03-17 Thread Rob Myers
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 3:43 PM, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: Hi all, I wonder if you can help us? Some are having trouble getting www.furtherfield.org on their browser - could some others do us a favour and visit the link and let us know if it's ok? Looks great, and

Re: [NetBehaviour] Freedom Fry —“Happy birthday to GNU”

2009-03-25 Thread Rob Myers
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:06 PM, james morris ja...@jwm-art.net wrote: Ummm, thought this was interesting. Dunno where I've been for the past six months. Good old Stephen Fry  (BBC comedian/entertainer/presenter) bigging up FLOSS. http://www.gnu.org/fry/ If people haven't watched it

Re: [NetBehaviour] ada lovelace day

2009-03-27 Thread Rob Myers
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Ruth Catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org wrote: There's still plenty of time. The call doesn't close till 12 midnight on Monday. That's a relief, as I missed the actual day due to jet lag. :-) I know some people I'm about to mention have already been covered

Re: [NetBehaviour] Transformative Works and Cultures.

2009-03-30 Thread Rob Myers
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:43 AM, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: Transformative Works and Cultures. Transformative Works and Cultures (TWC) is an online-only Gold Open Access international peer-reviewed journal published by the Organization for Transformative Works

Re: [NetBehaviour] Transformative Works and Cultures.

2009-03-30 Thread Rob Myers
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:19 PM, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: When you say (on your blog) ...If every work is derivative anyway then there should be no special penalty or responsibility attached to works that recognise this. But also no special exemption. ;-) An

Re: [NetBehaviour] Free Expression Assault Continues at UN HumanRights Council.

2009-03-30 Thread Rob Myers
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:51 PM, james morris ja...@jwm-art.net wrote: I retain the right to treat all religions with equal and utter disdain. what about governing bodies? are they more or less deserving? They are not the subjects of the current activity at the UNHRC, though. The UN has not

[NetBehaviour] Ada Lovelace Comic Strip

2009-04-01 Thread Rob Myers
Via Suw Charman Anderson (social media activist and former Open Rights Group head) on Twitter: http://sydneypadua.com/2009/03/24/ada-lovelace-day/ http://sydneypadua.com/2009/03/31/the-lovelace-adventures-pt-2/ - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list

Re: [NetBehaviour] Angry villagers run Google Street View out of town.

2009-04-03 Thread Rob Myers
marc garrett wrote: Jacobs claims residents were worried that the photographs were an invasion of their privacy Because people who walk down the street usually have to avert their eyes or something? ;-) The right to take photographs in public was won over a century ago. Google are just

Re: [NetBehaviour] The Pirate Bay to roll out secure EUR5 per month VPN service.

2009-04-03 Thread Rob Myers
Michael Zeltner wrote: What's his name? I'd be interested to look further into it. There's always a strange correlation between file sharers, free speech advocates and fascists. Err no there isn't. At least not a coterminous one. - Rob. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [NetBehaviour] Wikipedia challenges Wikipedia Art

2009-04-24 Thread Rob Myers
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Scott Kildall lu...@kildall.com wrote: A few weeks ago, I was sent a letter from the Wikimedia legal counsel (they run Wikipedia) which challenged the Wikipedia Art project (specifically the domain name, which I was the registrant of) on the grounds of

Re: [NetBehaviour] Wikipedia challenges Wikipedia Art

2009-04-24 Thread Rob Myers
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Pall Thayer pallt...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I broke down and looked it up... on Wikipedia. The fair use provision for trademarks sounds a bit strange. It actually sounds to me like it's intended more for commercial criticism than non-commercial in that the

Re: [NetBehaviour] Wikipedia challenges Wikipedia Art

2009-04-24 Thread Rob Myers
I blogged about this - http://www.robmyers.org/weblog/2009/04/24/wikimedia-hates-art/ And I think the events are probably notable enough to deserve a Wikipedia page. ;-) - Rob. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ NetBehaviour

Re: [NetBehaviour] Neural issue 32 - Machine Affection

2009-04-29 Thread Rob Myers
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:32 AM, info i...@furtherfield.org wrote:  Neural issue 32 - Machine Affection http://www.neural.it/art/2009/04/post_3.phtml It's really good! If you're not reading Neural you're missing out... - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour

Re: [NetBehaviour] what makes a notable life? [wikipedia]

2009-05-05 Thread Rob Myers
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:42 PM, lo...@resist.ca wrote: I added a simple, straightforward page for myself, DJ lotu5, so that I could help expand the knowledge about mixed reality performance art in wikipedia You don't need an entry in Wikipedia about yourself in order to add information to

Re: [NetBehaviour] New project Zumzum Gallery: Counter Theory of Colors

2009-05-18 Thread Rob Myers
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Montserrat Bru Manobens zumzumgall...@gmail.com wrote: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/color Here´s a tip for you: check before you make a complete fool out of yourself AGAIN http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/colour colour (US color) - Rob.

[NetBehaviour] Cybernetic Microblogging

2009-05-27 Thread Rob Myers
The Cybernetic Artwork Nobody Wrote is now on identi.ca (and mirrored on twitter): http://identi.ca/cybernetic http://twitter.com/cyberneticart It's being critiqued by The Cybernetic Critic: http://identi.ca/cybercritic Follow them and see inside the workings of a miniature artworld. Send

Re: [NetBehaviour] An Artist's Guide for Editing Wikipedia.

2009-05-29 Thread Rob Myers
karen blissett wrote: Thanks. Go for it! ;-) - Rob. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour

Re: [NetBehaviour] Hello worl by Yunchul Kim Endo by Verena Friedrich

2009-06-02 Thread Rob Myers
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Olga olga.pana...@gmail.com wrote: /  Hello World - Yunchul Kim  \ Hello world is an installation by Yunchul Kim that contains a codified audio signal that circulates in a closed (feedback) system, consisting of a computer, a

[NetBehaviour] Wifipicning

2009-06-03 Thread Rob Myers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wifipicning The term Wifipicning, a combination of the words WiFi, picnic, and happening, describes a social gathering of people, similar to the flashmobs or other social networks born out of new communication technologies. Strangers and friends alike gather with

[NetBehaviour] http://www.iphoneart.org/

2009-06-03 Thread Rob Myers
Does what it says on the tin. We need a Free Android (of canvas+JS) one... - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour

[NetBehaviour] Steganography 2.0: Digital Resistance against Repressive Regimes

2009-06-05 Thread Rob Myers
A team of Polish steganographers at the Institute of Telecommunications in Warsaw are doing some neat work that should be of interest to digital activists. Steganography is is the art and science of writing hidden messages in such a way that no one, apart from the sender and intended recipient,

[NetBehaviour] Programmable Matter

2009-06-09 Thread Rob Myers
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/06/universal-rubiks-cube-could-become-pentagon-shapeshifter Download a sculpture to some programmable matter, download another when styles change, save materials and aesthetics. ;-) ___ NetBehaviour mailing list

[NetBehaviour] On Paintr

2009-06-14 Thread Rob Myers
I came up with the idea for paintr one Friday morning in 2005 while thinking about Harold Cohen's arguments regarding computer art in his essays and while thinking about the work of Pall Thayer. Paintr's tag line was art in the age of network services, or art as a network service. By lunchtime

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