Re: cryptic pkgin SSL cert error

2024-04-23 Thread David Brownlee
ively unannounced change, pkgin on a -9 system without either > > security/mozilla-rootcerts-openssl installed or /etc/openssl will now > > just fail, including any attempt to install mozilla-rootcerts-openssl > > to resolve. > > Only if the binary pkgs repository URL was us

Re: cryptic pkgin SSL cert error

2024-04-23 Thread Martin Husemann
On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 03:17:14PM +0100, David Brownlee wrote: > However, while better checking of trust anchors is a better end state > - assuming I am understanding the situation correctly: in an > effectively unannounced change, pkgin on a -9 system without either > security/mozil

Re: cryptic pkgin SSL cert error

2024-04-23 Thread David Brownlee
t; > > For netbsd-10 /etc/openssl is populated by the OS, but doing that > > would be a breaking change on netbsd-9, however it may be that the > > latest pkgin is enforcing SSL certificates by default on netbsd-9 > > which would be... unhelpful in this case > > I don't s

Re: cryptic pkgin SSL cert error

2024-04-23 Thread beaker
David Brownlee wrote: > On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 at 02:27, beaker wrote: > > I have a 9.3/i386 VM on which I recently ran > > $ sudo pkgin update ; sudo pkgin upgrade ;sudo pkgin autoremove > > > > which worked but subsequent attempts to use pkgin repo

Re: cryptic pkgin SSL cert error

2024-04-23 Thread Greg Troxel
a breaking change on netbsd-9, however it may be that the > latest pkgin is enforcing SSL certificates by default on netbsd-9 > which would be... unhelpful in this case I don't see it as uhelpful -- doctrine has always been that the sysadmin should choose which CAs to configure as trust ancho

Re: cryptic pkgin SSL cert error

2024-04-23 Thread David Brownlee
On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 at 02:27, beaker wrote: > > Hello, > > I have a 9.3/i386 VM on which I recently ran > $ sudo pkgin update ; sudo pkgin upgrade ;sudo pkgin autoremove > > which worked but subsequent attempts to use pkgin report the following error: > > -- >

cryptic pkgin SSL cert error

2024-04-22 Thread beaker
Hello, I have a 9.3/i386 VM on which I recently ran $ sudo pkgin update ; sudo pkgin upgrade ;sudo pkgin autoremove which worked but subsequent attempts to use pkgin report the following error: -- $ sudo pkgin update cleaning database from http://cdn.netbsd.org

Re: pkg_add and pkgin install taking extremely long

2024-03-26 Thread nia
On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 05:40:44PM +0100, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: > A simple `pkg_add pkgin` runs for over a quarter hour, and pkgin install > call took another half an hour, until it recognized a wrong parameter: echo 'ip6addrctl=YES' >> /etc/rc.conf echo 'ip6ad

Re: pkg_add and pkgin install taking extremely long

2024-03-26 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
On 25.03.24 20:40, Justin Parrott wrote: This is not an issue with the local system. maybe a combination of both the guest and the host (maybe host offering IPv6 address but no actual routing). But fortunately fixed it with some tweaks now :) --mtx -- --- Hinweis: unverschlüsselte E-Mails

Re: pkg_add and pkgin install taking extremely long

2024-03-25 Thread Justin Parrott
? I bet it's the network, not > > specifically pkgin. > > meanwhile turned out it seems to be ipv6 related (somebody in irc gave > me a hint on that). calling pkgin with -4 makes it *a lot* faster > (pkg_add doesnt seem to have that switch). > > Also explicitly dropping ipv6 defau

Re: pkg_add and pkgin install taking extremely long

2024-03-25 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
Hi @all, Your timing is similar to what I had in some early tests. That said, have you measured what is the slow part? I bet it's the network, not specifically pkgin. meanwhile turned out it seems to be ipv6 related (somebody in irc gave me a hint on that). calling pkgin with -4 makes

Re: pkg_add and pkgin install taking extremely long

2024-03-25 Thread Justin Parrott
lays in package > > installations. > > > > A simple `pkg_add pkgin` runs for over a quarter hour, and pkgin install > > call took another half an hour, until it recognized a wrong parameter: > > I have experience with a similar setup, from setting up the NetBSD CI > image

