8.0 rc1 barfs during install

2018-05-07 Thread Kathe
i have an amd64 system which runs well with freebsd, openbsd and ubuntu. with netbsd 8.0 rc1, it barfs while outputing the message below; sdhc0: adma error, status ff sdhc0: timeout waiting for mask 0x3 value 0 (state=0x) sdhc0: command or data phase inhibited sdhc0: timeout waiting for

Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install

2018-05-08 Thread Kathe
> From mar...@duskware.de Tue May 8 07:35:50 2018 > From: Martin Husemann <mar...@duskware.de> > To: Kathe <ka...@sdf.org> > Cc: ht...@twofifty.com, netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install > > On Tue, May 08, 2018 at 07:30:57AM +,

Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install

2018-05-08 Thread Kathe
> From mar...@duskware.de Tue May 8 06:55:15 2018 > From: Martin Husemann <mar...@duskware.de> > To: Kathe <ka...@sdf.org> > Cc: ht...@twofifty.com, netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install > > On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 04:23:39PM +, K

Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install

2018-05-08 Thread Kathe
i do own a phone, just that it's not a smart-phone, i dislike them. :) > From ht...@twofifty.com Mon May 7 16:41:54 2018 > From: Hisashi T Fujinaka <ht...@twofifty.com> > X-X-Sender: ht...@chris.i8u.org > To: Kathe <ka...@sdf.org> > cc: mar...@duskware.de, netbsd-use

Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install

2018-05-10 Thread Kathe
> From mar...@duskware.de Thu May 10 09:20:49 2018 > From: Martin Husemann <mar...@duskware.de> > To: Kathe <ka...@sdf.org> > Cc: ht...@twofifty.com, netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install > > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 07:19:08AM +0

Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install

2018-05-10 Thread Kathe
> From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-kathe=sdf@netbsd.org Tue May 8 07:36:07 > 2018 > From: Martin Husemann <mar...@duskware.de> > To: Kathe <ka...@sdf.org> > Cc: ht...@twofifty.com, netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install > Send

Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install

2018-05-12 Thread Kathe
> From mar...@duskware.de Thu May 10 09:20:49 2018 > From: Martin Husemann <mar...@duskware.de> > To: Kathe <ka...@sdf.org> > Cc: ht...@twofifty.com, netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install > > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 07:19:08AM +0

Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install

2018-05-07 Thread Kathe
> From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-kathe=sdf@netbsd.org Mon May 7 16:18:04 > 2018 > From: Martin Husemann <mar...@duskware.de> > To: Hisashi T Fujinaka <ht...@twofifty.com> > Cc: Kathe <ka...@sdf.org>, netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs d

Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install

2018-05-07 Thread Kathe
umnn, i don't have the equipment to get the video of the screen. i can provide reports using other operating systems, do let me know. > From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-kathe=sdf@netbsd.org Mon May 7 16:08:41 > 2018 > From: Hisashi T Fujinaka <ht...@twofifty.com> &

Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install

2018-05-07 Thread Kathe
> From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-kathe=sdf@netbsd.org Mon May 7 15:50:58 > 2018 > From: Martin Husemann <mar...@duskware.de> > To: Kathe <ka...@sdf.org> > Cc: netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install > Sender: netbsd-users-ow...@ne

why bother about zfs and dtrace.

2018-05-23 Thread Kathe
i doubt if zfs and dtrace work on every hardware port supported by netbsd. if not, why bother including them with just some of the ports? this thought occured when i wondered about the use-case for zfs and dtrace in embedded systems.

zfs and dtrace, as specialized add-ons?

2018-05-23 Thread Kathe
why can't zfs and dtrace be supported as specialized add-ons? so basically, the system delivered as is should not have zfs and dtrace bundle-in but rather be configured and compiled-in by those users who need them.

why zfs and dtrace?

2018-05-23 Thread Kathe
i doubt if zfs and dtrace work on every platform port currently supported by netbsd, and if the ever will. why then bother with zfs and dtrace at all? :)

rump kernel approach?

2018-05-23 Thread Kathe
would it be possible to reduce the size of the system post first install by way of employing the rump kernel approach to only load the sub-systems and device drivers required by a particular hardware configuration?

sorry about the double post

2018-05-23 Thread Kathe
apologies for sending in 2 similar emails. don't know what i was thinking about. :)

Re: zfs and dtrace, as specialized add-ons?

2018-05-23 Thread Kathe
> From g...@lexort.com Wed May 23 14:33:00 2018 > From: Greg Troxel <g...@lexort.com> > To: Kathe <ka...@sdf.org> > Cc: netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: zfs and dtrace, as specialized add-ons? > OpenPGP: id=098ED60E > X-Hashcash: > 1:20:180523:netbs

netbsd-daily/head is a gig!

