Re: vt100

2017-12-30 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Sat, 30 Dec 2017, the wise Kamil Rytarowski wrote: I'm attempting to login to OpenVMS and it's breaking the screen with vt100 sequences. Command line mostly works, but editors and other programs aren't usable. I'm having the same problem. Login in with ssh into my OpenVMS machine with

Mouse cursors in NetBSD with default X11/TWM

2017-09-05 Thread Marco Beishuizen
Hi, I'd like to change the mouse cursor in NetBSD (7.1 i386). I don't use a desktop environment, just X11 with TWM. The only mouse cursor available is the standard one, but this can't be resized or is available in white. In pkgsrc there are no mouse cursors to install. I like the "dmz-theme",

Re: Installing FF 52 from pkgsrc: "stable" version instead of nightly

2017-03-13 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Mon, 13 Mar 2017, the wise co...@sdf.org wrote: Mozilla maintains an 'Extended Support Release' which has security fixes backported to it, so it will be a better choice for such cases. Currently, it is www/firefox45 - it is updated whenever www/firefox is, containing fixes for the same

Re: Installing FF 52 from pkgsrc: "stable" version instead of nightly

2017-03-13 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Mon, 13 Mar 2017, the wise Martin Husemann wrote: If anyone has receipes to easily make it crash, please send-pr! Debugging often is simple, if you can reproduce it. I'll fire off an i386 build with debug info tonight... I'm unable to pinpoint the problem because FF crashes on every site

Re: Installing FF 52 from pkgsrc: "stable" version instead of nightly

2017-03-11 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Sat, 11 Mar 2017, the wise Martin Husemann wrote: On what architecture is that? It's on NetBSD/i386 7.0.2. -- This is the LAST time I take travel suggestions from Ray Bradbury!

Re: Installing FF 52 from pkgsrc: "stable" version instead of nightly

2017-03-11 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Sat, 11 Mar 2017, the wise Martin Husemann wrote: On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 09:06:03PM +0100, Marco Beishuizen wrote: I'm rebuilding it as we speak with the suggested option so I'm hoping that it's a bit more than just a logo thing. No, it is just the logo. Unfortunately just as crashy

Re: Installing FF 52 from pkgsrc: "stable" version instead of nightly

2017-03-11 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Sat, 11 Mar 2017, the wise co...@sdf.org wrote: To add to what jak said, it is the stable version. It just lacks the trademarked Mozilla stuff like their logo. There was some drama in the past which resulted in this being a build option, you can read about it here:

Installing FF 52 from pkgsrc: "stable" version instead of nightly

2017-03-11 Thread Marco Beishuizen
Hi, Installing FF from /usr/pkgsrc/www/firefox always results in the "nightly" version of FF. But I want the regular stable/release version. How do I do that? Even installing the esr version results in a nightly version. Regards, Marco -- Boys are beyond the range of anybody's sure

Re: NetBSD installer failure

2017-03-03 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017, the wise Al Zick wrote: I am trying to get NetBSD installed at a data center. They say the installer always fails in the same spot. Here is a screenshot: http://datazap.net/sites/14/hang.jpg Does anyone have any ideas as to why? In the dmesg of my NetBSD machine,

Re: /bin/sh command history in NetBSD/i386

2017-02-01 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Wed, 1 Feb 2017, the wise Robert Elz wrote: /etc/profile and .profile are read only in login shells. By default an xterm won't start its shell that way - you need the -ls option to the xterm, or have "xterm*loginShell: true" in your X resources. ... How are you actually

Re: /bin/sh command history in NetBSD/i386

2017-02-01 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Wed, 1 Feb 2017, the wise Christos Zoulas wrote: That's good, it is the standard ansi sequence for right arrow. In shell type: $ set -o emacs $ xbind Do you see the arrow key bindings? It seems that the users .shrc and .profile are not being read at login because after entering "set -o

Re: /bin/sh command history in NetBSD/i386

2017-02-01 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Wed, 1 Feb 2017, the wise Robert Elz wrote: As long as that was from the right arrow key, that's fine (up arrow, the most relevant for getting started with cmd line editing should have A instead of C) Yes indeed it was the right arrow key :). I got your off-list message, not terribly

Re: /bin/sh command history in NetBSD/i386

2017-02-01 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Wed, 1 Feb 2017, the wise Christos Zoulas wrote: See what the arrow key prints: $ hexdump -C ^D This gives: ^[[C -- You're already carrying the sphere!