Re: pkg_add and pkgin install taking extremely long

2024-03-25 Thread Benny Siegert
Am 25.03.24 um 17:40 schrieb Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult: I'm currently in process of setting up an CI build process for Xorg on NetBSD (inside Qemu), but encountering really long delays in package installations. A simple `pkg_add pkgin` runs for over a quarter hour, and pkgin install call

Re: pkg_add and pkgin install taking extremely long

2024-03-25 Thread Justin Parrott
delays in package > installations. > > A simple `pkg_add pkgin` runs for over a quarter hour, and pkgin install > call took another half an hour, until it recognized a wrong parameter: > > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/metux/ci-templates/-/jobs/56754224 > > Am

pkg_add and pkgin install taking extremely long

2024-03-25 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
Hello folks, I'm currently in process of setting up an CI build process for Xorg on NetBSD (inside Qemu), but encountering really long delays in package installations. A simple `pkg_add pkgin` runs for over a quarter hour, and pkgin install call took another half an hour, until it recognized

Re: holding back pkgs from pkgin

2023-07-20 Thread beaker
pin wrote: > Apparently nobody has answered your question in the mailing-list. > > > Is there a way to hold back packages from pkgin similar to 'apt-mark ' > > ? > > The short answer is no, there isn't. > > > The pkg in question is ../wm/dwm which I customize

holding back pkgs from pkgin

2023-07-11 Thread beaker
Is there a way to hold back packages from pkgin similar to 'apt-mark ' ? Didn't see anything in the manpage and when I try to use 'pkgin import pkg_list.txt' where the not-to-be-updated pkg has been removed pkgin STILL tries to update the pkg. The pkg in question is ../wm/dwm which I customize

Re: the vine package in pkgin is wine64?

2022-11-15 Thread r0ller
some time back I sent an email to the author about such docs to check if I was able to upgrade it but never got an answer.Best regards,r0ller Eredeti levél Feladó: nia Dátum: 2022 november 15 08:23:58Tárgy: Re: the vine package in pkgin is wine64?Címzett: r0ller On Fri, Nov 11

Re: the vine package in pkgin is wine64?

2022-11-14 Thread nia
On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 10:41:15PM +, r0ller wrote: > Running 32 bit win stuff does not work with that. I'm running 32-bit only WINE programs in a 32-bit NetBSD chroot (using sandboxctl). It works okay: https://washbear.neocities.org/wine-sandbox.html

Re: the vine package in pkgin is wine64?

2022-11-11 Thread r0ller
Got the answer: that package in pkgin is just the wine64 package and not the WoW64. So running 32 bit win stuff does not work with that. That's a pity as the WoW64 (called wine64 in pkgsrc/wip) is only the 4.4 version. Eredeti levél Feladó: r0ller Dátum: 2022 november 11 11:14

the vine package in pkgin is wine64?

2022-11-11 Thread r0ller
Hi All,I've just discovered that now there's a wine package in pkgin :) As I'm on amd64 it must be the wine64 which previously resided in pkgsrc/wip only, right?Therefore, I tried to enable the USER_LDT option and disable SVS in a custom kernel config but I couldn't build it (see my previous

Re: 9.2: pkgin packages do not register pkg_info

2021-08-04 Thread Greg Troxel
pkgsrc.org/pkgdb-change/ > > oh, I fear I have split. But, permit me, this is bad: I have a > super-fresh install; I used pkg_add to instappl pkgin and nothing more! > So what went wrong? > > localhost$ /usr/sbin/pkg_add -V > 20201218 > localhost$ /usr/pkg/sbin/pkg_add -V

Re: 9.2: pkgin packages do not register pkg_info

2021-08-04 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi. replying to myself Riccardo Mottola wrote: > I fear this "dirs" come from this step: > > In /var/db/pkg.refcount > tar cf - . | (cd /usr/pkg/pkgdb && tar xfv -) > > since pkg.refcount contained "dirs" > > ls /usr/pkg/pkgdb/dirs/ > etc usr var > > is it out of place? the proper command