2018-06-09 Thread Kathe
i waited 2 days per my 'isp' manager's suggestion to balance out my bandwidth quota and tried to download today's head from; ftp://nyftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/HEAD/201806090120Z/images/NetBSD-8.99.19-amd64-uefi-install.img.gz that file turned out to be a gig in size, just impossible to

howto request a new package?

2018-06-09 Thread Kathe
is there any process for requesting a new package? actually it's just a modification of an existing package, just that netbsd isn't running on my machine yet, and even if it did, i just don't know how to create a new package from scratch. thanks.

sacrilegious question : netbsd 8 : release date : approximate?

2018-06-05 Thread Kathe
i have been trying the daily builds of netbsd-8 and none of them work. my 'isp' has started hollering about my data usage, hence will have to take a break, hence the question; netbsd-8 release date approximation? thanks.

Re: sacrilegious question : netbsd 8 : release date : approximate?

2018-06-05 Thread Kathe
i get my netbsd-8 from the url below; ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-8.0_RC1/amd64/installation/cdrom/ what is "head"? and how do i get it? thanks. > From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-kathe=sdf@netbsd.org Tue Jun 5 12:32:11 > 2018 > From: Martin Husemann > T

zenlisp : package request

2018-02-03 Thread Kathe
hi, is there any way i could request building a new package under netbsd? -mayuresh

Re: thinkpad : e470 : bootup : barfs at acpi

2018-02-04 Thread Kathe
> From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-kathe=sdf@netbsd.org Sun Feb 4 08:47:57 > 2018 > Subject: Re: thinkpad : e470 : bootup : barfs at acpi > To: Kathe <ka...@sdf.org>, da...@netbsd.org, netbsd-users@netbsd.org > From: Matthias Petermann <matth...@petermann-it.de>

Re: thinkpad : e470 : bootup : barfs at acpi

2018-02-04 Thread Kathe
> From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-kathe=sdf@netbsd.org Sun Feb 4 11:05:21 > 2018 > From: Martin Husemann <mar...@duskware.de> > To: Matthias Petermann <matth...@petermann-it.de> > Cc: Kathe <ka...@sdf.org>, netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: thin

thinkpad : e470 : bootup : barfs at acpi

2018-02-03 Thread Kathe
record the dmesg, led me to wonder if sending in the dmesg using linux be of any help. -kathe

Re: thinkpad : e470 : bootup : barfs at acpi

2018-02-03 Thread Kathe
> From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-kathe=sdf@netbsd.org Sun Feb 4 04:13:51 > 2018 > Subject: Re: thinkpad : e470 : bootup : barfs at acpi > To: Kathe <ka...@sdf.org>, netbsd-users@netbsd.org > From: "D'Arcy Cain" <da...@netbsd.org> > Sender: netbsd-use

swi-prolog-lite : further slimming down?

2018-04-13 Thread Kathe
i found swi-prolog-lite at http://pkgsrc.se/lang/swi-prolog-lite and noticed that it needed "bash, gmp, readline" at runtime. can those 3 dependencies be removed without making swipl unusable?

unbootable 7.1.2 amd64

2018-04-13 Thread Kathe
i am trying to get netbsd 7.1.2 amd64 to run on my thinkpad e470. failing with "acpi" and "no acpi" options. "acpi" option is a no go. "no acpi" option goes forth and stops at; boot device: root device: it doesn't do anything, but just sits there rather smugly, mocking my helplessness. :) is

lang/swi-prolog-lite : lighter still

2018-04-17 Thread Kathe
can the swi-prolog-lite package be made even more lighter? i saw http://pkgsrc.se/lang/swi-prolog-lite and wondered if it's dependence on bash, gmp and readline can be removed. thanks.

Re: lang/swi-prolog-lite : lighter still

2018-04-17 Thread Kathe
neither do i have the skills, nor the knowledge. :( > From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-kathe=sdf@netbsd.org Tue Apr 17 09:39:49 > 2018 > From: Benny Siegert <bsieg...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: lang/swi-prolog-lite : lighter still > To: ka...@sdf.org > Cc: netbsd-u

Re: lang/swi-prolog-lite : lighter still

2018-04-18 Thread Kathe
> From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-kathe=sdf@netbsd.org Tue Apr 17 11:03:13 > 2018 > From: Leonardo Taccari <l...@netbsd.org> > To: netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: lang/swi-prolog-lite : lighter still > Comments: In-reply-to Leonardo Taccari <l...@netbsd.org&g

netbsd : 6.1.4 : on lenovo m72e tiny : works well?

