Re: NetBSD install and usage by the blind

2016-04-09 Thread Michael van Elst
chris...@astron.com (Christos Zoulas) writes: >>Actually, later generation HP ILOs will allow ssh to the console. The >>unfortunate thing is that you need to buy an ILO licence to do it (or >>buy an old server that has the extended ILO licence installed). You >>only get a very limited ILO

Re: NetBSD install and usage by the blind

2016-04-09 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Sat, 9 Apr 2016 09:37:36 +0100 Adam Thompson wrote: > That'd definitely work, and as you say, it'd be easy to see if > someone else had already started the install. I guess this'd be a > separate piece of software which was then "crunched" into the single > binary in

Re: NetBSD install and usage by the blind

2016-04-09 Thread Adam Thompson
On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 11:43:14PM -0400, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: > On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 20:27:16 + (UTC) > mlel...@serpens.de (Michael van Elst) wrote: > > Unfortunately it doesn't inlcude an sshd, all commands are statically > > linked into a big "crunched" binary, it is limited in size and

Re: NetBSD install and usage by the blind

2016-04-08 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 20:27:16 + (UTC) mlel...@serpens.de (Michael van Elst) wrote: > Unfortunately it doesn't inlcude an sshd, all commands are statically > linked into a big "crunched" binary, it is limited in size and the > default sshd build includes every feature but the kitchen sink. Even

Re: NetBSD install and usage by the blind

2016-04-08 Thread Christos Zoulas
In article <20160409015035.gb...@internode.on.net>, Brett Lymn wrote: >On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 10:49:12AM +, Michael van Elst wrote: >> >> Some PCs have remote management support (e.g. ILO for HP servers >> or Intel AMT). But these usually provide some graphical user

Re: NetBSD install and usage by the blind

2016-04-08 Thread Brett Lymn
On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 10:49:12AM +, Michael van Elst wrote: > > Some PCs have remote management support (e.g. ILO for HP servers > or Intel AMT). But these usually provide some graphical user interface > or web interface only. Nothing you could easily make accessible. > Actually, later

Re: NetBSD install and usage by the blind

2016-04-08 Thread coypu
Perhaps installing from a live-image will be easier, if something from pkgsrc has to be added to use the normal install image.

Re: NetBSD install and usage by the blind

2016-04-08 Thread Michael van Elst
arthompson1...@gmail.com (Adam Thompson) writes: >I'm not sure if the box has serial, thinking about it it may well do. In w= >hich >case, how does one get an appropriately configured install cd? When building a CD image the source file distrib/amd64/cdroms/installcd/boot.cfg.in is used as a

Re: NetBSD install and usage by the blind

2016-04-08 Thread Adam Thompson
On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 07:45:05PM +, co...@sdf.org wrote: > On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 08:00:22PM +0100, Adam Thompson wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 10:37:26AM +, co...@sdf.org wrote: > > > Clarifying I mean to perform an install to disk using QEMU. > > > Afterwards, you can boot it. >

Re: NetBSD install and usage by the blind

2016-04-08 Thread coypu
On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 08:00:22PM +0100, Adam Thompson wrote: > On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 10:37:26AM +, co...@sdf.org wrote: > > Clarifying I mean to perform an install to disk using QEMU. > > Afterwards, you can boot it. > > That may be possible and hadn't occured to me as an option. The

Re: NetBSD install and usage by the blind

2016-04-08 Thread Adam Thompson
On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 10:37:26AM +, co...@sdf.org wrote: > Clarifying I mean to perform an install to disk using QEMU. > Afterwards, you can boot it. That may be possible and hadn't occured to me as an option. The trick would be to set things up such that I can install to the disk then

Re: NetBSD install and usage by the blind

2016-04-08 Thread Adam Thompson
On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 10:49:12AM +, Michael van Elst wrote: > Installation usually requires access to a console, and the default PC > console is a physical keyboard and VGA display. I'm not aware of any > easy solution to make that accessible and googling for BIOS access > for blind people

Re: NetBSD install and usage by the blind

2016-04-08 Thread Michael van Elst
arthompson1...@gmail.com (Adam Thompson) writes: >As a long-time user of unix-like systems (primarily Linux, with a few others as >well) I'm interested in setting up a machine with NetBSD. However I'm blind >and >can't find any examples of either accessibility options in the installer or an

Re: NetBSD install and usage by the blind

2016-04-08 Thread coypu
Clarifying I mean to perform an install to disk using QEMU. Afterwards, you can boot it.

Re: NetBSD install and usage by the blind

2016-04-08 Thread coypu
On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 07:16:42AM +0100, Adam Thompson wrote: > Hi all, > > As a long-time user of unix-like systems (primarily Linux, with a few others > as > well) I'm interested in setting up a machine with NetBSD. However I'm blind > and > can't find any examples of either accessibility