Re: NPF on domU - more clarity required

2014-12-28 Thread Michael van Elst
jnem...@cue.bc.ca (John Nemeth) writes: I understood what you meant, I was just thinking about the complexity of dealing with everything. BTW, pvgrub doesn't use PV ops. It sits in dom0 and uses regular filesystem ops to extract stuff from the domU's disk. That sounds like a mixup.

Re: NPF on domU - more clarity required

2014-12-28 Thread Justin Cormack
On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:40 AM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: John Nemeth jnem...@cue.bc.ca writes: On Dec 27, 10:56am, Greg Troxel wrote: One option would be to turn /boot into something that works like pvgrub. This shouldn't actually be that hard. This is something that I

Re: NPF on domU - more clarity required

2014-12-27 Thread John Nemeth
On Dec 26, 11:32pm, Gerard Lally wrote: } At date and time Fri, 26 Dec 2014 22:38:05 + (UTC), Michael van Elst wrote: } } lists+netbsd.us...@netmail.ie (Gerard Lally) writes: } } compiling the kernel as a normal user instead of root? I've just noticed } the owner and group on

Re: NPF on domU - more clarity required

2014-12-27 Thread Gerard Lally
At date and time Sat, 27 Dec 2014 14:49:03 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 11:32:26PM +, Gerard Lally wrote: Thank you Michael, and thank you to all the other senior NetBSD devs who stooped to help out this perpetual newbie, here and in private! It would be

Re: NPF on domU - more clarity required

2014-12-27 Thread John Nemeth
On Dec 27, 10:56am, Greg Troxel wrote: } On Dec 26, 11:32pm, Gerard Lally wrote: } } } As a sidenote, if there's a way of eliminating the grub cruft and using } } NetBSD's boot manager instead I'd be glad to hear it. } } No, there isn't a way. This is something that is controlled } by

Re: NPF on domU - more clarity required

2014-12-27 Thread Greg Troxel
John Nemeth jnem...@cue.bc.ca writes: On Dec 27, 10:56am, Greg Troxel wrote: } On Dec 26, 11:32pm, Gerard Lally wrote: } } } As a sidenote, if there's a way of eliminating the grub cruft and using } } NetBSD's boot manager instead I'd be glad to hear it. } } No, there isn't a

Re: NPF on domU - more clarity required

2014-12-27 Thread John Nemeth
On Dec 27, 9:40pm, Greg Troxel wrote: } John Nemeth jnem...@cue.bc.ca writes: } On Dec 27, 10:56am, Greg Troxel wrote: } } On Dec 26, 11:32pm, Gerard Lally wrote: } } } } } As a sidenote, if there's a way of eliminating the grub cruft and using } } } NetBSD's boot manager instead I'd be

Re: NPF on domU - more clarity required

2014-12-26 Thread Christos Zoulas
In article 20141226020448.ee93.280fc...@netmail.ie, Gerard Lally lists+netbsd.us...@netmail.ie wrote: I have been struggling to get NPF up and running on a NetBSD VPS, specifically a Xen domU. I really think for security reasons NPF should be nearly ready to go, so that we don't have to spend

Re: NPF on domU - more clarity required

2014-12-26 Thread Gerard Lally
At date and time Fri, 26 Dec 2014 20:10:35 + (UTC), Christos Zoulas wrote: In article 20141226020448.ee93.280fc...@netmail.ie, Gerard Lally lists+netbsd.us...@netmail.ie wrote: I have been struggling to get NPF up and running on a NetBSD VPS, specifically a Xen domU. I really think for

Re: NPF on domU - more clarity required

2014-12-26 Thread Michael van Elst
lists+netbsd.us...@netmail.ie (Gerard Lally) writes: compiling the kernel as a normal user instead of root? I've just noticed the owner and group on /usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/custom-20141226/ are gerard:wsrc. Should that be root:wsrc instead? It doesn't matter who is the owner of the build

Re: NPF on domU - more clarity required

2014-12-26 Thread Gerard Lally
At date and time Fri, 26 Dec 2014 22:38:05 + (UTC), Michael van Elst wrote: lists+netbsd.us...@netmail.ie (Gerard Lally) writes: compiling the kernel as a normal user instead of root? I've just noticed the owner and group on /usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/custom-20141226/ are

Re: NPF on domU - more clarity required

2014-12-26 Thread Christos Zoulas
In article 20141226214013.8a21.280fc...@netmail.ie, Gerard Lally lists+netbsd.us...@netmail.ie wrote: -=-=-=-=-=- late than never: NetBSD xx.xen.prgmr.com 7.0_BETA NetBSD 7.0_BETA (XEN3_DOMU.201412251110Z) amd64 System installed using ftp, from nyftp.netbsd.org, with all sets. I used the

NPF on domU - more clarity required

2014-12-25 Thread Gerard Lally
I have been struggling to get NPF up and running on a NetBSD VPS, specifically a Xen domU. I really think for security reasons NPF should be nearly ready to go, so that we don't have to spend hours researching and pulling our hair out trying to fix what should be a straightforward issue, which