Re: [netmod] YANG model classification?

2016-04-08 Thread Alexander Clemm (alex)
matters, it does not simplify communication. --- Alex -Original Message- From: Juergen Schoenwaelder [mailto:j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 12:08 AM To: Alexander Clemm (alex) <a...@cisco.com> Cc: Carl Moberg (camoberg) <camob...@cisco.com

Re: [netmod] YANG model classification?

2016-04-08 Thread Alexander Clemm (alex)
(camoberg) Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 9:53 AM To: Andy Bierman <a...@yumaworks.com> Cc: Alexander Clemm (alex) <a...@cisco.com>; netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] YANG model classification? > On Apr 8, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Andy Bierman <a...@yumaworks.com> wrote: >

Re: [netmod] YANG model classification?

2016-04-07 Thread Alexander Clemm (alex)
I am wondering what purpose the classification really serves. At the end of the day, it seems to me that we are trying to express a model hierarchy, and articulate what the layers in the hierarchy are. A device model is thus at a lower layer than a service model. An implementation of the

Re: [netmod] kw comments on draft-voit-netmod-yang-mount-requirements

2016-04-05 Thread Alexander Clemm (alex)
Hi, Martin, Lada, unfortunately I wasn't able to attend the discussion, but I have one comment regarding the "definition" vs "implementation" distinction. Clearly, peer-mount and alias-mount have a definition component to it. This is why the YANG extensions were defined to define

Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-bjorklund-netmod-structural-mount-02 as draft-ietf-netmod-schema-mount

2016-03-22 Thread Alexander Clemm (alex)
Support I would like to see this go in a direction where this can merge and be clearly complementary with Alias-Mount and Peer-Mount. Thanks --- Alex -Original Message- From: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 9:18 AM To:

[netmod] FYI: New Version Notification for draft-clemm-netmod-mount-04.txt

2016-03-22 Thread Alexander Clemm (alex)
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Re: [netmod] Differentiating the types of Mount

2016-03-19 Thread Alexander Clemm (alex)
Hi, I have one addition on top of Eric's response --- Alex > > Is your alias mount simply a special case of a peer mount where the > peer is local? Or is there more to it? >From a syntax standpoint, peer mount is more general. But underneath, things >get more complicated. For example,

Re: [netmod] yang-next

2016-03-10 Thread Alexander Clemm (alex)
How about calling it YANGNG? Cheers --- Alex From: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Kent Watsen Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:13 PM To: netmod@ietf.org Subject: [netmod] yang-next All, I see too many emails go by where someone has an idea that they’d like to get into a

Re: [netmod] explicit mount

2016-02-24 Thread Alexander Clemm (alex)
Juergen, I think you are correct. Also alias-mount and peer-mount (not just schema-mount) specify mountpoints in the schema. They are not about mounting arbitrary data in arbitrary places, but defining a model with mountpoints declared. --- Alex -Original Message- From: netmod

Re: [netmod] Yang mount / ysdl example use case

2016-02-03 Thread Alexander Clemm (alex)
[mailto:kwat...@juniper.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 11:27 AM To: Robert Wilton -X (rwilton - ENSOFT LIMITED at Cisco) <rwil...@cisco.com> Cc: Lou Berger <lber...@labn.net>; netmod WG <netmod@ietf.org>; Alexander Clemm (alex) <a...@cisco.com>; Eric Voit (evoit) <e

Re: [netmod] Draft clemm netmod mount draft

2016-01-06 Thread Alexander Clemm (alex)
Hi, this was intended as an example. The reason to include the interfaces module is the scenario in which a controller would like to have a model/inventory of the various interfaces across the network. Each network device will have its own instantiation of the interfaces module. Rather than

[netmod] FW: New YANG PubSub drafts for NETCONF, RESTCONF, HTTP/2

2015-10-15 Thread Alexander Clemm (alex)
Forwarding to NETMOD as people there might be interested as well (for those subscribed to both mailers, apologies for the spam...) From: Netconf [mailto:netconf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alexander Clemm (alex) Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 1:57 PM To: netc...@ietf.org Subject: Re

[netmod] anydata interaction with yang-patch and edit config (RE: 6020bis - anydata)

2015-10-05 Thread Alexander Clemm (alex)
Hi, I have two quick questions with regards to anydata - related to the topic of the thread, but concerning a separate topic. (1) How does yang-patch interact with anydata? In particular, could you apply a yang-patch edit to a data node within the anydata? (While the module may not have

Re: [netmod] anydata interaction with yang-patch and edit config

2015-10-05 Thread Alexander Clemm (alex)
Thanks, Martin, this is very clear. (Too bad actually - I could see applications for this.) --- Alex -Original Message- From: Martin Bjorklund [mailto:m...@tail-f.com] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 2:21 PM To: Alexander Clemm (alex) <a...@cisco.com> Cc: j.schoenwael...@

Re: [netmod] tracking new YANG language issues

2015-09-01 Thread Alexander Clemm (alex)
FWIW, I prefer I-D as well. This is a very well established and very well understood process. One advantage is that things are very easy to find (from the documents page). Regardless which way is chosen, having the IETF datatracker page as an entry point from where to find stuff is IMHO a

Re: [netmod] Motivations for Structuring Models

2015-09-01 Thread Alexander Clemm (alex)
Hi Randy, GDMO had some very powerful concepts. The ability to separate definition hierarchy and containment hierarchy is indeed very powerful. In many ways, it was ahead of its time. The problem I see is that in the context of YANG (much simpler), I don't think the same concept of name

Re: [netmod] Y34 - root node

2015-08-27 Thread Alexander Clemm (alex)
to / have dependencies on the mounted data. Regarding naming, do you have an alternative suggestion? Cheers --- Alex -Original Message- From: Martin Bjorklund [mailto:m...@tail-f.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 11:27 PM To: Alexander Clemm (alex) a...@cisco.com Cc: lho...@nic.cz