Update /usr/pkgsrc

2020-06-07 Thread nottobay
I was trying to build wine earlier and it seems my /usr/pkgsrc is from a prior install of NetBSD 8 and I'm on 9. Is there anyway to fix that without reinstalling?

Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020?

2020-06-07 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
On Sun, 7 Jun 2020, Sad Clouds wrote: On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 16:19:20 -0700 "Greg A. Woods" wrote: Delivering mail to a remote mail server requires MTA software that is capable of delivering mail via the network. Postfix is a most excellent MTA that can be configured to deliver mail via the

Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020?

2020-06-07 Thread Greg A. Woods
At Sun, 7 Jun 2020 20:19:59 +0100, Sad Clouds wrote: Subject: Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020? > > On Sun, 07 Jun 2020 10:35:09 -0700 > "Greg A. Woods" wrote: > > > Now ideally what I want to do for embedded systems is static-link > > every binary into one crunchgen

Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020?

2020-06-07 Thread Greg A. Woods
At Sun, 7 Jun 2020 08:45:51 +0100, Sad Clouds wrote: Subject: Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020? > > I'm curious, what sort of essential information do these emails > provide on a daily basis? Is it simply that some cron job completed > successfully? It's the

Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020?

2020-06-07 Thread Sad Clouds
On Sun, 07 Jun 2020 10:35:09 -0700 "Greg A. Woods" wrote: > Now ideally what I want to do for embedded systems is static-link > every binary into one crunchgen binary. I've done this for 5.2 on > i386, and the whole base system (or most of it, no compiler, tests, > or x11; and no ntpd or named

Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020?

2020-06-07 Thread Martin Husemann
On Sun, Jun 07, 2020 at 10:35:09AM -0700, Greg A. Woods wrote: > That's very interesting. > > The slowest machine I have running at the moment is a little old Soekris > box, with a FLASH disk as root: Interesting test - the slowest machine I had running (my VAX is actually slightly faster) is a

Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020?

2020-06-07 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2020-06-07 19:35, Greg A. Woods wrote: At Sun, 7 Jun 2020 12:46:51 +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote: Subject: Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020? On 2020-06-07 07:32, Greg A. Woods wrote: At Sun, 7 Jun 2020 01:53:34 +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote: Is the slow

Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020?

2020-06-07 Thread Greg A. Woods
At Sun, 7 Jun 2020 12:46:51 +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote: Subject: Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020? > > On 2020-06-07 07:32, Greg A. Woods wrote: > > > > At Sun, 7 Jun 2020 01:53:34 +0200, Johnny Billquist > > wrote: > > Is the slow startup you observe happening

Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020?

2020-06-07 Thread Greg Troxel
Sad Clouds writes: > On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 19:37:39 -0400 > Greg Troxel wrote: > >> I have a number of machines, and almost all of them send either daily >> mail or messages on boot, typically to me someplace else. This >> basically requires an MTA > > I'm curious, what sort of essential

Re: Is elinks dead?

2020-06-07 Thread Mayuresh
On Sun, Jun 07, 2020 at 03:17:31PM +0100, atomicules wrote: > I did suggest that some time ago. I think in pkg/50105. At the time .13 > wasn't an official release so the suggestion was to keep (my) changes in > WIP. But seems like things have changed since then. I see. If the decision is same

Re: Is elinks dead?

2020-06-07 Thread atomicules
On 07-Jun-2020 19:41:21, Mayuresh wrote: Thanks. I was able to build 0.13. Will send a separate request to upgrade in pkgsrc list. I did suggest that some time ago. I think in pkg/50105. At the time .13 wasn't an official release so the suggestion was to keep (my) changes in WIP. But seems

Re: Is elinks dead?

2020-06-07 Thread Mayuresh
On Sun, Jun 07, 2020 at 03:08:15PM +0100, atomicules wrote: > I use elinks (less than I used to though). I have been keeping the Pkgsrc > WIP elinks-snapshot package up to date with upstream, but sadly no updates > upstream since 2017. Thanks. I was able to build 0.13. Will send a separate

Re: Is elinks dead?

2020-06-07 Thread atomicules
Hi! On 07-Jun-2020 18:56:26, Mayuresh wrote: Are there any elinks user out here who have you faced those SSL errors and know any workaround? Or any alternatives, that may meet at least my first requirement in the bullets mentioned above? I use elinks (less than I used to though). I have been

Re: Is elinks dead?

2020-06-07 Thread Mayuresh
On Sun, Jun 07, 2020 at 06:56:26PM +0530, Mayuresh wrote: > The post mentions version .13 which was never released... Correction. I got that impression from this page that .12pre6 was the last release: http://elinks.cz/download.html However on this page I do see .13 released:

Is elinks dead?

