Re: [netmod] comments on YANG versioning

2018-11-14 Thread Andy Bierman
On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 7:48 AM Robert Wilton wrote: > Hi Martin, > On 14/11/2018 11:48, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Hi, > > Robert Wilton wrote: > > On 08/11/2018 22:52, Andy Bierman wrote: > > Hi, > > A few comments on the netmod meeting yesterday > > 1) what is a bugfix? > It is not

Re: [netmod] Confirming draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-03 consensus call

2018-11-14 Thread Robert Wilton
On 14/11/2018 16:43, Christian Hopps wrote: On Nov 14, 2018, at 10:14 AM, Robert Wilton wrote: Hi Chris, On 14/11/2018 13:46, Christian Hopps wrote: Do you have similar objections over comments in CLI config files? No, not at all. But one difference here is that the tags are bound to

Re: [netmod] Confirming draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-03 consensus call

2018-11-14 Thread Andy Bierman
Hi, I think there are some legitimate issues that should be addressed for this work to go forward wrt/ how it will be used. 1) IANA registry: is this really needed at all? Doesn't the module-tag extension make the registry unnecessary? 2) Standard solution: will there be one or is the intent to

Re: [netmod] Confirming draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-03 consensus call

2018-11-14 Thread Christian Hopps
> On Nov 14, 2018, at 10:14 AM, Robert Wilton wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > On 14/11/2018 13:46, Christian Hopps wrote: >> Do you have similar objections over comments in CLI config files? > > No, not at all. > > But one difference here is that the tags are bound to modules, not to the >

Re: [netmod] comments on YANG versioning

2018-11-14 Thread Robert Wilton
On 14/11/2018 16:04, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Robert Wilton wrote: Hi Martin, On 14/11/2018 11:48, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Hi, Robert Wilton wrote: On 08/11/2018 22:52, Andy Bierman wrote: Hi, A few comments on the netmod meeting yesterday 1) what is a bugfix? It is not encouraging

Re: [netmod] comments on YANG versioning

2018-11-14 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Robert Wilton wrote: > Hi Martin, > > On 14/11/2018 11:48, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Robert Wilton wrote: > >> On 08/11/2018 22:52, Andy Bierman wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> A few comments on the netmod meeting yesterday > >>> > >>> 1) what is a bugfix? > >>> It is not encouraging

Re: [netmod] comments on YANG versioning

2018-11-14 Thread Robert Wilton
Hi Martin, On 14/11/2018 11:48, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Hi, Robert Wilton wrote: On 08/11/2018 22:52, Andy Bierman wrote: Hi, A few comments on the netmod meeting yesterday 1) what is a bugfix? It is not encouraging that the DT cannot agree on the scope of a bugfix. But not sure it

Re: [netmod] Confirming draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-03 consensus call

2018-11-14 Thread Robert Wilton
Hi Chris, On 14/11/2018 13:46, Christian Hopps wrote: Do you have similar objections over comments in CLI config files? No, not at all. But one difference here is that the tags are bound to modules, not to the config, or config paths. Routers (the server) certainly don't use those and

Re: [netmod] Confirming draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-03 consensus call

2018-11-14 Thread Christian Hopps
Do you have similar objections over comments in CLI config files? Routers (the server) certainly don't use those and clients write them and read them -- yet they are stored on the server. Perhaps if you thought of there being more than just one client possible this might all make more sense?

Re: [netmod] comments on YANG versioning

2018-11-14 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Hi, Robert Wilton wrote: > > On 08/11/2018 22:52, Andy Bierman wrote: > > Hi, > > > > A few comments on the netmod meeting yesterday > > > > 1) what is a bugfix? > > It is not encouraging that the DT cannot agree on the scope of a > > bugfix. > > But not sure it matters if NBC updates can occur

Re: [netmod] comments on YANG versioning

2018-11-14 Thread Robert Wilton
On 08/11/2018 22:52, Andy Bierman wrote: Hi, A few comments on the netmod meeting yesterday 1) what is a bugfix? It is not encouraging that the DT cannot agree on the scope of a bugfix. But not sure it matters if NBC updates can occur for any reason. IMO it is easy to define a bugfix in the

Re: [netmod] Deviations and augmentations

2018-11-14 Thread Robert Wilton
On 13/11/2018 18:26, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 05:54:27PM +, Robert Wilton wrote: I think that my main point regarding version numbers is:  - If we are going to use semver then we should define and follow the rules strictly.  I.e. assuming that the semver has

Re: [netmod] Confirming draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-03 consensus call

2018-11-14 Thread Robert Wilton
Hi Chris, On 13/11/2018 21:05, Christian Hopps wrote: The servers implement the modules which can have predefined tags from the module designer as well as the implementer (vendor) which literally cannot come from anywhere *but* the server that implements the module. Clients should also be

Re: [netmod] for a future rfc6991bis

2018-11-14 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Hi, Alex Campbell wrote: > Does a percentage really need a single standard type in the first > place? How about "units percent;"? At this point, after hearing about how different modules have differing requirement on this type, I tend to agree. /martin > >