Re: Disks w/non-512-byte sectors?

2015-02-07 Thread John Refling
Found this info for FreeBSD + general background info on similar drives: http://www.sysop.ca/archives/208 Would need to find the NetBSD equivalents of the FreeBSD commands, may or may not exist. I had the hardware (Fibre channel + some generic disk shelf) but never had time to try it.

Re: Disks w/non-512-byte sectors?

2015-02-03 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Mon, 2 Feb 2015 19:52:58 -0800 From:John Nemeth Message-ID: <201502030352.t133qwmw009...@server.cornerstoneservice.ca> | Uh, starting at sector 63, has nothing to do with floppies. Actually it does, I believe - just not directly. The filesystem (from fl

Re: Disks w/non-512-byte sectors?

2015-02-02 Thread John Nemeth
On Jan 18, 9:08pm, Greg Troxel wrote: } mlel...@serpens.de (Michael van Elst) writes: } > jdba...@mylinuxisp.com ("John D. Baker") writes: } > } >>First, can anyone point me to message threads about how modern 4K-sector } >>disks are to be handled? I must admit some confusion when reading about }

Re: Disks w/non-512-byte sectors?

2015-01-19 Thread Justin Cormack
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Dan LaBell wrote: > I'm wondering if formated this way, the drive provides no error detection/ > correction,and devotes the whole physical sector to data -- Instead of 512 > bytes , and > so many bytes for ECC. I'm also wondering if I have some drives like these.

Re: Disks w/non-512-byte sectors?

2015-01-19 Thread Dan LaBell
On Jan 19, 2015, at 3:09 AM, Michael van Elst wrote: writes: I was of the impression that the 4K sector business was to address(!) the problem of disk capacity outrunning the addressing capacity of the Task File interface on IDE/PATA/SATA disks, evening with all the funky bit reassignmen

Re: Disks w/non-512-byte sectors?

2015-01-19 Thread Dan LaBell
On Jan 18, 2015, at 5:56 PM, John D. Baker wrote: Second, and the real point of this message: Some time ago I was given several 18GB 10k-rpm SCA SCSI disks that had been removed from an IBM AS400. I knew they had strange native sector sizes (522 bytes in the case of the drives I have). When

Re: Disks w/non-512-byte sectors?

2015-01-19 Thread Michael van Elst
jdba...@mylinuxisp.com ("John D. Baker") writes: >I was of the impression that the 4K sector business was to address(!) >the problem of disk capacity outrunning the addressing capacity of the >Task File interface on IDE/PATA/SATA disks, evening with all the funky >bit reassignments to squeeze out

Re: Disks w/non-512-byte sectors?

2015-01-18 Thread John D. Baker
On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 21:08:48 -0500, Greg Troxel wrote: > Agreed on all of that, but to respond to John's question: the disk > has 4K sectors on the media, but has an interface that acts like 512B > sectors. So if you do a write which is aligned to start on 4K and is > a multiple of 4K, it will b

Re: Disks w/non-512-byte sectors?

2015-01-18 Thread Greg Troxel
mlel...@serpens.de (Michael van Elst) writes: > jdba...@mylinuxisp.com ("John D. Baker") writes: > >>First, can anyone point me to message threads about how modern 4K-sector >>disks are to be handled? I must admit some confusion when reading about >>4K native sectors, but having to deal with a 5

Re: Disks w/non-512-byte sectors?

2015-01-18 Thread Michael van Elst
jdba...@mylinuxisp.com ("John D. Baker") writes: >First, can anyone point me to message threads about how modern 4K-sector >disks are to be handled? I must admit some confusion when reading about >4K native sectors, but having to deal with a 512-byte emulation mode. >At what point does the emulat

Disks w/non-512-byte sectors?

2015-01-18 Thread John D. Baker
First, can anyone point me to message threads about how modern 4K-sector disks are to be handled? I must admit some confusion when reading about 4K native sectors, but having to deal with a 512-byte emulation mode. At what point does the emulation get out of the way and allow one to address the na