Re: 9.2: pkgin packages do not register pkg_info

2021-08-04 Thread Riccardo Mottola
me, this is bad: I have a super-fresh install; I used pkg_add to instappl pkgin and nothing more! So what went wrong? localhost$ /usr/sbin/pkg_add -V 20201218 localhost$ /usr/pkg/sbin/pkg_add -V 20210410 The versions are exactly the two which are cited as "good"! I will follow th

Re: 9.2: pkgin packages do not register pkg_info

2021-08-04 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Greg Greg Troxel wrote: > I don't either, but my advice is to *always* set PKG_DBDIR explicitly in > btoh mk.conf and pkg_install.conf. Check if you have the split brain > situation, or something else: > > https://pkgsrc.org/pkgdb-change/ I tried to perform the split migration according to

Re: 9.2: pkgin packages do not register pkg_info

2021-08-03 Thread Greg Troxel
Riccardo Mottola writes: > I installed using pkg_add pkgin. Then I installed a myriad of packages > using "pkgin install", so to be quick and not compile stuff myself. > > I wonder however that "pkg_info" then does not list these packages, why? I don't either,

9.2: pkgin packages do not register pkg_info

2021-08-03 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hello, I just installed a fresh 9.2 on an HP ProBook amd64. It went quite smooth! (FreeBSD didn't even boot with SATA in AHCI mode...) Yay. Wireless worked  out of the box, X11 too (well Intel graphics is a good bet there.) I installed using pkg_add pkgin. Then I installed a myriad

Re: Regular NetBSD packaging and pkgin

2021-07-16 Thread Mark Carroll
On 12 Jul 2021, Greg Troxel wrote: > Benny Siegert writes: (snip) >> It sounds like pkgin and your pkg_* tools disagree on what the correct >> PKG_DBDIR is. Probably one of them is using /var/db/pkg and the other >> /usr/pkg/pkgdb. Check if you have both, set the location

Re: pkgin does not install anything after upgrade to 9.2

2021-07-13 Thread r0ller
Hi Greg, Thanks for the suggestion. I'm still doing the backup but will come back with the outcome. Best regards, r0ller Eredeti levél Feladó: Greg Troxel < g...@lexort.com (Link -> mailto:g...@lexort.com) > Dátum: 2021 július 9 13:06:24 Tárgy: Re: pkgin does no

Re: Regular NetBSD packaging and pkgin

2021-07-12 Thread Greg Troxel
Benny Siegert writes: > On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 2:46 AM Mark Carroll wrote: >> Does anybody have an idea what I messed up on the >> latter? I first noticed when "pkg_admin audit" was telling me less than >> I expected on that system. > > It sounds lik

Re: Regular NetBSD packaging and pkgin

2021-07-12 Thread Benny Siegert
On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 2:46 AM Mark Carroll wrote: > Does anybody have an idea what I messed up on the > latter? I first noticed when "pkg_admin audit" was telling me less than > I expected on that system. It sounds like pkgin and your pkg_* tools disagree on what th

Regular NetBSD packaging and pkgin

2021-07-11 Thread Mark Carroll
I've somehow misconfigured something and can't work out what. On one NetBSD 9.2 system, if I pkgin install something, then "pkg_info -u" reports it as installed. On the other, pkg_info doesn't seem to know anything about what I installed with pkgin, though "pkgin show-keep"

Re: pkgin does not install anything after upgrade to 9.2

2021-07-09 Thread Greg Troxel
Boot to single user and full fsck. Also make the backups you have been meaning to get around to right away

Re: pkgin does not install anything after upgrade to 9.2

2021-07-09 Thread r0ller
Hi Greg, Thanks for your suggestions! It indeed seems to be corrupted :( I tried to nuke (rm -rf) the directory /usr/pkg/pkgdb/p5-Net-SSLeay-1.88nb1 but I got back that the directory is not empty which is pretty unusual for rm -rf. Now, when I try to list its contents, three files are

Re: pkgin does not install anything after upgrade to 9.2

2021-07-08 Thread Greg Troxel
r0ller writes: > The only error I see in pkg_install-err.log (which is not shown as > error) which seems to block each pkg install is: > > pkg_admin: Cannot read +CONTENTS of package p5-Net-SSLeay-1.88nb1 > > Does anyone have any hint? pkg_admin rebuild-tree pkg_admin check make sure your

