Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8519 (5762)

2019-06-25 Thread Andy Bierman
On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 6:59 PM Mahesh Jethanandani wrote: > This errata should be rejected for the following reason. > > This errata should be rejected because the Errata process cannot be used to update a module. The normal WG document process needs to be used instead. A new revision of the mo

Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8519 (5762)

2019-06-25 Thread Qin Wu
Thanks Mahesh for clarification, one follow up question is Why acl type is defined as an optional parameter, we use when statement for each choice, let's say " choice l2 { container eth { when "derived-from-or-self(/acls/acl/type, " + "'

Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8519 (5762)

2019-06-25 Thread Mahesh Jethanandani
This errata should be rejected for the following reason. The whole idea of defining the identities for acl-type was to allow vendors to specify what capabilities their box is capable of supporting and then to specify what capabilities the vendors want to support. As such there is no “default ca

[netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8519 (5762)

2019-06-25 Thread RFC Errata System
The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8519, "YANG Data Model for Network Access Control Lists (ACLs)". -- You may review the report below and at: https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5762 -- Type: Technical Re

Re: [netmod] ?= ?==?utf-8?q? mandatory choice with non-presence container cas

2019-06-25 Thread Rob Wilton (rwilton)
> -Original Message- > From: netmod On Behalf Of Ladislav Lhotka > Sent: 25 June 2019 14:14 > To: netmod@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [netmod] ?= ?==?utf-8?q? mandatory choice with non-presence > container cas > > On Tue, 2019-06-25 at 13:59 +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Michal Vaško w

Re: [netmod] ?= ?==?utf-8?q? mandatory choice with non-presence container cas

2019-06-25 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On Tue, 2019-06-25 at 13:59 +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Michal Vaško wrote: > > Hi Rob, > > actually, I have used model with the container TOP just for > > simplification, I have encountered the issue while implementing > > ietf-ssh-server model from its current draft. I have created the > >

Re: [netmod] ?= ?==?utf-8?q? mandatory choice with non-presence container cas

2019-06-25 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Michal Vaško wrote: > Hi Rob, > actually, I have used model with the container TOP just for > simplification, I have encountered the issue while implementing > ietf-ssh-server model from its current draft. I have created the > container "users" [1] without any "user" list instances. Now, you may >

Re: [netmod] ?= ?==?utf-8?q? mandatory choice with non-presence container cas

2019-06-25 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On Tue, 2019-06-25 at 09:58 +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > Kent Watsen writes: > > > > > Hi Michal, > > > > I agree, but these valid data were correctly printed into invalid > > > > data. I do not think printing is allowed to change the validity of > > > > data. >

Re: [netmod] ?==?utf-8?q? ?==?utf-8?q? ?= mandatory choice with non-presence container cas

2019-06-25 Thread Michal Vaško
Hi Rob, actually, I have used model with the container TOP just for simplification, I have encountered the issue while implementing ietf-ssh-server model from its current draft. I have created the container "users" [1] without any "user" list instances. Now, you may argue that this is still not

Re: [netmod] ?= mandatory choice with non-presence container cas

2019-06-25 Thread Rob Wilton (rwilton)
Hi Michal, It is not the printing of the data that makes it valid/invalid. I don't think that your input data was ever valid, because "container C" doesn't satisfy the mandatory statement because it isn't a real data node in the tree - it is instantiated when required and may be deleted when it

Re: [netmod] ?= ?==?utf-8?q? mandatory choice with non-presence container cas

2019-06-25 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > Kent Watsen writes: > > > Hi Michal, > >> I agree, but these valid data were correctly printed into invalid > >> data. I do not think printing is allowed to change the validity of > >> data. > > The NP-container text is unclear. > > This issue IMO has more to do with

Re: [netmod] FW: a question about ietf-hardware yang module

2019-06-25 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 09:13:51AM +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I don't understand what is unclear about the current descriptions. Is > > it the relations to the MIB objects that are unclear or is it the > > descriptions in the YANG module? The o

Re: [netmod] FW: a question about ietf-hardware yang module

2019-06-25 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 09:13:51AM +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Hi, > > I don't understand what is unclear about the current descriptions. Is > it the relations to the MIB objects that are unclear or is it the > descriptions in the YANG module? The original question was: > > My question i

Re: [netmod] ?= ?==?utf-8?q? mandatory choice with non-presence container cas

2019-06-25 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Kent Watsen writes: Hi Michal, I agree, but these valid data were correctly printed into invalid data. I do not think printing is allowed to change the validity of data. The NP-container text is unclear. This issue IMO has more to do with the "mandatory" statement under "choice". Simi

Re: [netmod] FW: a question about ietf-hardware yang module

2019-06-25 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Hi, I don't understand what is unclear about the current descriptions. Is it the relations to the MIB objects that are unclear or is it the descriptions in the YANG module? The original question was: My question is whether only configuration change of hardware component will cause the updat