Re: /bin/sh command history in NetBSD/i386

2017-02-01 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Wed, 1 Feb 2017, the wise Cág wrote: It is strange because it works here and is what the man page recommends. Did you log out of all sessions? Yes, did log out all sessions. Even after a reboot no change. -- Yes, we will be going to OSI, Mars and, Pluto, but not necessarily in that order.

Re: /bin/sh command history in NetBSD/i386

2017-02-01 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Wed, 1 Feb 2017, the wise Stephen Borrill wrote: What's your terminal type? echo $TERM Both root and user are xterm. -- If your sexual fantasies were truly of interest to others, they would no longer be fantasies. -- Fran Lebowitz

Re: /bin/sh command history in NetBSD/i386

2017-02-01 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Tue, 31 Jan 2017, the wise Cág wrote: Try "set -o vi" or "set -o emacs" and "export ENV="$HOME/.shrc" in .profile. Unfortunately these didn't make any difference. Regards, Marco -- Real Users find the one combination of bizarre input values that shuts down the system for days.

/bin/sh command history in NetBSD/i386

2017-01-31 Thread Marco Beishuizen
Hi, I recently installed NetBSD 7.0.2 on an old laptop (i386). Both root and the user have /bin/sh as the (default) shell, but only root has a command history, using the arrow keys. I've also installed NetBSD on a DEC/Alpha but there is no problem and history works out of the box for the

Re: installboot command failed

2017-01-28 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Sat, 28 Jan 2017, the wise D'Arcy Cain wrote: Christos' suggestion is a good idea anyway. I struggled for a long time with an install on a drive that previously had Linux on it. I can't remember why I suddenly had the idea to zero the drive (I just did the whole thing) but installation

Re: installboot command failed

2017-01-28 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, the wise Christos Zoulas wrote: Can you try zeroing out the beginning of the disk manually from the shell? like: $ dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rwd0d count=10 christos I decided to write the complete failed command on a piece of paper and added the -f option, and entered

installboot command failed

2017-01-27 Thread Marco Beishuizen
Hi, I'm trying to install NetBSD/i386 on an old laptop (entire disk for NetBSD). After partitioning the installboot command fails with: installboot: Old BPB too big, use -f (may invalidate filesystem) installboot: Set bootstrap operation failed How to go from here? Installation is possible

Re: X and NetBSD Stable branch (alpha port)

2016-10-23 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Sun, 23 Oct 2016, the wise Michael wrote: X in -current should work on (some?) PCI alphas, I don't know to what extent or which drivers have been tested though. The glint driver should work ( I assisted in making that happen a while ago ), possibly the radeon driver, but that's about it,

X and NetBSD Stable branch (alpha port)

2016-10-23 Thread Marco Beishuizen
Hi, I have a Digital PWS600au which currently runs NetBSD 7.0.1. The version of X included does not run on my alpha. Building Xorg from pkgsrc fails because of missing patches. If I follow the NetBSD Stable branch, are the latest patches then included in X? Or do I need to follow the

running X11: lowering securelevel to 0

2016-09-20 Thread Marco Beishuizen
Hi, It seems that in order to run X11, securelevel needs to be 0. But by default NetBSD runs at level 1. How can I lower the securelevel to 0? Once the securelevel has been set to 1, setting it in /etc/rc.conf back to 0 has no effect. Regards, Marco -- The idle man does not know what it is

Re: "No route to host" in Alpine

2016-03-01 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Tue, 1 Mar 2016, the wise J. Lewis Muir wrote: On 3/1/16 2:34 PM, Marco Beishuizen wrote: Does anyone know where to look for things like this? Just a guess, but maybe it tries IPv6 first and fails and prints that error, but then tries IPv4 and succeeds? Could be I don't know

