Re: Terrible system slowness

2020-03-24 Thread ignatios
Hallo,


On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 10:08:27PM -0400, Todd Gruhn wrote:
>I decided to get back to running NetBSD on a new computer with a spare
>drive:
>Just now I ran /bin/ksh configure for lesstif. The configure operation
>alone too 45min.

That's not normal at all. Please post your /var/run/dmesg.boot, maybe
some timer is misdetected... did the situation improve after your
reinstall?

>According to
>swapctl -g -s this is 298GB (UGHH!) is there a nice way to trim the swap
>partition?

Well, swactl -d yourswapdevice
edit the partition table, depending on your partitioning method 
swapctl -a yourswapdevice
use the now-free space for something else.

For details, read

http://www.netbsd.org/docs/misc/index.html#swap
man swap
man fstab

>ALSO, is there a point where adding swap to a mechanical HD becomes a
>liability?
>Has anyone messed with swap on a RAMDISK?

There's no point doing that. Even no swap at all will work, given your
RAM size, unless you want do do really big operations, and the RAM 
is better used directly than to copy other RAM before using it.

However; (normally) the (first) swap device is used as a dump device;
should the kernel crash, a core dump is written and can, at reboot, be
written by savecore to /var/crash/... where it can later be analyzed.
This dump device must be big enough to save all active memory (possibly
compessed), so having it at least as big as your RAM is a good idea.

Regards,
-is



Re: Terrible system slowness

2020-03-24 Thread Sad Clouds
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 22:08:27 -0400
Todd Gruhn  wrote:

> Any advice/ideas will be greatly appreciated. If  it matters, I am
> running NetBSD-9.99.x.
> This is not a working/production system just yet. I can experiment,
> for the moment.

Have you tried the latest stable release i.e. 9.0? If you run a
development snapshot you may find various issues that have not been
fixed yet.


Re: Terrible system slowness

2020-03-24 Thread Manuel Bouyer
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 10:08:27PM -0400, Todd Gruhn wrote:
> I decided to get back to running NetBSD on a new computer with a spare
> drive:
> 
> Just now I ran /bin/ksh configure for lesstif. The configure operation
> alone too 45min.
> (WHY!?) I have 64GB RAM, and a 1TB SATA harddrive.
> 
> I redid the install this time using cylinders. Swap is 39000 cyl. According
> to
> swapctl -g -s this is 298GB (UGHH!) is there a nice way to trim the swap
> partition?
> 
> ALSO, is there a point where adding swap to a mechanical HD becomes a
> liability?
> 
> Has anyone messed with swap on a RAMDISK? I have 64GB RAM -- thats part of
> the
> idea for so much RAM. How would I carve out a 32GB RAMDISK and make that
> the swap
> device? The idea being that a RAM-to-RAM transfer is about 10,000x as fast
> as a
> RAM-to-mechanical-disk transfer?
> 
> Any advice/ideas will be greatly appreciated. If  it matters, I am running
> NetBSD-9.99.x.

Lots of changes happened in the last few weeks in kernel land, so the 'x'
here is important. If not already the case, install the most recent
-current.

-- 
Manuel Bouyer 
 NetBSD: 26 ans d'experience feront toujours la difference
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