Re: [netmod] IETF 104 Presentation Requests

2019-02-27 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 03:50:02AM +, Kent Watsen wrote: > If you are interested in presenting to the WG, please send your presentation > requests to the "netmod-chairs" alias (CC-ed) with the following information, > for each presentation request, if more than one: > > - name of the draf

[netmod] IETF 104 Presentation Requests

2019-02-27 Thread Kent Watsen
Dear WG, The preliminary IETF 104 Agenda has been posted [1]. NETMOD is currently scheduled to meet twice, 2 hours Tuesday morning and again for two hours on Friday morning. If you are interested in presenting to the WG, please send your presentation requests to the "netmod-chairs" alias (CC-e

[netmod] I-D Action: draft-chopps-netmod-geo-location-00.txt

2019-02-27 Thread Christian Hopps
FYI. > Begin forwarded message: > > From: internet-dra...@ietf.org > Subject: I-D Action: draft-chopps-netmod-geo-location-00.txt > Date: February 26, 2019 at 3:59:23 PM EST > To: > Reply-To: internet-dra...@ietf.org > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > d

[netmod] RFC7952 JSON streaming decoding efficiency?

2019-02-27 Thread Robert Varga
Hello, reading RFC7952 sections 5.2.2-5.2.4, it would seem that metadata object (5.2.2) can occur at any position in a JSON object, as well as metadata attachments to leaf/leaf-list/anyxml (5.2.3, 5.2.4) can occur any distance (before or after) from the data element they attach to. The examples l

Re: [netmod] Obsolete feature - what does it mean?

2019-02-27 Thread Kent Watsen
Hi Randy, > Are you saying that legacy boxes sitting in dark closets > would somehow be updated to provide this indication? Assuming YANG-next resolves the issue, and there is sufficient motivation then, yes, sys-admins would need to blow the dust off their servers (and clients) and update the

Re: [netmod] Obsolete feature - what does it mean?

2019-02-27 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - On 2/27/2019 10:17 AM, Kent Watsen wrote: ... If so, then there should be a way for the server to indicate which discretionary choices it made.   I'd suggest that "obsolete" defaults to "not-implemented" and thus only servers that want to continue support for the node need to indicate any

Re: [netmod] Obsolete feature - what does it mean?

2019-02-27 Thread Kent Watsen
> On Feb 27, 2019, at 11:48 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder > wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 04:09:17PM +, Kent Watsen wrote: >> >> >>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 6:16 AM, Balázs Lengyel >>> wrote: >>> >>> feature oldFeature { >>> status obsolete; >>> } >>> leaf myTimer { >>> if-feature oldF

Re: [netmod] artwork folding: dual support modes?

2019-02-27 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 27, 2019, at 08:30, Kent Watsen wrote: > > I'm hoping to optimize for this common case scenario. > > I do not agree that having having two folding approaches is an issue. I > would like to see this > BCP have the broadest appeal possible. It comes up due to t

Re: [netmod] Obsolete feature - what does it mean?

2019-02-27 Thread Andy Bierman
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 8:48 AM Juergen Schoenwaelder < j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 04:09:17PM +, Kent Watsen wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 27, 2019, at 6:16 AM, Balázs Lengyel < > balazs.leng...@ericsson.com> wrote: > > > > > > feature oldFeature { > >

Re: [netmod] Obsolete feature - what does it mean?

2019-02-27 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 04:09:17PM +, Kent Watsen wrote: > > > > On Feb 27, 2019, at 6:16 AM, Balázs Lengyel > > wrote: > > > > feature oldFeature { > > status obsolete; > > } > > leaf myTimer { > > if-feature oldFeature ; > > mandatory true; > > config true; > > status current;

Re: [netmod] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC7950 (5642)

2019-02-27 Thread Kent Watsen
Note: I just released this this email. Peter sent it on the 22nd, but it was trapped by Mailman: Post by non-member to a members-only list Kent // co-chair > On Feb 21, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Peter Loborg wrote: > > > Your example is fine – but the gammar is ch14 specifies somethin

Re: [netmod] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC7950 (5642)

2019-02-27 Thread Peter Loborg
Your example is fine – but the gammar is ch14 specifies something different: enum-stmt = enum-keyword sep string optsep (";" / "{" stmtsep ;; these stmts can appear in any order

Re: [netmod] artwork folding: dual support modes?

2019-02-27 Thread Kent Watsen
All, There seems to be some confusion. My original message said: Whereby this second form only supports the folded line continuing on column 1 (no indents). To be clear, if indents are desired, I strongly support using the double-backslash approach and do not recommend any other appr

Re: [netmod] Obsolete feature - what does it mean?

2019-02-27 Thread Kent Watsen
> On Feb 27, 2019, at 6:16 AM, Balázs Lengyel > wrote: > > feature oldFeature { > status obsolete; > } > leaf myTimer { > if-feature oldFeature ; > mandatory true; > config true; > status current; > type string; > } > So should I configure myTimer or not? I assume yes, correct? Th

Re: [netmod] Obsolete feature - what does it mean?

2019-02-27 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 11:16:55AM +, Balázs Lengyel wrote: > feature oldFeature { >status obsolete; > } > > leaf myTimer { >if-feature oldFeature ; >mandatory true; >config true; >status current; >type string; > } > >So should I configure myTimer or not? I ass

Re: [netmod] Obsolete feature - what does it mean?

2019-02-27 Thread Balázs Lengyel
feature oldFeature {   status obsolete; } leaf myTimer { if-feature oldFeature ; mandatory true; config true; status current; type string; } So should I configure myTimer or not? I assume yes, correct? regards Balazs On 2019. 02. 27. 11:33,

Re: [netmod] Obsolete feature - what does it mean?

2019-02-27 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 10:19:55AM +, Balázs Lengyel wrote: >Hello, > >The feature statement may have a status substatement. But what does it >mean if a feature is deprecated or obsolete? Some ideas: > > * All if-feature statements using it should be removed. But what to do >

Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-schoenw-netmod-rfc6991-bis-00.txt

2019-02-27 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
Hi, I have posted a baseline I-D for an update of the common YANG datatypes (RFC 6991). There are no content changes yet, this version reflects the content of RFC 6991. The idea is that this -00 version serves as a convenient baseline for the diff tools we have. /js On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 02:17

[netmod] Obsolete feature - what does it mean?

2019-02-27 Thread Balázs Lengyel
Hello, The feature statement may have a status substatement. But what does it mean if a feature is deprecated or obsolete? Some ideas: All if-feature statements using it should be removed. But what to do with "if-feature oldFeature AND otherFeature" ;

Re: [netmod] artwork folding: dual support modes?

2019-02-27 Thread Rob Wilton (rwilton)
Hi Adrian, I mostly agree with your last sentence. I think that if you always preserve whitespace then a single slash is fine. I.e. the single slash just breaks the line, and I think that this matches how editors, programming languages, etc normally behave. What I’m not keen on is using a sin

Re: [netmod] artwork folding: dual support modes?

2019-02-27 Thread Adrian Farrel
Complete agreement, Joel. What follows may look better in proportional fonts. With a single slash we can wrap as follows 12345679012345 Goes to… 1234567\ 9012345 …and unwrapping is easy. However, if I want to manually wrap the line with indentation T