Re: [netmod] datastore conformance

2017-07-25 Thread Andy Bierman
Hi, I am aware how YANG identities work. Let the market decide. Good enough. Andy On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Phil Shafer wrote: > Andy Bierman writes: > >The YANG definitions defined for NETCONF and RESTCONF operations do not > actually > >require the "real"

Re: [netmod] datastore conformance

2017-07-25 Thread Phil Shafer
Andy Bierman writes: >The YANG definitions defined for NETCONF and RESTCONF operations do not >actually >require the "real" datastore identities to be used by a server. The identities are defined in the YANG modules contained in the NMDA draft (draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores). The

Re: [netmod] nmda-guidelines-01: value space for config vs state

2017-07-25 Thread Kent Watsen
> Do we need to call this/these scenarios out directly > in the NMDA draft? Or is this more of an FAQ item? I support putting it in the NMDA draft. Already I looked for an example in the Appendix, which I thought might be there, given how often I know the NMDA-authors discussed it. But,

Re: [netmod] nmda-guidelines-01: value space for config vs state

2017-07-25 Thread Phil Shafer
"Sterne, Jason (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)" writes: > OK - so the same leaf (in the schema) has the same value space in the > conventional datastores and in the operational datastore. That probably > makes sense since a single schema describes the model for that leaf > whether it is accessed in

Re: [netmod] datastore conformance

2017-07-25 Thread Andy Bierman
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Juergen Schoenwaelder < j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 01:01:29PM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote: > > > > The YANG identityref allows any identity that is derived from the > > same base. You keep talking about "the" operational

Re: [netmod] datastore conformance

2017-07-25 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 01:01:29PM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote: > > The YANG identityref allows any identity that is derived from the > same base. You keep talking about "the" operational datastore when > in fact your YANG definitions require no such thing. They merely > require any identify with

Re: [netmod] datastore conformance

2017-07-25 Thread Andy Bierman
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Kent Watsen wrote: > > > > > > I am still concerned that the datastore conformance requirements are > > > under-specified and too server-centric. > > > > Okay. > > > > > > > The YANG definitions defined for NETCONF and RESTCONF operations >

Re: [netmod] datastore conformance

2017-07-25 Thread Kent Watsen
> I am still concerned that the datastore conformance requirements are > under-specified and too server-centric. Okay. > The YANG definitions defined for NETCONF and RESTCONF operations > do not actually require the "real" datastore identities to be used by a > server. > The server

Re: [netmod] nmda-guidelines-01: value space for config vs state

2017-07-25 Thread Sterne, Jason (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
OK – so the same leaf (in the schema) has the same value space in the conventional datastores and in the operational datastore. That probably makes sense since a single schema describes the model for that leaf whether it is accessed in conventional DSes or the operational DS. But I think that