Re: pkgin does not install anything after upgrade to 9.2

2021-07-08 Thread nia
nothing seems to have been upgraded and pkgin does not seem to install > > anything. > > The repositories are identical (9.2 is actually a symlink on the server > pointing at the 9.0 repo). > > Martin to expand: pkgsrc is developed separately and has a separate release schedul

Re: pkgin does not install anything after upgrade to 9.2

2021-07-08 Thread Martin Husemann
On Thu, Jul 08, 2021 at 02:36:17PM +0200, r0ller wrote: > is quite noticeable when starting firefox. However, after changing > repositories.conf to point to amd64/9.2/All and upgrading all packages, > nothing seems to have been upgraded and pkgin does not seem to install &

pkgin does not install anything after upgrade to 9.2

2021-07-08 Thread r0ller
, nothing seems to have been upgraded and pkgin does not seem to install anything. There are many warnings about the platform difference (built for 9.0 vs 9.2) but no errors (except one maybe, see later). However, when e.g. installing firefox-86.0.1 pkgin acts as if it was doing its job

Re: pkgin repo

2021-04-07 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Wed, 7 Apr 2021, Dan Cîrnaț wrote: Telling pkgin: 'pkgin install gdm' led to 59 packages being "refreshed", and 4 more installed. Please be aware that those pkgin repos only have packages for the main pkgsrc tree, excluding pkgsrc-wip. The gdm version there is 2.x., an old on

Re: pkgin repo

2021-04-07 Thread Ottavio Caruso
On 06/04/2021 22:54, Bob Bernstein wrote: I am taking a first run at pkgin. It fails trying to get a file from: https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/$arch/9.99.81/All ...which can be found in my /usr/pkg/etc/pkgin/repositories.conf. I have here:  $ uname -a NetBSD nebbytwo

Re: pkgin repo

2021-04-07 Thread Dan Cîrnaț
On 07.04.21 03:44, Bob Bernstein wrote: Telling pkgin: 'pkgin install gdm' led to 59 packages being "refreshed", and 4 more installed. Please be aware that those pkgin repos only have packages for the main pkgsrc tree, excluding pkgsrc-wip. The gdm version there is 2.x., an old one. Dan

Re: pkgin repo

2021-04-06 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Wed, 7 Apr 2021, Chavdar Ivanov wrote: I don't think there are "official" pkgin repos for -current. However, check https://pkgsrc.joyent.com/install-on-netbsd/ . What I put in my /usr/pkg/etc/pkgin/reposiories.conf was: https://pkgsrc.joyent.com/packages/NetBSD/trunk/x86_64/All

Re: pkgin repo

2021-04-06 Thread Chavdar Ivanov
On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 at 22:54, Bob Bernstein wrote: > > I am taking a first run at pkgin. It fails trying to get a file > from: > > https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/$arch/9.99.81/All > > ...which can be found in my > /usr/pkg/etc/pkgin/repositori

pkgin repo

2021-04-06 Thread Bob Bernstein
I am taking a first run at pkgin. It fails trying to get a file from: https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/$arch/9.99.81/All ...which can be found in my /usr/pkg/etc/pkgin/repositories.conf. I have here: $ uname -a NetBSD nebbytwo 9.99.81 NetBSD 9.99.81 (GENERIC) #0: Sat Mar

Re: pkgin refresh vs. upgrade?

2020-06-27 Thread Lars-Johan Liman
all based on observation rather than documentation. >> When running pkgin to upgrade one or more packages, it often says "X >> packages to refresh, Y packages to upgrade". > Refresh means the version hasn't changed but the package has been > rebuilt since you last install

Re: pkgin refresh vs. upgrade?

2020-06-17 Thread Mike Pumford
On 17/06/2020 07:39, Lars-Johan Liman wrote: Hi! This is all based on observation rather than documentation. When running pkgin to upgrade one or more packages, it often says "X packages to refresh, Y packages to upgrade". Refresh means the version hasn't changed but the packag

pkgin refresh vs. upgrade?