2014-06-14 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, i am new to netbsd, currently running 6.1.2 on my old assembled desktop. does anyone has any experience running netbsd 6.1.4 on a lenovo m72e tiny machine? would like to know if there are any issues like excessive heating or anything else i should be aware of before going ahead with the

Re: netbsd : 6.1.4 : on lenovo m72e tiny : works well?

2014-06-14 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 07:50:31PM +0200, Ottavio Caruso wrote: On 14 June 2014 17:43, Mayuresh Kathe mayur...@kathe.in wrote: does anyone has any experience running netbsd 6.1.4 on a lenovo m72e tiny machine? I have experience of this machines running Windows 7 at the local library

Re: netbsd : 6.1.4 : on lenovo m72e tiny : works well?

2014-06-14 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 08:35:16PM +0200, Leonardo Taccari wrote: Hello Mayuresh, On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 05:57:50PM +, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: is there any way to test hardware support without installing netbsd? i could always convince the vendor to let me run a live cd or something

netbsd : books?

2014-06-15 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, are there any books which are specific to netbsd? i saw a 2 volume set called netbsd system manager's manual by jeremy c reed on amazon.com, but it is from june 2010, infact, over 4 years old. isn't there anything newer? thanks, ~mayuresh

Re: netbsd : books?

2014-06-15 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 04:07:06AM -0700, Edward M wrote: On 06/15/14 03:59, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: hello, are there any books which are specific to netbsd? i saw a 2 volume set called netbsd system manager's manual by jeremy c reed on amazon.com, but it is from june 2010, infact, over 4

switching between virtual terminals : difficult

2014-06-15 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, is there any reason why the right hand side ctrl and alt keys on the keyboard don't work while attempting to switch virtual terminals, eg. ctrl + alt + fnx? i am now running 6.1.4 on an amd64. should i be sending in the dmesg too? thanks, ~mayuresh

6.1.4 : fresh install : boot device not found

2014-06-15 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, i messed up my 6.1.4 on amd64 system, so did a fresh install. everything went well, but while first boot, it showed; boot device: not found root device it just stayed put till the point i installed another system and then re-installed netbsd 6.1.4, this time, everything went well,

any netbsd hosting providers?

2014-06-17 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, are there any web hosting providers specializing in netbsd? would like to evalute some for my client who's expressed interest in moving away from linux (centos). thanks, ~mayuresh

Re: email management under netbsd : any simple strategies?

2014-06-17 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:32:32PM +0200, Leonardo Taccari wrote: Hello Mayuresh, On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 06:18:35PM +, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: hello, i have been using mutt under various linux based systems as well as under freebsd. looks like the mutt under netbsd (via pkgin

Re: email management under netbsd : any simple strategies?

2014-06-17 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 10:14:54AM +0900, Ryo ONODERA wrote: From: Mayuresh Kathe mayur...@kathe.in, Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 18:18:35 + hello, i have been using mutt under various linux based systems as well as under freebsd. looks like the mutt under netbsd (via pkgin

will netbsd be sticking with gcc?

2014-06-17 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, i just read a note somewhere on the web about netbsd folks trying out an alternative compiler set (pcc). did that not work out? i have heard good things about pcc, mostly, except for perhaps the fact that it doesn't yet support all the netbsd platforms which gcc does. so does that mean

Re: will netbsd be sticking with gcc?

2014-06-18 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 08:19:04AM +0200, Martin Husemann wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 07:40:52AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: i have heard good things about pcc, mostly, except for perhaps the fact that it doesn't yet support all the netbsd platforms which gcc does. And it has no C

lua in kernel!

2014-06-18 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, while i was drawn to netbsd because of the upcoming lua support in the kernel and userland, i am quite lost about the probable use cases for real-world scenarios. prima-face, it feels quite strange to have a scriptable kernel and have that capability extended through out the userland. i

install fails at newfs

2014-06-21 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, i had to wipe out my system and reinstall 6.1.4 (for amd64) because my constant tinkering messed up something somewhere and the system stopped booting successfully. during the install, at the point where newfs is run it stopped moving ahead. it mentioned something about rwd0a being

Re: install fails at newfs

2014-06-22 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2014-06-22 14:19, Martin Husemann wrote: On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 11:04:15AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: it gave me the following error; newfs: /dev/rwd0a: open for read: Device busy You should check the output of mount in this case - it is probably already mounted somewhere. will do

Re: specs for a netbsd build system?

2014-06-22 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 08:34:10AM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: Mayuresh Kathe mayur...@kathe.in writes: i have no idea about what kind of hardware would be required for performing an entire netbsd build within acceptable time-frames, say 1 hour (without x win). may i please get advice

netbsd website : xml, xslt and make?