2020-06-07 Thread Mayuresh
I have been using elinks-0.12pre6 for many years without any problems for text mode browsing. Some of the beautiful things about elinks are: - Ability to open new tabs over socket. For example I can easily open links from my mutt mail client as new tabs in elinks running in a separate

Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020?

2020-06-07 Thread Sad Clouds
On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 13:59:47 +0200 Johnny Billquist wrote: > You are thinking simple metrics, which is a rather user centric item. > I was trying to make that point before. > > Think instead of things like reports on what binaries have been > replaced in the system. How could you ever graph and

Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020?

2020-06-07 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2020-06-07 13:53, Mayuresh wrote: On Sun, Jun 07, 2020 at 01:43:34PM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote: Basically, anything written in C++ is almost a lost cause even before starting. Curious what you meant. Lost cause in what sense? In the sense of being fast. Assume you meant in

Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020?

2020-06-07 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2020-06-07 13:49, Sad Clouds wrote: On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 13:03:47 +0200 Johnny Billquist wrote: The alternative, even more so with the VMs, is that you would go into each and every machine and check the state there every day. That do not seem to scale very well... Having the reports instead

Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020?

2020-06-07 Thread Mayuresh
On Sun, Jun 07, 2020 at 01:43:34PM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > > Basically, anything written in C++ is almost a lost cause even before > > > starting. > > > > Curious what you meant. Lost cause in what sense? > > In the sense of being fast. Assume you meant in comparison with C, which is

Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020?

2020-06-07 Thread Sad Clouds
On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 13:03:47 +0200 Johnny Billquist wrote: > The alternative, even more so with the VMs, is that you would go into > each and every machine and check the state there every day. That do > not seem to scale very well... > > Having the reports instead sent to some central place

Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020?

2020-06-07 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2020-06-07 13:07, Mayuresh wrote: On Sun, Jun 07, 2020 at 12:46:51PM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote: Basically, anything written in C++ is almost a lost cause even before starting. Curious what you meant. Lost cause in what sense? In the sense of being fast. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist

Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020?

2020-06-07 Thread Mayuresh
On Sun, Jun 07, 2020 at 12:46:51PM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote: > Basically, anything written in C++ is almost a lost cause even before > starting. Curious what you meant. Lost cause in what sense? Mayuresh

Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020?

2020-06-07 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2020-06-07 10:11, Sad Clouds wrote: On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 16:19:20 -0700 "Greg A. Woods" wrote: Delivering mail to a remote mail server requires MTA software that is capable of delivering mail via the network. Postfix is a most excellent MTA that can be configured to deliver mail via the

Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020?

2020-06-07 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2020-06-07 07:32, Greg A. Woods wrote: At Sun, 7 Jun 2020 01:53:34 +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote: Subject: Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020? That I disagree with. Being a person who actually runs NetBSD on some older hardware, postfix is a real resource hog. It

Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020?

2020-06-07 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2020-06-07 09:45, Sad Clouds wrote: On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 19:37:39 -0400 Greg Troxel wrote: I have a number of machines, and almost all of them send either daily mail or messages on boot, typically to me someplace else. This basically requires an MTA I'm curious, what sort of essential

Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020?

2020-06-07 Thread Sad Clouds
On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 16:19:20 -0700 "Greg A. Woods" wrote: > Delivering mail to a remote mail server requires MTA software that is > capable of delivering mail via the network. > > Postfix is a most excellent MTA that can be configured to deliver mail > via the network. > > Conveniently Postfix

Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020?

2020-06-07 Thread Sad Clouds
On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 19:37:39 -0400 Greg Troxel wrote: > I have a number of machines, and almost all of them send either daily > mail or messages on boot, typically to me someplace else. This > basically requires an MTA I'm curious, what sort of essential information do these emails provide on

Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020?

2020-06-07 Thread Michael van Elst
On Sat, Jun 06, 2020 at 11:19:32PM +0100, Sad Clouds wrote: > MTA and email daily/weekly reports to sysadmins. Essentially it is used > as a monitoring tool, that can take the output from other tools like > netstat, vmstat, etc and email it to someone. There doesn't seem to be > any other use

Re: Postfix and local mail delivery - still relevant in 2020?

2020-06-07 Thread edgar
The dragonfly mailer is an improved version of femail.http://quigon.bsws.de/femail/femail-1.0.tgzOn Jun 6, 2020 2:05 PM, Sad Clouds wrote:On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 16:57:11 - (UTC) mlel...@serpens.de (Michael van Elst) wrote: > cryintotheblue...@gmail.com (Sad Clouds) writes: > > >I've been