2020-06-17 Thread Lars-Johan Liman
Hi! When running pkgin to upgrade one or more packages, it often says "X packages to refresh, Y packages to upgrade". What's the difference between a refresh and an upgrade of a package? And where is it documented? ;-) Thanks!

Re: pkgin error (possible workaround)

2020-05-22 Thread matthew sporleder
t; but not in amd64. For me the following simple workaround worked: > > Thanks for the specific report. > > > I modified the repository pointer in > > > > /usr/pkg/etc/pkgin/repositories.conf > > > > from: > > > > http://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/pack

Re: pkgin error (possible workaround)

2020-05-21 Thread Greg Troxel
; I modified the repository pointer in > > /usr/pkg/etc/pkgin/repositories.conf > > from: > > http://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/amd64/9.0/All > > to: > > http://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/x86_64/9.0/All amd64 is the name of the port,

Re: pkgin error (possible workaround)

2020-05-21 Thread Lars-Johan Liman
Hi Dima (all)! I've found that the x86_64 and amd64 directories seem to be out of sync on cdn.netbsd.org. In short, pkg_summary seems to be updated in x86_64 but not in amd64. For me the following simple workaround worked: I modified the repository pointer in /usr/pkg/etc/pkgin

Re: pkgin error

2020-05-17 Thread Martin Neitzel
Hi Matthew, MN> http://cdn.Netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/amd64/... MN> http://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/amd64/... MN> yielded different data. Both hostnames resolved to the same IP addresses MS> I fixed the host header thing when that was pointed out.

Re: pkgin error

2020-05-16 Thread matthew sporleder
NetBSD > REPOSITORY = > http://cdn.Netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/amd64/8.2/All > > > Looks like Roland is rather using the 8.0 repo? > > I essentially noticed the same problem here, too, after... > > - an update on the netbsd-8 branch on May 2nd and >

Re: pkgin error

2020-05-16 Thread Martin Neitzel
FILE_SIZE = 25004 OPSYS = NetBSD REPOSITORY = http://cdn.Netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/amd64/8.2/All Looks like Roland is rather using the 8.0 repo? I essentially noticed the same problem here, too, after... - an update on the netbsd-8 branch on

Re: pkgin error

2020-05-16 Thread Roland Illig
On 15.05.2020 17:22, nottobay wrote: I keep getting a bunch of errors saying "download error size does not match pkg_summary" I try just telling it to proceed but the package still doesn't install. I have already tried forcing a pgkin update and it didn't fix it, and I'm using the default repo

Re: pkgin error

2020-05-15 Thread Dima Veselov
I had same problems and I've found that CDN directory contents may be not in sync with pkg_summary. I tried to work it out (thinking there might be one server not in sync) but had short time and no success so that time I just switched to legacy source. How cdn is organized in short? It would be

Re: pkgin error

2020-05-15 Thread nottobay
It is saying no such file or directory for /var/db/cache but /var/db/ at 454982 out of 38176044 so space isn't the problem, On Fri, May 15, 2020, 11:38 wrote: > Hello, > > On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:22:59AM -0400, nottobay wrote: > >I keep getting a bunch of errors saying "download error >

Re: pkgin error

2020-05-15 Thread ignatios
Hello, On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:22:59AM -0400, nottobay wrote: >I keep getting a bunch of errors saying "download error >size does not match pkg_summary" I try just telling it to proceed but the >package still doesn't install. I have already tried forcing a pgkin update >and it

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-02-01 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 2020-02-01 01:38, Greg Troxel wrote: [---] > If you can't trust your local storage, you have no basis for getting > anything at all right. Your local storage is where the public keys are > stored that you use to validate, where you store files in installed > packages, and where you store

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-02-01 Thread yarl-baudig
For a quick summary from all your answers since martin's, if I may. His answer is still perfectly valid to me. Assuming you trust everything before, because not assuming that is confusing and counterproductive in this particular discussion, I wanted to focus, while there is probably work there

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-31 Thread Greg Troxel
Jan Danielsson writes: >- If you don't know if: > o the server storage can be trusted > o you can fully trust the link > o you can trust your local storage up until the point at which you > install the package > .. then you need the binary package to be signed. If you

