Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-04-01 Thread Rob Wilton (rwilton)
[As an individual contributor] Hi Andy, Please see [RW] inline From: Andy Bierman Sent: 31 March 2020 17:20 To: Kent Watsen Cc: Rob Wilton (rwilton) ; Martin Björklund ; netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements On Tue, Mar 31

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-04-01 Thread Rob Wilton (rwilton)
[As a contributor] Hi Kent, Please see [RW] inline From: Kent Watsen Sent: 31 March 2020 16:37 To: Rob Wilton (rwilton) Cc: Andy Bierman ; Martin Björklund ; netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements [replying to Reshad as well] Hi

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-04-01 Thread tom petch
From: netmod on behalf of Andy Bierman Sent: 31 March 2020 17:19 Agreeing with Andy that BC/NBC is a bad idea but from a different standpoint. In general the concept sounds great but turning it into an unambiguous, usable by engineers test is mostly impossible as a number of discussions

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-31 Thread Andy Bierman
NBC change but > users should look just in case). > > > > Jason > > > > *From:* Reshad Rahman (rrahman) > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2020 12:04 PM > *To:* Ivory, William ; mbj+i...@4668.se; > Sterne, Jason (Nokia - CA/Ottawa) > *Cc:* netmod@ietf.org > *Subject

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-31 Thread Sterne, Jason (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
indication. Jason From: Andy Bierman Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 6:15 PM To: Sterne, Jason (Nokia - CA/Ottawa) Cc: Martin Björklund ; netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:57 PM Sterne, Jason (Nokia

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-31 Thread Sterne, Jason (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
son (Nokia - CA/Ottawa) Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 12:42 PM To: Reshad Rahman (rrahman) ; Ivory, William ; mbj+i...@4668.se Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject: RE: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements The idea is that following down a chain of YANG versions of a modul

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-31 Thread Sterne, Jason (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
ste...@nokia.com>" mailto:jason.ste...@nokia.com>>, "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" mailto:rrah...@cisco.com>> Cc: "netmod@ietf.org<mailto:netmod@ietf.org>" mailto:netmod@ietf.org>> Subject: Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label stat

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-31 Thread Andy Bierman
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 8:37 AM Kent Watsen wrote: > [replying to Reshad as well] > > Hi Rob, > > My impression is that Semver 2.0.0 works fine if you can always force > clients to move to the latest version of the API whenever any bugfixes are > made to the API (whether they are BC or NBC).

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-31 Thread Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
Ivory, William" Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 3:40 AM To: "mbj+i...@4668.se" , "jason.ste...@nokia.com" , "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" Cc: "netmod@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements Apologies if thi

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-31 Thread Kent Watsen
[replying to Reshad as well] Hi Rob, > My impression is that Semver 2.0.0 works fine if you can always force clients > to move to the latest version of the API whenever any bugfixes are made to > the API (whether they are BC or NBC). This is a natural fit for open source > projects, but not

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-31 Thread Rob Wilton (rwilton)
: NetMod WG Subject: Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:20 AM Martin Björklund mailto:mbj%2bi...@4668.se>> wrote: "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" mailto:rrah...@cisco.com>> wrote: > On 2020-03-28, 4

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-31 Thread Ivory, William
; On Behalf Of Martin Björklund > > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 4:40 PM > > To: rrah...@cisco.com<mailto:rrah...@cisco.com> > > Cc: netmod@ietf.org<mailto:netmod@ietf.org> > > Subject: Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-labe

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-30 Thread Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
On 2020-03-30, 7:22 PM, "Kent Watsen" wrote: > Even though we are debating/discussing whether iETF moduels should use YANG semver (aka modified semver), please note that there is interest from other publishers of YANG modules to use semver or YANG semver. Details? I was

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-30 Thread Kent Watsen
> Even though we are debating/discussing whether iETF moduels should use YANG > semver (aka modified semver), please note that there is interest from other > publishers of YANG modules to use semver or YANG semver. Details? > Regarding your comment below, is it specific to IETF modules or

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-30 Thread Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
e: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements [I’ve scanned the entire thread before circling back to respond to this message] Martin writes: I can reluctantly accept that modified smever is published as Experimental. But that doesn't mean that IETF modules should u

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-30 Thread Kent Watsen
[I’ve scanned the entire thread before circling back to respond to this message] > Martin writes: > I can reluctantly accept that modified smever is published as > Experimental. But that doesn't mean that IETF modules should use it. I assume Martin’s reference to Experimental follows my

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-30 Thread Andy Bierman
) > > Cc: rrah...@cisco.com; netmod@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label > > statements > > > > "Sterne, Jason (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)" wrote: > > > > But it is not true. What happened between 1.0.

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-30 Thread Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
rtin Björklund > > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 4:40 PM > > To: rrah...@cisco.com > > Cc: netmod@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label > > statements > > > > "Reshad Rahman (rrah

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-30 Thread Sterne, Jason (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
Please see inline > -Original Message- > From: Martin Björklund > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 5:51 PM > To: Sterne, Jason (Nokia - CA/Ottawa) > Cc: rrah...@cisco.com; netmod@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label > st

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-30 Thread Martin Björklund
m that point onwards in that > branch. /martin > > > -Original Message- > > From: netmod On Behalf Of Martin Björklund > > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 4:40 PM > > To: rrah...@cisco.com > > Cc: netmod@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG mo

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-30 Thread Sterne, Jason (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
ook up what that means". Jason From: netmod On Behalf Of Andy Bierman Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 4:46 PM To: Reshad Rahman (rrahman) Cc: NetMod WG Subject: Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:26 PM Reshad Rahman (rrahma

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-30 Thread Sterne, Jason (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
Original Message- > From: netmod On Behalf Of Martin Björklund > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 4:40 PM > To: rrah...@cisco.com > Cc: netmod@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label > statements > > "Reshad Rahman (rra

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-30 Thread Andy Bierman
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:26 PM Reshad Rahman (rrahman) wrote: > > > *From: *'Andy Bierman' > *Date: *Monday, March 30, 2020 at 2:51 PM > *To: *Martin Björklund > *Cc: *"Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" , NetMod WG < > netmod@ietf.org> > *Subject: *Re: [ne

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-30 Thread Martin Björklund
"Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" wrote: > > On 2020-03-30, 2:20 PM, "Martin Björklund" wrote: > > "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" wrote: > > On 2020-03-28, 4:41 AM, "Martin Björklund" wrote: > > > > "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > >

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-30 Thread Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
From: 'Andy Bierman' Date: Monday, March 30, 2020 at 2:51 PM To: Martin Björklund Cc: "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" , NetMod WG Subject: Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:20 AM Martin Björklund mailto:mbj%2bi.

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-30 Thread Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
On 2020-03-30, 2:20 PM, "Martin Björklund" wrote: "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" wrote: > On 2020-03-28, 4:41 AM, "Martin Björklund" wrote: > > "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" wrote: > > Hi, > > > > https://github.com/netmod-wg/yang-ver-dt/issues/45 >

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-30 Thread Andy Bierman
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:20 AM Martin Björklund wrote: > "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" wrote: > > On 2020-03-28, 4:41 AM, "Martin Björklund" wrote: > > > > "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > https://github.com/netmod-wg/yang-ver-dt/issues/45 > > > > >

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-30 Thread Martin Björklund
"Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" wrote: > On 2020-03-28, 4:41 AM, "Martin Björklund" wrote: > > "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" wrote: > > Hi, > > > > https://github.com/netmod-wg/yang-ver-dt/issues/45 > > > > o 7.1 > > > > The text says: >

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-30 Thread Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
On 2020-03-28, 4:41 AM, "Martin Björklund" wrote: "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" wrote: > Hi, > > https://github.com/netmod-wg/yang-ver-dt/issues/45 > > o 7.1 > > The text says: > > All IETF YANG modules MUST

Re: [netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements

2020-03-28 Thread Martin Björklund
"Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" wrote: > Hi, > > https://github.com/netmod-wg/yang-ver-dt/issues/45 > > o 7.1 > > The text says: > > All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements for > all > newly published YANG

[netmod] All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements (WAS Re: mbj review of draft-verdt-netmod-yang-module-versioning-01)

2020-03-27 Thread Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
Hi, https://github.com/netmod-wg/yang-ver-dt/issues/45 o 7.1 The text says: All IETF YANG modules MUST include revision-label statements for all newly published YANG modules, and all newly published revisions of existing