"No route to host" in Alpine

2016-03-01 Thread Marco Beishuizen
Hi, I use Alpine as mailclient on a Digital PWS600au with NetBSD 7.0. When accessing my mailboxes (a couple of IMAP mailboxes, including my own ISP, and at Yahoo and Google), I always get an error of which I can't get rid of: "Can't connect to imap.isp.com,993: No route to host". But after

Re: create keys and certificates for postfix/tls

2016-02-29 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016, the wise Lucius Rizzo wrote: You have a few options. All involve the use of openssl to generate key or csr See https://www.madboa.com/geek/openssl/ 1. Create a self signed cert and point Postfix to use ssl key and pem which was self generated 2. Use letsencrypt (HIGHLY

create keys and certificates for postfix/tls

2016-02-28 Thread Marco Beishuizen
Hi, I'm trying to make Postfix work with TLS enabled. Looks like I need some certificates and keys. How do create them on NetBSD 7.0? Thanks in advance, Marco -- You've been leading a dog's life. Stay off the furniture.

Re: NetBSD-7.0 and mc in console

2016-02-11 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016, the wise Eric Haszlakiewicz wrote: Hmm... do you have wscons=YES in your rc.conf, and additional ttys enabled in /etc/ttys? Eric With this I can switch to multiple "consoles", but these have a blue background (like the SRM console, not black) and don't have a login

Re: NetBSD-7.0 and mc in console

2016-02-11 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016, the wise Marco Beishuizen wrote: Hmm... do you have wscons=YES in your rc.conf, and additional ttys enabled in /etc/ttys? With this I can switch to multiple "consoles", but these have a blue background (like the SRM console, not black) and don't have a log

Re: NetBSD-7.0 and mc in console

2016-02-10 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016, the wise Bert Kiers wrote: I recently installed NetBSD 7 on an old Digital PWS600au and build and installed Midnight Commander via pkgsrc. I also have such a box, so I could try. My problem is is that a lot of keyboard keys do not work, and that makes mc quite unusable.

Re: NetBSD-7.0 and mc in console

2016-02-10 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016, the wise Bob Bernstein wrote: Can you take advantage of mc's "Learn keys" under its "Options" menu? I can't get to the options because I then need F9, which doesn't work. -- The real problem with hunting elephants carrying the decoys.

Re: NetBSD-7.0 and mc in console

2016-02-10 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016, the wise Martin Husemann wrote: If it is console: make sure that your $TERM environment variable matches the settings for ttyE0 (or all ttyE*) in /etc/ttys. If you use X, use TERM=xterm (or something similar). For now I'm using console only. Will try X later with the

Re: NetBSD-7.0 and mc in console

2016-02-10 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016, the wise Swift Griggs wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 2016, Marco Beishuizen wrote: Can you take advantage of mc's "Learn keys" under its "Options" menu? I can't get to the options because I then need F9, which doesn't work. Sometimes escape-9 will do the

Re: NetBSD-7.0 and mc in console

2016-02-10 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016, the wise Bob Bernstein wrote: No. You only went half way through the "Learn Keys" process. The keys which did not spawn an "OK" are the very ones you must _return_ to and "teach." There are instructions on the Learn Keys screen. Yes, sorry should have read that

Re: NetBSD-7.0 and mc in console

2016-02-10 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016, the wise Bob Bernstein wrote: Once you get some key bindings you like via "Learn Keys," don't forget to save those settings..,also via an mc Options menu choice == "Save setup" -- before you exit mc. Yes did that :) Still got the feeling that the default console in

Re: NetBSD-7.0 and mc in console

2016-02-10 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016, the wise Eric Haszlakiewicz wrote: The hot key for switching consoles is *Control*-Alt-Fx Eric Ok thanks, but that doesn't work either. Regards, Marco -- Lavish spending can be disastrous. Don't buy any lavishes for a while.

NetBSD-7.0 and mc in console

2016-02-10 Thread Marco Beishuizen
Hi, I recently installed NetBSD 7 on an old Digital PWS600au and build and installed Midnight Commander via pkgsrc. My problem is is that a lot of keyboard keys do not work, and that makes mc quite unusable. I think it has something to do with the console settings but I don't know how to