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-31 Thread Greg Troxel
Johnny Billquist writes: > On 2020-01-31 15:02, Greg Troxel wrote: >> The other thing https gives you is hiding the names of the packages you >> download from passive eavesdroppers on the network bewteen your computer >> and the TNF server. One such possible eavesdropper is your ISP. This >>

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-31 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 2020-01-31 20:36, Manuel Bouyer wrote: [---] >>*Assuming you can trust the build environment (which includes the >> signing process)*, and assuming that you can trust the underlying crypto: >> >>- HTTPS protects the connection between you and the server (assuming >> server

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-31 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2020-01-31 15:02, Greg Troxel wrote: The other thing https gives you is hiding the names of the packages you download from passive eavesdroppers on the network bewteen your computer and the TNF server. One such possible eavesdropper is your ISP. This is part of the "https everyhwere" push;

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-31 Thread Manuel Bouyer
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 07:21:40PM +0100, Jan Danielsson wrote: > On 2020-01-31 08:49, yarl-bau...@mailoo.org wrote: > > Please Maya and Mr Billquist, can you be more specific about how it is > > insecure? > >There are different domains to consider. > >*Assuming you can trust the build

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-31 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 2020-01-31 08:49, yarl-bau...@mailoo.org wrote: > Please Maya and Mr Billquist, can you be more specific about how it is > insecure? There are different domains to consider. *Assuming you can trust the build environment (which includes the signing process)*, and assuming that you can

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-31 Thread Greg Troxel
Ottavio Caruso writes: > I have interpreted "binary packages safety" as something intrinsic to > potential vulnerability of the 3rd party software itself, as opposed > to package integrity checking with digital signatures, checksums, etc, > at least related to questions 1 and 3. In my view, the

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-31 Thread Greg Troxel
Johnny Billquist writes: > (Which is why I objected to the implication that https is important, > and somehow adds some security here in the first place.) I think you are incorrect to dismiss https. In a world without signed packages, the flow of built binary packages from an official build

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-31 Thread Ottavio Caruso
to signing binary packages (we manually sign the pkg-vulnerabilities file but that's unrelated). Leo & al., The original questions were [sic]: 1) "is safe the use pkgsrc binary packages. For example using pkgin?" 2) "Is the authenticity and integrity of packages installed thi

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-31 Thread Leonardo Taccari
Ottavio Caruso writes: > [...] > I believe there's an internal pkgsrc security mailing list to which > users have no access (I could be wrong), so I don't really know how this > auditing really works. > > One can always "pkg_admin fetch-pkg-vulnerabilities && pkg_admin audit". > [...]

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-31 Thread Johnny Billquist
give you. And which still means you have no idea if the software is sane, proper, does what you think, or hasn't been tampered with.   Johnny De : Martin Husemann À : Ottavio Caruso Sujet : Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin Date : 31/01/2020 09:51:53 Europe/Paris Copie à

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-31 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2020-01-31 12:39, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2020-01-31 12:37, Manuel Bouyer wrote: On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 12:32:06PM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote: Of course you can. But then you need to have a whole list of trusted public keys that needs to be managed, which again leads to the question

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-31 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2020-01-31 12:37, Manuel Bouyer wrote: On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 12:32:06PM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote: Of course you can. But then you need to have a whole list of trusted public keys that needs to be managed, which again leads to the question of which keys are now the acceptable ones. And

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-31 Thread Manuel Bouyer
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 12:32:06PM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote: > Of course you can. But then you need to have a whole list of trusted public > keys that needs to be managed, which again leads to the question of which > keys are now the acceptable ones. And how to you trust new builders? Can >

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-31 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2020-01-31 12:32, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2020-01-31 12:07, Manuel Bouyer wrote: On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 11:39:32AM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2020-01-31 11:34, Manuel Bouyer wrote: On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 11:08:05AM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2020-01-31 10:25,

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-31 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2020-01-31 12:07, Manuel Bouyer wrote: On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 11:39:32AM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2020-01-31 11:34, Manuel Bouyer wrote: On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 11:08:05AM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2020-01-31 10:25, yarl-bau...@mailoo.org wrote: That's exactly the answer

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-31 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2020-01-31 11:34, Manuel Bouyer wrote: On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 11:08:05AM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2020-01-31 10:25, yarl-bau...@mailoo.org wrote: That's exactly the answer I was waiting and hoping for. Thank you. I'll follow tech-pkg from now on. Packages must be signed. And

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-31 Thread Manuel Bouyer
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 11:39:32AM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote: > On 2020-01-31 11:34, Manuel Bouyer wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 11:08:05AM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > > On 2020-01-31 10:25, yarl-bau...@mailoo.org wrote: > > > > That's exactly the answer I was waiting and hoping

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-31 Thread Manuel Bouyer
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 11:08:05AM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote: > On 2020-01-31 10:25, yarl-bau...@mailoo.org wrote: > > That's exactly the answer I was waiting and hoping for. Thank you. > > > > I'll follow tech-pkg from now on. Packages must be signed. > > And with that signature, you know

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-31 Thread Johnny Billquist
, which is the same thing https would give you. And which still means you have no idea if the software is sane, proper, does what you think, or hasn't been tampered with. Johnny De : Martin Husemann À : Ottavio Caruso Sujet : Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin Date : 31/01

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-31 Thread yarl-baudig
That's exactly the answer I was waiting and hoping for. Thank you. I'll follow tech-pkg from now on. Packages must be signed. De : Martin Husemann À : Ottavio Caruso Sujet : Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin Date : 31/01/2020 09:51:53 Europe/Paris Copie à : netbsd-users

Tr: Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-31 Thread yarl-baudig
De : yarl-bau...@mailoo.org À : Ottavio Caruso Sujet : Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin Date : 31/01/2020 10:15:00 Europe/Paris De : Ottavio Caruso À : netbsd-users@netbsd.org Sujet : Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin Date : 31/01/2020 09:26:06 Europe/Paris One

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-31 Thread Martin Husemann
Let me (as someone not heavily involved into pkgsrc and binary pkg building) try to unriddle a few bits that I think get easily confused in this context. When it comes to 3rd party packages, you have to trust: (1) the original source of the package ("upstream") and its release policies.

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-31 Thread Ottavio Caruso
On 31/01/2020 07:49, yarl-bau...@mailoo.org wrote: Please Maya and Mr Billquist, can you be more specific about how it is insecure? To all: Is someone working on it and what is ongoing to improve this? I feel this thread belongs to pkgsrc-users@ or even better tech-pkg@ and I'm not the OP,

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-30 Thread yarl-baudig
Please Maya and Mr Billquist, can you be more specific about how it is insecure? To all: Is someone working on it and what is ongoing to improve this? Thank you very much. De : J. Lewis Muir À : Johnny Billquist Sujet : Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin Date : 27/01/2020 12:08

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-27 Thread J. Lewis Muir
On 01/26, Johnny Billquist wrote: > The code is not audited anyway, but just downloaded from various places, and > then built. I don't follow. What code are you saying is not audited? The source code of each package? If so, I think that's mostly true (of course there are exceptions where the

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-26 Thread Ottavio Caruso
Op 26/01/2020 om 02:55 schreef Johnny Billquist: On 2020-01-26 03:43, J. Lewis Muir wrote: On 01/25, m...@netbsd.org wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 01:34:34AM +0100, yarl-bau...@mailoo.org wrote: May I ask how is safe the use pkgsrc binary packages. For example using pkgin. Does libfetch

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-25 Thread yarl-baudig
Is there projects to improve this? De : m...@netbsd.org À : yarl-bau...@mailoo.org Sujet : Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin Date : 25/01/2020 23:11:25 Europe/Paris Copie à : netbsd-users@netbsd.org On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 01:34:34AM +0100, yarl-bau...@mailoo.org wrote: > He

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-25 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2020-01-26 03:43, J. Lewis Muir wrote: On 01/25, m...@netbsd.org wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 01:34:34AM +0100, yarl-bau...@mailoo.org wrote: May I ask how is safe the use pkgsrc binary packages. For example using pkgin. Does libfetch is doing fine with https? Any thoughts

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-25 Thread J. Lewis Muir
On 01/25, m...@netbsd.org wrote: > On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 01:34:34AM +0100, yarl-bau...@mailoo.org wrote: > > May I ask how is safe the use pkgsrc binary packages. For example using > > pkgin. Does libfetch is doing fine with https? Any thoughts? > > > > Is the

