Re: talk-conntrack-nat.patch

2002-04-08 Thread Takuya Satoh
newnat has an own talk-conntrack-nat.patch. In the extra directory you can find the non-newnat variant. Thanks, but where is the newnat version then? The only talk modules are these in the extra dir: talk-conntrack-nat.patch talk-conntrack-nat.patch.config.in

Re: talk-conntrack-nat.patch

2002-04-08 Thread Jozsef Kadlecsik
On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Takuya Satoh wrote: newnat has an own talk-conntrack-nat.patch. In the extra directory you can find the non-newnat variant. Thanks, but where is the newnat version then? The only talk modules are these in the extra dir: You're right and I spread false information,

Re: [UPnP-SDK-discuss] UPNP Server/Application Gateway for Linux

2002-04-08 Thread Harald Welte
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 03:48:26PM +0200, Henrik Nordstrom wrote: On Sunday 07 April 2002 12:07, Brian J. Murrell wrote: Dynamically inserting/removing rules seems like a big hack, but not like a solution. Why? I thought that userspace solutions were _always_ considered the better

Re: [UPnP-SDK-discuss] UPNP Server/Application Gateway for Linux

2002-04-08 Thread Henrik Nordstrom
On Monday 08 April 2002 05:36, Brian J. Murrell wrote: But even with it, I have to trust the client app that it will do good (and secure) with the hole in the firewall that I have allocated for it. See my earlier message. The holes should be subject to your firewalling policy. Oh. I see

Re: [UPnP-SDK-discuss] UPNP Server/Application Gateway for Linux

2002-04-08 Thread Nils Ohlmeier
On Monday 08 April 2002 16:29, Brian J. Murrell wrote: On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:16:38AM +0200, Harald Welte wrote: I totally agree. Of course those 'orders' would need to go through some firewall-admin defined policy, before hitting netfilter/iptables. If it is indeed possible to do

RE: [UPnP-SDK-discuss] UPNP Server/Application Gateway for Linux

2002-04-08 Thread Glover George
Brian you always wrote about trusting your clients. sarcastic If you do not trust your clients don't connect them to the internet. /sarcastic How do you know in detail what your clients send or receive over connections to port 80? I assume that nearly all readers of this mailing list

Re: Bandwidth limiting

2002-04-08 Thread Harald Welte
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 03:14:59PM +0200, Nigel Kukard wrote: hrmmm, ok after trying out tc for the last week i've noticed it is not even nearly as powerfull as netfilter. I think the LARTC mailinglist is more apropriate, since it is about interaction between iproute2/tc and

Re: [UPnP-SDK-discuss] UPNP Server/Application Gateway for Linux

2002-04-08 Thread Eric Wirt
For anyone interested in the UPnP daemon, I have a (semi) working one up for download. It is terribly unsecure, probably unstable, and will need alot of work. That said, it does compile and run, and allows a MSN Messenger clinet to both initiated and accept voice and video traffic from behind a

Re: [UPnP-SDK-discuss] UPNP Server/Application Gateway for Linux

2002-04-08 Thread Henrik Nordstrom
On Monday 08 April 2002 16:29, Brian J. Murrell wrote: If it is indeed possible to do this. How does the UPnP determine for what purposes a client request is being made? If the answer is well the client says what it is for then again, that is useless. There is multiple choices here. a)

Re: [UPnP-SDK-discuss] UPNP Server/Application Gateway for Linux

2002-04-08 Thread Henrik Nordstrom
On Monday 08 April 2002 18:03, Nils Ohlmeier wrote: Brian you always wrote about trusting your clients. sarcastic If you do not trust your clients don't connect them to the internet. /sarcastic How do you know in detail what your clients send or receive over connections to port 80? I assume

UPnP Gateway Available Now

2002-04-08 Thread Eric Wirt
Sorry for the double post, but I noticed that my original message ended up stuck to the end of one of the first UPnP threads, and figured it may be missed there. I'm not really sure how many people read the archives vs. how many are actually subscribed to the list, but I figured this might

RE: [UPnP-SDK-discuss] Usage Scenario

2002-04-08 Thread Reynolds, Alfred
snip But this thread is about how we can provide UPnP port mapping within iptables/netfilter in a sensible manner, not how poor the reality of Internet security actually is when you do not trust your clients at all. I say providing UPnP with a adequate level of security for the scope

[Q] Adding a rule to a table, match-check_entry() behavior

2002-04-08 Thread Joakim Axelsson
As i'm almost finished with my new match (superlimit). I ran into some strange things. It seams that each time I add a new rule to a table the entire table is reloaded. Because match-checkentry() for my new match is being runned once for each existing rule in the table and once for the new rule

Re: [UPnP-SDK-discuss] UPNP Server/Application Gateway for Linux

2002-04-08 Thread Nils Ohlmeier
On Tuesday 09 April 2002 01:18, Henrik Nordstrom wrote: But this thread is about how we can provide UPnP port mapping within iptables/netfilter in a sensible manner, not how poor the reality of Internet security actually is when you do not trust your clients at all. I say providing UPnP with

Re: [UPnP-SDK-discuss] UPNP Server/Application Gateway for Linux

2002-04-08 Thread Henrik Nordstrom
On Tuesday 09 April 2002 03:48, Brian J. Murrell wrote: I must be missing something here because we seem be going around and around on this issue. There are no defined ports that you can discern what gets opened and what doesn't. It sounds to me like all ports are ephemeral, which makes

Re: [UPnP-SDK-discuss] UPNP Server/Application Gateway for Linux

2002-04-08 Thread Henrik Nordstrom
On Tuesday 09 April 2002 03:48, Nils Ohlmeier wrote: If i understand the spec correct, a UPnP deamon have also to provide control over your ppp-deamon. The main aspect of the spec is configuring and controling your dialup connection and the posibility to configure port-forwarding is