2014-06-23 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, i apologise upfront if this is the wrong list for the question, and would appreciate being pointed to the right one. i just read on the netbsd projects list page that the website infrastructure maintenance depends on a xml, xslt and make. does that mean that the website is written

kernel+userland will become c99?

2014-06-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, i read that all new code in the netbsd tree has to be c99. is that really a mandatory condition? if yes, would that mean, over a period of time, all of the netbsd userland would be converted to c99? and would the kernel be brought up to that same standard? if yes, wouldn't it be quite a

the bare necessities ...

2014-09-04 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, due to unforeseen circumstances, i need to cut down on my budget for a machine to run netbsd on. intended use of the machine; 1. re-write as many of the base tree c++ tools/utils in c89 as required for a functional system. 2. work at getting as much of a functional system as possible

Re: the bare necessities ...

2014-09-04 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2014-09-05 04:00, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: Hello Mayuresh Kathe, You may be interested in ideas from MirBSD, they run for 10 years without C++ in base. yes, i have heard of them, and interacted with thorsten regarding mksh, seemed like a good guy. i am also drawing inspiration from openbsd

obj-c support : still on?

2014-09-09 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, i have been reading up archives for the topic mentioned in the subject. may i know the state of objective-c support under netbsd 6.1.4 as well as the upcoming 7.0? thanks, ~mayuresh

Re: something like linux-fb?

2014-09-10 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2014-09-10 18:11, Mayuresh wrote: On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 11:02:42PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: is there something under netbsd which provides capabilities similar to the linux graphics framebuffer driver? https://mail-index.netbsd.org/pkgsrc-wip-review/2012/02/26/msg001372.html

Re: something like linux-fb?

2014-09-10 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2014-09-11 00:27, u...@stderr.spb.ru wrote: Mayuresh Kathe mayur...@kathe.in wrote: On 2014-09-10 18:11, Mayuresh wrote: On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 11:02:42PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: is there something under netbsd which provides capabilities similar to the linux graphics framebuffer

Re: hp aio : netbsd won't boot ...

2014-09-24 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:59:01PM +0200, Manuel Bouyer wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 01:42:47AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: okay, i finally got myself a low end machine at an affordable price. http://hpshopping.in/HP_18-5019il_All-in-One_Desktop_PC the problems started after unpacking

Re: hp aio : netbsd won't boot ...

2014-09-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2014-09-25 14:15, Manuel Bouyer wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:56:32AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: it says something along the lines of disk busy, can't be used. This helps a bit (the exact error message would be better). Are your trying to install NetBSD current, or a release ? i am

Re: hp aio : netbsd won't boot ...

2014-09-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2014-09-25 16:52, Manuel Bouyer wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 04:35:05PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: On 2014-09-25 14:15, Manuel Bouyer wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:56:32AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: it says something along the lines of disk busy, can't be used. This helps a bit

Re: hp aio : netbsd won't boot ...

2014-09-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2014-09-25 17:15, Manuel Bouyer wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 05:11:37PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: nothing special, just followed the prompts. I guess you did something special; like use existing partitions when there's no existing parititon. Anyway, the problem is there ... nope

Re: hp aio : netbsd won't boot ...

2014-09-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2014-09-25 17:41, Eric Haszlakiewicz wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 04:35:05PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: `fdisk wd0` output below. ... Partition table: 0: GPT Protective MBR (sysid 238) start 1, size 976773167 (476940 MB, Cyls 0/0/2-60801/80/63) PBR is not bootable: Bad

bootsplash for netbsd?

2014-09-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, perhaps my googling skills are bad, but i couldn't find a way to present a bootsplash under netbsd. does it exist? if it does, where may i find more information about it's usage? thanks, -mayuresh

Re: bootsplash for netbsd?

2014-09-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:18:05AM -0600, Roy Bixler wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 07:58:03PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: perhaps my googling skills are bad, but i couldn't find a way to present a bootsplash under netbsd. does it exist? if it does, where may i find more information

amd64 : 6.1.5 : obj-c learning : what to install?

2014-10-24 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, i finally got the obj-c book by brad cox. what are the bare minimum packages needed to start off with learning obj-c under netbsd 6.1.5 (amd64)? thanks, ~mayuresh

Re: amd64 : 6.1.5 : obj-c learning : what to install?

2014-10-24 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 05:57:00PM +0200, Riccardo Mottola wrote: Hi, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: hello, i finally got the obj-c book by brad cox. what are the bare minimum packages needed to start off with learning obj-c under netbsd 6.1.5 (amd64)? gcc with obj-c support and your

netbsd : internals : 4.4bsd book : good start?

2017-06-06 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, would the 4.4bsd book by mckusick, et all be a good start to begin understanding netbsd internals? thanks, -mayuresh