Re: pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-25 Thread maya
On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 01:34:34AM +0100, yarl-bau...@mailoo.org wrote: > Hello, > > May I ask how is safe the use pkgsrc binary packages. For example using > pkgin. Does libfetch is doing fine with https? Any thoughts? > > Is the authenticity and integrity of packages

pkgsrc binary packages security with pkgin

2020-01-25 Thread yarl-baudig
Hello, May I ask how is safe the use pkgsrc binary packages. For example using pkgin. Does libfetch is doing fine with https? Any thoughts? Is the authenticity and integrity of packages installed this way is guaranteed assuming no bugs in software involved? Is it safer to compile by yourself

Re: pkg_add vs pkgin

2019-05-14 Thread Aleksej Lebedev
request to install/upgrade a package that depends on another package older version of which is already installed on your system you will get an error as pkg_add will blindly try to install the newer version on top of the old (and get a conflict). Pkgin is more advanced: it builds a whole

Re: pkg_add vs pkgin

2019-05-14 Thread Mayuresh
On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 07:39:54PM +0530, Mayuresh wrote: > I often try to switch to binary mode. Then one odd time you'll come across > something that's not present in the binary repository and then you'd want > to turn to pkgsrc. Often by that time some things would have evolved and > pkgsrc

Re: pkg_add vs pkgin

2019-05-14 Thread Mayuresh
o (other than you mentioned) well, as well. > Pkgin is more advanced: it builds a whole dependency tree and upgrade all > dependencies. I do not know what others' experience with binary installation in general is. And I am not even talking about build options mismatch here. I often try to swit

pkg_add vs pkgin

2019-05-10 Thread Mayuresh
http://pkgin.net/ says: NetBSD, and more widely, all operating systems relying on pkgsrc have tools like pkg_add and pkg_delete, but those are unable to correctly handle binary upgrades, and sometimes even installation itself. Could someone please clarify what it means? Are pkg_add

Re: pkg/54123 (crash trying 'pkgin upgrade' with locally built pkg_summary)

2019-04-20 Thread Greg A. Woods
At Sat, 20 Apr 2019 13:20:03 +0100, Chavdar Ivanov wrote: Subject: Re: pkg/54123 (crash trying 'pkgin upgrade' with locally built pkg_summary) > > I have always used > > cd /usr/pkgsrc/packages/All ; ( for i in *.tgz; pkg_info -X $i ) | > bzip2 > pkg_summary.bz2 Ah, that

Re: pkg/54123 (crash trying 'pkgin upgrade' with locally built pkg_summary)

2019-04-20 Thread Chavdar Ivanov
Re: pkg/54123 (crash trying 'pkgin upgrade' with locally built > pkg_summary) > > > > While pkgin shouldn't crash and should be able to handle bad input, it > > should be pointed out that this use-case is not expected to work at all, > > and any fix will simply enforce that.

Re: pkg/54123 (crash trying 'pkgin upgrade' with locally built pkg_summary)

2019-04-20 Thread Greg A. Woods
[[ I tried sending this to gnats-admin, but it hasn't appeared yet, and in any case folks here might have answers or suggestions too. ]] At Wed, 17 Apr 2019 23:32:40 +0100, Jonathan Perkin wrote: Subject: Re: pkg/54123 (crash trying 'pkgin upgrade' with locally built pkg_summary) > >

Re: pkgin

2018-10-21 Thread Pedro Pinho
Thx! Yes, that's understandable. Still, https://gitlab.com/iMil/pkgin looks to be outdated as well :( The best would be if http://pkgin.net/ pointed to https://github.com/joyent/pkgin which seems to be the master branch. Den fre 19 okt. 2018 15:45matthew sporleder skrev: > On Thu, Oct 18, 2

Re: pkgin

2018-10-19 Thread matthew sporleder
does http://pkgin.net/ points to https://github.com/NetBSDfr/pkgin ? > This github repo has not seen any commit for the last two years. > Wouldn't be better if it would point to https://github.com/joyent/pkgin , > just like pkgsrc.se does? > Is there a reason for it? > > Thank

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