Re: [netmod] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-verdt-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-01.txt

2018-11-09 Thread Ebben Aries
On Nov 09 14:42 PM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > The > > point of requirement 1.4 was to say that the DT felt previous versions > > of modules needed to support fixes without bringing in elements from head. > > I think this means that you require branching. > > But is this still the point of the

Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-verdt-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-01.txt

2018-11-09 Thread Robert Wilton
Hi Martin, On 09/11/2018 16:31, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: On Fri, Nov 09, 2018 at 02:37:29PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: I think we need to distinguish between the agreement on the requirement, namely that a server should be able to provide support for an old

Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-verdt-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-01.txt

2018-11-09 Thread Robert Wilton
On 09/11/2018 11:38, Andy Bierman wrote: On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 12:15 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder > wrote: On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 10:42:20PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Juergen Schoenwaelder

Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-verdt-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-01.txt

2018-11-09 Thread Andy Bierman
On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 12:15 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder < j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 10:42:20PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 06:50:58AM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote: > > > > > > > > This is

Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-verdt-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-01.txt

2018-11-09 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Fri, Nov 09, 2018 at 02:37:29PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > I think we need to distinguish between the agreement on the > > requirement, namely that a server should be able to provide support > > for an old and a new definition, and agreement on the solution. > > > > Do you disagree

Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-verdt-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-01.txt

2018-11-09 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 10:42:20PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 06:50:58AM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote: > > > > > > This is what we have today only if modules are updated in legal ways. > > > The 3.1 requirement says this backward

Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-verdt-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-01.txt

2018-11-09 Thread Martin Bjorklund
"Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" wrote: > > > On 2018-11-09, 8:37 PM, "netmod on behalf of Martin Bjorklund" > wrote: > > Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 10:42:20PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > > > On Sat, Oct 27,

Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-verdt-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-01.txt

2018-11-09 Thread Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
On 2018-11-09, 8:37 PM, "netmod on behalf of Martin Bjorklund" wrote: Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 10:42:20PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 06:50:58AM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote: >

Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-verdt-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-01.txt

2018-11-09 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 10:42:20PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 06:50:58AM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote: > > > > > > > > This is what we have today only if modules are updated in legal ways. > > > > The

Re: [netmod] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-verdt-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-01.txt

2018-11-09 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Joe Clarke wrote: > On 11/8/18 16:46, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Hi, > > > > After the session today, it seems to me that one fundamental > > requirement (or non-requirement) is missing. How much branching does > > the solution have to support? The current solution (6020/7950) and (if > > I

Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-verdt-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-01.txt

2018-11-09 Thread Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
From: netmod on behalf of 'Andy Bierman' Date: Friday, November 9, 2018 at 6:38 PM To: Juergen Schoenwaelder , Martin Bjorklund , 'Andy Bierman' , NetMod WG Subject: Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-verdt-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-01.txt On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 12:15 AM,

Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-verdt-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-01.txt

2018-11-09 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Fri, Nov 09, 2018 at 05:31:59PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 09, 2018 at 02:37:29PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > > > > > I think we need to distinguish between the agreement on the > > > > requirement, namely that a server should be

Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-verdt-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-01.txt

2018-11-09 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > On Fri, Nov 09, 2018 at 02:37:29PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > > > I think we need to distinguish between the agreement on the > > > requirement, namely that a server should be able to provide support > > > for an old and a new definition, and agreement on

[netmod] missing YANG versioning requirements

2018-11-09 Thread Andy Bierman
Hi, I think the requirements doc should state that 1) there are many more readers, operators, and client developers than server developers so the solution MUST take into account the numbers of people affected when finding a balance between client and server complexity. 2) if existing protocol

Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-verdt-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-01.txt

2018-11-09 Thread Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
On 2018-11-09, 8:51 PM, "Martin Bjorklund" wrote: "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" wrote: > > > On 2018-11-09, 8:37 PM, "netmod on behalf of Martin Bjorklund" > wrote: > > Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 10:42:20PM +0100, Martin

Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-verdt-netmod-yang-versioning-reqs-01.txt

2018-11-09 Thread Martin Bjorklund
"Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" wrote: > > On 2018-11-09, 8:51 PM, "Martin Bjorklund" wrote: > > "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" wrote: > > > > > > On 2018-11-09, 8:37 PM, "netmod on behalf of Martin Bjorklund" > > wrote: > > > > Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > >